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    6 out of 350... still don't see what's the big deal.

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    Maybe he should keep his cattle in his land, or pay what he owes...

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    That would require him to recognize the federal government has authority over him, which at this time looks unlikely...

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    kookoo indeed...

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    That would require him to recognize the federal government has authority over him, which at this time looks unlikely...
    Oh it's fun to just declare yourself a foreign citizen when it's necessary.
    Maybe the Bundy's need deportation back to planet Zenos or... Syria
    I think they would like Syria being they are partial to places where everyone has their own rules.

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    Oh it's fun to just declare yourself a foreign citizen when it's necessary.
    Maybe the Bundy's need deportation back to planet Zenos or... Syria
    I think they would like Syria being they are partial to places where everyone has their own rules.
    Heck, even a foreign citizen has to abide by federal law while in the US. Good luck telling the IRS they can't tax the money you made in the US because you're French...

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    Heck, even a foreign citizen has to abide by federal law while in the US. Good luck telling the IRS they can't tax the money you made in the US because you're French...
    Agreed. Much better to come here illegally and get yourself free healthcare and education all the while funneling your earnings back to Mexico tax free.

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    If this was really about unpaid grazing fees why was there never a lien put on his property or his cattle?

    Why was the BLM webpage specifically naming Bundy and the Gold Butte land to be used for a mitigation site erased?

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    how about they admitted to killing cattle? Ok, you got me, they didn't admit to killing every cow.
    lol you are so dishonest

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    Agreed. Much better to come here illegally and get yourself free healthcare and education all the while funneling your earnings back to Mexico tax free.
    Bundy probably has illegals tending his cattle tbh.

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    Agreed. Much better to come here illegally and get yourself free healthcare and education all the while funneling your earnings back to Mexico tax free.
    Even illegal immigrants have to get a Tax ID and pay taxes, especially if they hope to ever become citizens. Part of the citizenship requirement is showing 3 years worth of tax returns.

    If this was really about unpaid grazing fees why was there never a lien put on his property or his cattle?

    Why was the BLM webpage specifically naming Bundy and the Gold Butte land to be used for a mitigation site erased?
    How do you enforce a court order on a guy that doesn't think federal courts have authority over him? I mean other than with federal agents and snipers...

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    Um, so you're claiming the pictures are fake? Because that's what you're implying genuis. You're saying the pictures the Bundy's took themselves of their own slaughtered cows and posted to their own social media are fake. The BLM has admitted that they did it. What more of a primary source can you possibly get? Are you serious?

    Well, if this is the level of denial you attribute to facts that go against your preconceived narrative, I know that you're really just disingenuous about having any sort of discussion. This probably extends to your other politics as well. That means I'm calling you a liar.
    I have no idea. I just have a higher standard of proof than facebook photos. Why not link the BLM admission?

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    How do you enforce a court order on a guy that doesn't think federal courts have authority over him? I mean other than with federal agents and snipers...
    thats quite the precedent to set for unpaid fees. Who's next? Plenty of people/corporations who owe more to the government than Bundy.

    What is your comment on the erased BLM page?

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    "How do you enforce a court order on a guy that doesn't think federal courts have authority over him?"

    you "garnish" his bank account.

    The financial mucky mucks recommend "bail in", where stressed, bankrupt, illiquid banks simply take INNOCENT depositors' funds (eg, Cyprus banks taking Russian depositors' funds), so why can't the govt take a GUILTY farmers funds.



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    thats quite the precedent to set for unpaid fees. Who's next? Plenty of people/corporations who owe more to the government than Bundy.

    What is your comment on the erased BLM page?
    So the solution is to claim you are not a part of the US and subject to laws you make up...

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    So the solution is to claim you are not a part of the US and subject to laws you make up...
    How did you get that from my comment?

    Did you agree with the response from the government? Were 200 agents and snipers necessary?
    And why have you, just like el nono, failed to respond to the deleted BLM page? Are you not aware of it?

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    I think we can all agree that Bundy is a whack job, but are you guys honestly defending the militarized BLM reaction?

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    How did you get that from my comment?

    Did you agree with the response from the government? Were 200 agents and snipers necessary?
    And why have you, just like el nono, failed to respond to the deleted BLM page? Are you not aware of it?
    Go back and read the reasoning for his claim.

    I have no idea and either do you as far as the reaction.
    I tend to think the Feds will not show up with an army unless other threats are made. The wack jobs this nut attracted to help his newly formed country are often armed. This has been a long conflict and neither of us know what was said off the record.

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    I think we can all agree that Bundy is a whack job, but are you guys honestly defending the militarized BLM reaction?
    The reaction to show up with an army?

    We have already been over this.

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    a young kid makes a gun with his hand, get suspended.

    somebody points a camera at cops, gets roughed up, camera destroyed

    white paranoid assholes in defense of a scofflaw point guns at US govt employees, get nothing.

    yep, right wingers' paranoid fantasies of govt persecution are really accurate.

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    I never got the fascination of hardcore nanny state opponents with the supposed benevolence of state governance. What a laugh. In this day and age, The state is generally far less hands off, more meddlesome, intrusive and way more aggressive than the federal government. It's the state saying you can't do super sized sodas. It's the state that is outlawing gay marriage. It's the state that is raising excise taxes. It's the state banning abortion. It's the state saying you can or cannot smoke pot. Its's the state saying you can't smoke in restaurants.. It's the state that you fear when your restaurant is due for inspection. It's the state inspecting your health care facilities, your factory, your balls. And 99% of the time! it's the state finning you when you suck. The state is governance on steroids. For the average person, It is almost a guarantee that the state is interfering with and directly affecting your life in ways that make the federal government nearly invisible by comparison.

    The state is up your ass six ways till Sunday and it will turn you or your business upside down and take a shiny penny straight out of your ass long before the federal government even realizes there's a problem. Case in point, bundy has been ing over the Feds fir decades. Try not paying your state taxes or fees. Let me know how it works out. Lol They'll be up your ass in a NY minute. The state is the nanny that the federal government only wishes it could be.

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    Which is why I argued for state intervention in the early stages of this conflict...aside frim the point that Bundy was receptive to state oversight vs Fed.

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    I never got the fascination of hardcore nanny state opponents with the supposed benevolence of state governance. What a laugh. In this day and age, The state is generally far less hands off, more meddlesome, intrusive and way more aggressive than the federal government. It's the state saying you can't do super sized sodas. It's the state that is outlawing gay marriage. It's the state that is raising excise taxes. It's the state banning abortion. It's the state saying you can or cannot smoke pot. Its's the state saying you can't smoke in restaurants.. It's the state that you fear when your restaurant is due for inspection. It's the state inspecting your health care facilities, your factory, your balls. And 99% of the time! it's the state finning you when you suck. The state is governance on steroids. For the average person, It is almost a guarantee that the state is interfering with and directly affecting your life in ways that make the federal government nearly invisible by comparison.

    The state is up your ass six ways till Sunday and it will turn you or your business upside down and take a shiny penny straight out of your ass long before the federal government even realizes there's a problem. Case in point, bundy has been ing over the Feds fir decades. Try not paying your state taxes or fees. Let me know how it works out. Lol They'll be up your ass in a NY minute. The state is the nanny that the federal government only wishes it could be.
    TB FINALLY has something to say! yippee

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    a young kid makes a gun with his hand, get suspended.

    somebody points a camera at cops, gets roughed up, camera destroyed

    white paranoid assholes in defense of a scofflaw point guns at US govt employees, get nothing.

    yep, right wingers' paranoid fantasies of govt persecution are really accurate.
    Who pointed a gun at a government employee?

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    Who pointed a gun at a government employee?
    how about this guy, widely photographed:


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