Bundy ranch situation in Nevada

[xrayzebra]

But he's been living off the government for 40 years.

You think so, then why don't you go out there and make a living off the government like he has and his family before him. Easy money! Just look out for the turtles.

[boutons_deux]

So why do some see him as an Uncle Tom? Shouldn't Cosby's message be every bit as meaningful as MLK's?

ask "some" youself.

I suppose a lot of n!gg@s thought it was easy/resented multi-millionaire Crosby for dictating to poor blacks. He was really pissed that n!gg@s resented highschool blacks for hitting the books, making grades, getting diplomas as "acting white"

yes, Crosby's message was a meaningful as MLK's

[Wild Cobra]

But he's been living off the government for 40 years.

That's a matter of perception. There is so much misinformation on this topic, I don't know what to believe. I do believe he has been allowed to graze his cattle for free for some time, then someone changed the rules on him. If so, it's probably something that should have been grand-fathered. Even if he owes grazing fees, it isn't the same as being given "other people's money." I'm sure you are intelligent enough to see the difference.

Please don't take yourself down to Bouton's level.

[angrydude]

Do you personally think it's racist?

Yes or no.

Depends on whose saying it and in what context.

Old people say stupid all the time.

[Wild Cobra]

Depends on whose saying it and in what context.

Old people say stupid all the time.

Old people had a completely different vocabulary growing up.

Wasn't it the in thing to be gay in the 20's?

[monosylab1k]

as slaves, the blacks had a better family unit than today.

[monosylab1k]

So why do some see him as an Uncle Tom? Shouldn't Cosby's message be every bit as meaningful as MLK's?

Show me the part where Bill Cosby thinks black people are better off as slaves.

[ChumpDumper]

That's a matter of perception. There is so much misinformation on this topic, I don't know what to believe. I do believe he has been allowed to graze his cattle for free for some time, then someone changed the rules on him. If so, it's probably something that should have been grand-fathered. Even if he owes grazing fees, it isn't the same as being given "other people's money." I'm sure you are intelligent enough to see the difference.

Please don't take yourself down to Bouton's level.

Actually paying grazing fees is accepting a substantial federal subsidy.

He was living off subsidies for decades before he stopped paying.

[ChumpDumper]

Depends on whose saying it and in what context.

Old people say stupid all the time.

Cop out.

Thanks, Mr. Hannity.

[angrydude]

Is it racist to say blacks are still slaves?

[Capt Bringdown]

Another right-wing clown show intended to make the Democrats appear to be sensible. The self-congratulation on the "progressive" side is so thick you could cut it with a chain saw.
Meanwhile, Obama normalizes Plutocratic/Hegomonic policies across the board and the Overton window moves inexorably rightward, without any substantive or meaningful opposition.

[Wild Cobra]

Maybe you should look up some facts. The census data goes back to 1880, and you will find far more nuclear family units back then. Though going as far a slavery years would be hard to claim certainty on, I will assume the number of nuclear families in all the 1800 will be similar to the 1880 census data. The nuclear families started eroding in the 1960's, when social programs made it better to be a single mother than have a man expected to work.

[Wild Cobra]

Actually paying grazing fees is accepting a substantial federal subsidy.

He was living off subsidies for decades before he stopped paying.

We disagree on the definition of "subsidy." We have discussed that before. You lose.

[ChumpDumper]

We disagree on the definition of "subsidy." We have discussed that before. You lose.

The cost of grazing is subsidized by the federal government.

By definition, that is a subsidy.

Post your definition.

[ChumpDumper]

Maybe you should look up some facts. The census data goes back to 1880, and you will find far more nuclear family units back then. Though going as far a slavery years would be hard to claim certainty on, I will assume the number of nuclear families in all the 1800 will be similar to the 1880 census data. The nuclear families started eroding in the 1960's, when social programs made it better to be a single mother than have a man expected to work.

So you are saying white people should be enslaved to lower the divorce rate.

[angrydude]

Pretty sure the breakup of the black family has more to do with the number of black males in prison than anything else.

If there was ever a better example of it, our criminal justice system works is ins utionally racist. Now there's a legitimate complaint of racism if there ever was one.

[monosylab1k]

So you are saying white people should be enslaved to lower the divorce rate.

it only makes sense. slavery = family stability > freedom. it's basic math.

[Wild Cobra]

So you are saying white people should be enslaved to lower the divorce rate.

Not at all. There is no single reason these days, but a single mother is more likely to get good government handouts than a married couple with the man being expected to work, or at least one of the two expected to work. In the single parent household, it is acceptable to claim "I can't work because of the kids." This is why our social welfare system destroys the family unit.

These statistics in general follow income cir stances rather than race. It's just also a fact that a larger percentage of blacks fall into such income situations.

[Wild Cobra]

it only makes sense. slavery = family stability > freedom. it's basic math.

Shouldn't that text be in blue?

[monosylab1k]

Not at all. There is no single reason these days, but a single mother is more likely to get good government handouts than a married couple with the man being expected to work, or at least one of the two expected to work. In the single parent household, it is acceptable to claim "I can't work because of the kids." This is why our social welfare system destroys the family unit.

These statistics in general follow income cir stances rather than race. It's just also a fact that a larger percentage of blacks fall into such income situations.

So naturally it's more beneficial to take away all their money and rights, sell them to a plantation owner, and force them to live under the same roof. Nuclear family reunited, problem solved. You're welcome, Negroes!

[Wild Cobra]

So naturally it's more beneficial to take away all their money and rights, sell them to a plantation owner, and force them to live under the same roof. Nuclear family reunited, problem solved. You're welcome, Negroes!

Wow...

What type of strawman are you trying to build?

[baseline bum]

Obvious from the post that we have many experts here on the breeding and selection of blacks as slaves. Of course all of the are from the left. Ought to tell people something.

Not a word about the conditions that have been created by these same leftest that have destroyed the families of black people and created a group of young blacks that think nothing of selling drugs or shooting up the neighborhood, while the leftest who run these cities do little or nothing to make the neighborhoods safe or try to persuade the young people to stay in school and further their education. What a waste of humanity.

So far all I have read is what Bundy has said was taken out of context. I have no idea how the subject was ever brought up, do any of you know? And spare me the sarcastic remarks I am asking a legitimate question.

War on drugs is a leftist policy?

[boutons_deux]

[TheSanityAnnex]

“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro ... because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”




If you replace the word negro with black guy, and replace the word cotton with work, it doesn't sound that racist. He's an old time rancher, I don't expect him to be eloquent, although he should have chosen his words better to get his point across, which is blacks are now just enslaved by the government.

[boutons_deux]

"I don't expect him to be eloquent"

I heard him "speak" last night, he's just barely capable.

He used the words he thinks with, that he hears and reads from the racists he runs with.