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Patty.
http://www.poundingtherock.com/2014/...ame-2-maverick
Nice breakdown of the turnovers in Game 2, but this little tidbit caught my attention:
As I typed his name just now I thought, 'Marco has clearly been the worst player in the series.' I then thought, 'I bet he's been the worst player in the playoffs.' Turns out, I was correct. For players averaging more than 20 mpg, Marco has the worst net rating in the playoffs at a whopping -43.7, OffRtg of 88.2 and DefRtg of 131.8. Funny enough, Gary Neal comes in second to last place with a net rating of -39. So don't miss Gary too much. To be fair, I thought I'd decrease the minutes played constraint to greater than 15 instead of 20. Two players shot ahead of Marco: Boris at -52.8 and Patty at -45. I'm tired of this game. I'm going to stop playing.
Patty.
Marco was the Spurs big addition last offseason.
Spurs fans (people in general actually) are so reactionary... like a school of baitfish. One flash and they freak. Marco goes off, he's a god. Marco does poorly, it's "I told you so".
^Somewhat agree - but the argument typically has been is he an upgrade over Neal and many debated that fact well before he did anything in a Spurs uniform. Not only regular season, but playoffs. But it's just two games in, so I digress.
The bench has been a huge disappointment. The starters have struggled at times but the bench have been dismal.
Sad read right there. I'm disappointed in Diaw most of all tbh. I didn't expect much out of Belinelli having seen him play in Chicago firsthand recently, and Mills I mean nice regular season player but I didn't expect more than a good game or two each series out of him, and otherwise mediocre to performances.
Diaw is supposed to be reliable though. At least he has been since we got him. Hope he and Green can step it up a bit for us since I know they're capable. Leonard needs to stop sucking too. Even frickin Manu is playing well. No excuses for anyone else not getting it done.
Its just 2 games. Hold your effing horses, cliffjumpers. The Spurs aren't 0-2. THey are 1-1.
Always thought it was a bad idea to waste the MLE on Ayres and Marco. One's a D-League level big man and the other's a chucker that belongs on lottery teams.
The thing about that article, to me, was that it really never answered its own question. Who's to blame?
THE ENTIRE BLANKING TEAM IS TO BLAME.
22 turnovers. The most any one person had was 6, and after that it went down to 3 per person…it was just almost every person though.
No one played well. Yes Manu hit shots, but so did most everyone else not named Diaw or Mill or Bellinelli. And Manu's hot hand was negated somewhat by him being the one guy with almost a third of the team's turnovers all by himself.
Defining what the argument is doesn't mean anything in regards to people playing pollyanna.
Dallas has game-planned us the same way OKC has been doing, taking away the role players, and giving Parker/Duncan all the shots they want. The onus is on them to repeat their game 1 performances, and they'll have those shots all day long.
To be fair though in the playoffs it is your starters that you lean on the most and should be the ones who either win it or loose it or you.
I though Tiago played well.
The difference is this strategy shouldn't work as well as it does when OKC does it since they lack any defensive talent. They don't have the athletes nor the defensive IQ to switch and still close out to shooters like OKC does against SA. Spurs are just playing poorly overall and need to make some of the stated adjustments.
Seriously? People still freaking out about a 1-1 series? Grow a pair and chill the out. Once they start playing team basketball you're all gonna be on their nuts again.
You must be new around here...Seriously? People still freaking out about a 1-1 series? Grow a pair and chill the out. Once they start playing team basketball you're all gonna be on their nuts again.
Spurs offense is reliant on too many players. During the 19 game win streak all sorts of players were chipping in 10-12 points here and there. So now that other teams have figured out how to disrupt that the Spurs lose because they lack the iso talent to win games. We won Game 1 because Tim went old school and even though Manu gave great effort in Game 2 it just wasn't enough. Turnovers are part of the Mavs game plan. Sure we may not have 24 again but I still expect us to have a significant amount. Tbh.
Brought this up after game 1, tbh... Gino becomes the focus of the offense simply because a lot of other guys don't show up... and he's not that player anymore.
He's been playing great regardless in this series, but if Pop plans to keep going deep into the bench, some of those guys are going to have to show up, make shots and make plays.
Ultimately, I didn't think we had the focus and intensity out there in game 2. We played "hard" for about 3 mins at the end of the 2nd quarter, when we made that 10-0 run.
Even in game 1, it was only there for short spurts. Not taking anything away from Carlisle game-planning, which is excellent, but the focus/effort/fight/intensity falls entirely on the Spurs.
The entire team.
Is there any correlation with us being a high assist team to turnovers? Unlike teams with a dominant scorer who can get their own shot the Spurs have to pass the ball ball multiple times in order to get a good shot. (Most of the time) Making the possibility of a turnover much more likely. Any thoughts from people with knowledge of the game? (I'm fairly new to basketball)
Guessing it would be assist to turnover ratio?
Maybe, I'd have to look into it, but the Warriors were the #1 team in isolation plays this season and they're turning it over more than anybody else in the playoffs so far IIRC..
The Mavs were 6th worst in creating turnover this year, I think game 2 was more of an anomaly, tbh..if it occurs again in game 3, then it should be a concern..
true, many of our turnovers were unforced and just dumb, sloppy plays. hopefully this is a wake up call, rather than a sign of things to come. based on what we've seen this season, its more likely to be the former
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