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I read on ESPN that the Eagles now have the best running back tantum in the league in McCoy and Sproles. Who sees that duo better than Williams/Stewart at Carolina? Keep in mind we aren't talking a fullback with a tail back any longer. So there goes all this...
Larry Csonka/Mercury Morris Dolphins
Matt Snell/Emerson Boozer Jets
Hewritt Dixon/Clem Daneils Raiders
Curtis McClinton/Abner Haynes Chiefs
Franco Harris/Rocky Bliear Steelers
Jim Taylor/Paul Hornung Packers
Mile Alstott/Warrick Dunn Buc's
Keith Lincoln/Paul Lowe Chargers
Kevin Mack/Ernest Byner Browns
Jim Brown/Bobby Mitc Browns
The Rams once going with two fullback types in "Deacon" Dan Towler and Paul "Tank" Younger, way back when. Both small college stars.
....stuff.
As far as two running backs sharing the duties goes...
Roger Craig/Wendell Tyler Niners
Herschel Walker/Tony Dorsett Cowboys
Bo Jackson/Marcus Allen Raiders
Bass/"Jaquar" Jon Arnett Rams
Just think the Niners once had future Hall of Famers, Joe "The Jet" Perry, Hugh "The King" McElhenny and fullback John Henry Johnson all there together, wow!
Sproles isn't going to be running inside or running all that much to begin with. He'll be a situation/spot player more of a third down/out in space guy. And the defense knows that. I don't see him as a real running back threat like a Shady McCoy who does it all.
Last edited by Avante; 04-28-2014 at 09:26 PM.
Rape/Pedophilia
Dude, only a dumb kid would believe the military is a bunch of rapists/pedos. You really this stupid? Do you know anything at all about that situation?
Poor little kid.
exactly.
Everytime you post it becomes more obvious you are a total idiot.
Dude, nobody wants to read your about that here, ok? This is a football talk board, don't you understand that? So why act ing re ed?
I can talk football little guy not that has no place here at all.
Dude, what is your problem anyway?
I'm trying to talk running back duos here, not sailors and hookers some 40 some odd years ago, wow!
This thread massively fails for not having DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart.
Why not try actually reading it, ok?
Alstott and Dunn? Come on.
Was just kidding.
That duo had so much potential. It is so weird seeing Panthers fans hate them because of their contracts. Cam takes a lot of rushes from them.. sometimes DeAngelo has 2 carries in a game. Stewart is always hurt, but he still goes hard when he plays.
Do just a tab bit of research then tell me what ya find. Keep in mind I was using them as a fullback with tailback combo.
Last edited by Avante; 04-28-2014 at 08:55 PM.
I saw Stewart play many times while he was at Oregon, what a stud! The two should have been used up, run run and run some more.
Sure, in their very best year together -- 1999 -- they combined for 2393 yards from scrimmage and 11 TDs; it was the only year in their time together that both guys got to 1,000 yards or more from scrimmage. Yet, in the same year, Marshall Faulk outgained them (2429) by himself and scored more touchdowns than they did. So, even in their very best season, the two of them put up combined numbers that fell short of the numbers that one guy put up. I'll grant you that Faulk had an exceptional season in yards from scrimmage in 1999, but still, you'd think that one of the greatest backfield tandems in NFL history (with those guys starting 31 of 32 total games for them) would have at least outgained every individual ballcarrier in the league during its best season.
Over the course of the 5 years that Alstott and Dunn played together, they collectively averaged about 2200 yards from scrimmage (a combined number that wouldn't crack the top 20 of all-time yards from scrimmage seasons by individuals) and, in their best years, scored 17 times (1997 and 2001), which would tie them for 53rd in individual single-season scores. In their best year relative to the league, they finished 4th in rushing offense (1998); in their 5th year together, the great Alstott/Dunn backfield led the Bucs to a 30th place finish in a 32 team league in rushing offense. In the other years, they finished basically in the middle of the pack -- 11th in 1997; 15th in 1999; 9th in 2000.
I may be a tough judge, but it's hard to sell me on the idea that one of the greatest backfields of all-time could only muster a 4th place finish in rushing offense in their best year. And it's not like either of those guys were incredibly prolific catching the ball out of the backfield; Dunn's best receiving year was 1999, when he had almost 600 yards (to go along with his slightly more than 600 rushing yards) and Alstott's was the same year with 239 receiving yards.
In that time, their teams won exactly two playoff games -- a wildcard win over Detroit at home in 1997 and a divisional round win over Washington at home in 1999. They missed the playoffs twice in those 5 years together.
They were a good backfield. They played on a team with an incredible defense. Their team won lots of games because the defense was historically special, not because the backfield was historically pretty good.
I'm not talking about the Buc's at all, ok?
A fullback is there to get the tough yards, block, catch a few passes. In that role Alstott was a six time pro bowler. A running back is there to break a few runs, he's the speed, in that role Dunn had three Buc seasons with over 950 yards rushing and he was also a pro bowler. When it came to the perfect blend of power and speed there it was. Alstott a bull with Dunn a Florida State sprinter.
How many times have we seen a fullback rush for over 900 yards in a season and his running back a 1000 yard rusher?
Here they ranked the top 50 running back duos of all time. Alstott and Dunn ranked number 9.
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Stats as a tandem (1997-2001)
Warrick Dunn: 4,200 rush yards, 2,374 receiving yards and 26 touchdowns
Mike Alstott: 3,605 rush yards and 43 touchdowns
This was the first real thunder and lightning backfield of the new millennium. Talk about two different players existing together and dominating the trenches. This is what you got when you added Mike Alstott and Warrick Dunn to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Alstott, Purdue's all-time leading rusher, was selected by a struggling Tampa Bay franchise that had not had a winning season since 1981 in the second round of the 1996 draft. One year later, it would find lightning in the form of Warrick Dunn in the first round.
Well, the rest was history.
Those old 60's Packers had Jim Taylor at fullback he was the second best runner in the league behind Jim Brown, his "half back" was Paul "The Golden Boy" Hornung who could do it all, both are in the Hall of Fame. That combo is widely considered the best fullback/running back duo ever. Yep, two slow white guys.
Last edited by Avante; 04-28-2014 at 09:58 PM.
alstott ran a 4.66 in college. i wouldn't exactly call that slow for his size.
Ricky Watters & Williams Floyd
Where did I say anything about Alstotts speed?
John Riggins was a Kansas State 100 yard champ while in high school. Big Herschel Walker, Bo Jackson had great speed. Big Curtis ey was world ranked in the 100m while at Texas A8M.
Last edited by Avante; 04-29-2014 at 09:02 PM.
Demarco Murray/Tashard Choice Cowboys
Green-Ellis & Bernard
The Cowboys would be...
Emmitt Smith/Darly Johnston....when it comes to a fullback with a running back
Tont Dorsett/Herschel Walker...when it comes to sharing the duties running backs.
Last edited by Avante; 05-01-2014 at 11:38 PM.
In Tecmo I you can run Bo Jackson around forever. Run him within a yard of scoring them turn him around and run him all the way to his one then turn him around and......until you simply get bored with it.
As everyone knows he only had one play so on defense you always defended his one play, which stopped him cold.
One great combo I ;d forgoten was an old Bears duo of fullback Rick Casares a 1000 yard rusher out of U of Miami and swift.exciting Willie Galimore a 9.6 sprinter while at Florida A&M. Here we had the perfect thunder n' lightnin' tantum.
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