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    I never said it would be "required" in any cir stances just that I have compassion for those that choose it in some cir stances.
    you said "I'm 100% opposed to the 99.9% of abortions that do not fall into one of those categories."

    Again, if you, who are making a hard stance against it, are still leaving the door open, even at less than 1%, then how do you figure it will be history some day?

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    you said "I'm 100% opposed to the 99.9% of abortions that do not fall into one of those categories."

    Again, if you, who are making a hard stance against it, are still leaving the door open, even at less than 1%, then how do you figure it will be history some day?
    Like Spurminator, I believe it will be much easier to prevent pregnancy in the future and the less than 1% of duress abortions will be unecessary because those that face the problem will have a way of preventing the pregnancy to begin with.

    I'm not as equally convinced the s of America will avail themselves of the same advances and will, even after the problem is solved, be seeking abortions after the time when such advances would have been effective.

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    Like Spurminator, I believe it will be much easier to prevent pregnancy in the future and the less than 1% of duress abortions will be unecessary because those that face the problem will have a way of preventing the pregnancy to begin with.

    I'm not as equally convinced the s of America will avail themselves of the same advances and will, even after the problem is solved, be seeking abortions after the time when such advances would have been effective.
    So he shouldn't have included abortion in his list according to you.

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    more on the practical failure. Oklahoma botched the execution of Clayton Lockett:

    http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/state...7a43b2370.html

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    if u dont adapt to society, why should society adapt to you?

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    It's only a practical failure because it takes too long to implement.

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    if u dont adapt to society, why should society adapt to you?
    we have standards in our foundational political compact. procedures like this flaut them.

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    (8th Amendment, I'm looking in your direction)

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    Study: 4.1% of death sentences bogus





    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...28Daily+Kos%29

    but dubya swears the 500+ that TX executed on his watch were 100% guilty.


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    So?

    Just carry out the ones where their is absolute certainty of guilt.

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    So?

    Just carry out the ones where their is absolute certainty of guilt.
    smh

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    So?

    Just carry out the ones where their is absolute certainty of guilt.
    Cops lie, prosecutors hide evidence, judges don't care, jurors don't want to be there.

    LOL..........good luck.

    I don't trust the state enough to let it execute anybody.

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    UAS! UAS! UAS!

    Just carry out the ones where their is absolute certainty of guilt.
    How do you propose that be done?

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    So?

    Just carry out the ones where their is absolute certainty of guilt.
    Yep, we should definitely stop all the "we aren't sure but fry him just in case" executions....

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    death penalty isn't necessary imo. switch our justice system from one of privately owned slave complexes to a rehabilitation role, legalize substances that don't pose danger to others, and use all that extra freed space to lock up these guys life without parole. done and dusted.

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    Now maybe it’s the fact that Dow is supposedly a two-time offender—over a 20-year career representing scores of clients, in the last-minute chaos of capital litigation—that led to an unprecedented and extreme sanction for a trivial administrative mistake. Or maybe it’s the history of public feuding and recriminations between the very outspoken Dow and the CCA that led to this bizarre punishment. But no matter the reason, it comes down to this: When one Texas lawyer repeatedly files late and his clients die, he is deemed competent and rewarded with yet more defense work. When another Texas lawyer files late, he’s ineligible to represent his clients for a full year. It could lead Kafka to swallow his own tongue.
    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...ts.single.html

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    Yep, we should definitely stop all the "we aren't sure but fry him just in case" executions....
    Lol

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    "absolute certainty of guilt"

    with long-term, widespread corrupt cops and prosecutors, that just ain't possible.



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    the CCA hates David Dow for being a good lawyer and shaming Sharon Keller, who frankly deserved it.

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    "conduct unbecoming a public servant"

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    Texas Bar seeks punishment for prosecutor in death penalty conviction

    The State Bar of Texas has sought punishment for the prosecutor in a 1992 trial who is suspected of withholding evidence that could have cleared a man convicted of setting a fire that killed his three daughters and was later executed.

    Death penalty opponents have said Texas may have executed an innocent man when it sent Cameron Todd Willingham to the death chamber in 2004 after he was convicted of murder in the 1991 house fire, largely on the testimony of a prison informant who told a jury that Willingham had confessed to the crime.


    The Texas Bar Association filed a pe ion this month with a district court to discipline the prosecutor in the case, John Jackson, who could be disbarred.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...e=domesticNews

    "could be disbarred"? he committed murder, so execute him



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    Texas Bar seeks punishment for prosecutor in death penalty conviction

    The State Bar of Texas has sought punishment for the prosecutor in a 1992 trial who is suspected of withholding evidence that could have cleared a man convicted of setting a fire that killed his three daughters and was later executed.

    Death penalty opponents have said Texas may have executed an innocent man when it sent Cameron Todd Willingham to the death chamber in 2004 after he was convicted of murder in the 1991 house fire, largely on the testimony of a prison informant who told a jury that Willingham had confessed to the crime.


    The Texas Bar Association filed a pe ion this month with a district court to discipline the prosecutor in the case, John Jackson, who could be disbarred.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...e=domesticNews

    "could be disbarred"? he committed murder, so execute him


    ...

    Texas is so re ed.

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    Texas Bar seeks punishment for prosecutor in death penalty conviction

    The State Bar of Texas has sought punishment for the prosecutor in a 1992 trial who is suspected of withholding evidence that could have cleared a man convicted of setting a fire that killed his three daughters and was later executed.

    Death penalty opponents have said Texas may have executed an innocent man when it sent Cameron Todd Willingham to the death chamber in 2004 after he was convicted of murder in the 1991 house fire, largely on the testimony of a prison informant who told a jury that Willingham had confessed to the crime.


    The Texas Bar Association filed a pe ion this month with a district court to discipline the prosecutor in the case, John Jackson, who could be disbarred.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...e=domesticNews

    "could be disbarred"? he committed murder, so execute him


    So?

    Just carry out the ones where their is absolute certainty of guilt.

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