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Refs usually don't call anything in those sequences unless it's a vicious foul. Not surprised
I haven't seen any mention of this yet but we were fortunate for a no-call on Dallas' last layup attempt. Diaw clearly hit Ellis' head on the layup. , Ellis didn't even complain about it and neither has anyone else. I'll take it and there were probably no-calls in Dallas' favor but not at such a crucial juncture in the game.
Refs usually don't call anything in those sequences unless it's a vicious foul. Not surprised
Ellis has been:
1) Traveling on almost every start of a drive
2) Getting moving screens from Dalembert on the regular
3) Bailed out with iffy whistle every time he barrels aimlessly towards the rim
The Spurs have gotten their share of calls too, so I won't beef about the refs. But some of the above have been happening almost all series.
they gave Ellis that and 1 when it could've very easily been a charge like they've called on Kawhi several times. I think that came at an equally crucial moment.
Not to mention he travels a lot which they've called on Patty/Diaw but not him. I've seen Pop yelling at the officials telling them to call it on the other end too.
that dummy already got a freebie when he hit Manu on the And 1, not to mention his And 1 against Boris in Game 3. Dejuan was allowed to hack Duncan throughout the 4th, Dalembert got away with moving screens that KG would be jealous of, and Dirk had numerous offensive fouls that weren't called..... the Mavs tbh....
Very true.
Wah Wah Wah.
Dirk fouled Manu on one of those early drives to the left side of the rim, with a reach in slap across the forearm and there was no call, but on the ensuing possession Diaw gets called for a touch foul on Dirk when Diaw never made contact. Refs watch reactions, they don't have the benefit of replay on fouls like we do. If a player reacts in a way that verifies contact, often it will be called, unless that player does it on every trip down the floor.
With all the flopping and flailing of arms it's amazing any calls are made correctly the 1st time.
lol
I think that charge on Leonard was more about the elbow than the body contact. Kawhi doesn't need to swing through like that in that situation. It was a good defensive stance by Ellis but Leonard could have side stepped him. He started his eurostep move too far out.
Shot almost went in, too
IIRC, that foul on Dirk would have been his 5th, too..
And ya, NBA refs are amazingly good, tbh, despite the many poor performances from them..
Yeah I'm seeing more and more what a dirty dirk is with the shoving and the elbows.
You're not going to get anywhere in the post season playing soft. Dirk is a class act, he just knows where he's at and has learned he has to behave that way in order to gain an advantage.
I say it balances out that phantom foul on Diaw that let Ellis tie game 3 at 102. The replay showed no contact at all.
Totally agree I think Leonard needs to incorporate that in his game, or the spin move a la TP. But I also think Manu caught an elbow to the face on that play too, which is why I brought up that comparison.
If you are talking about the foul on Manu, that was most definitely not a charge.
But Manu was moving. Refs seem to ignore who initiates the contact as long as a player with the ball is moving toward the rim. The foul on Diaw in the same situation last game was wrong, Diaw just held his ground and did not reach, and Ellis uses his elbow to create space and initiated the contact, but Diaw gets called for a foul. It's impossible to defend if you cannot move to the rim with the guy who's penetrating.
Ellis was the beneficiary of two and 1 plays in games 3 and 4 in the close-out minutes of the game. Manu had similar drives with the same contact on each play prior to Ellis and did not get the calls. I can live with a missed call in that situation.
Yeah but that's illegal gain of advantage. Watch the replay, he was showing Tiago many times, elbowed others etc. There is a difference between playing hard and playing dirty.
It's a thin line and players knowingly cross it and force the officials to make the call. Sometimes that's the difference in the game between two teams, which one brings more "nasty", as Pop likes to call it.
I know, I know, but if it was somebody else doing it, not Dirk, at least one foul would be called 100%.
several bogus calls against splitter last night. he was having a great game despite the foul trouble.
And he traveled.
With all due respect valued contributor:
Brendan Wright held Timmy down with his left while showing block attempt with his right in a previous game...
Ellis travels and charges more than he's called. As mentioned, Patty sure gets called for it, et al.
Vince Carter maybe got a couple extra tenths of a second on his three in game three, and possibly traveled, as well.
I think Dallas is getting MORE than their fair share of calls.
Fisher absolutely absolutely got a couple extra tenths of a second.
http://thenullhypodermic.blogspot.co...-shot.html?m=1
And, Jordan pushed off on Russell's hip so hard he pushed him out of the play, off-balance, and stumbling to the ground..."veteran move" I think Chris Webber would call it. Of course, the rule book calls it a foul.
With all the no call fouls that the Spurs endure while getting called for ticky tack stuff, the disparity in the game in question, specifically, the man-handling of every Spurs ball-handler vs. the Thunder in our four losses in a row in their previous playoff meeting, the list goes on and on. This no-call you speak of doesn't probably even make the top 1000 list of most egregious no calls in basketball, evidenced by the fact that Ellis even chalked it up to "incidental contact" by way of his reaction, or lack thereof, as well the lack from almost every other possible source. If we play it up, and get Mavs fans in a frothy boil over it, it might break top 500. Just my guess.
And, in games that are decided with such small margin, every call at every moment during the game has great importance, only nostalgia makes the ones at the end seem more relevant. Heck, even games decided by large margins can be swayed toward those large margins with no calls mid-game...stopping runs, swinging momentum, fostering confidence in a team's being able to guard more "aggressively" (read:illegally) with no fear of penalty...
I don't think this no-call was out of the ordinary or will have any sort of shelf-life.
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