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    If that's legit then I don't see anything that clearly allows the NBA to terminate his ownership. The only part that might apply is...



    I guess lawyers can make any argument but it doesn't seem to me that Sterling "willfully" did anything.
    With Silver levying the 2.5 million fine it seems to point that Sterling didn't in fact violate anything in the cons ution or by-laws. I think Silver overplayed his hand.

    From earlier:

    It appears the 2.5 million came from article 24, not a combination of fines. And if so, it would also appear Silver is basically admitting Sterling's actions did not in fact violate the cons ution and by-laws. And if this is true than termination also does not fall under article 24, which Silver seems to have invoked.


    "(l) The Commissioner shall, wherever there is a rule for which no penalty is specifically fixed for violation thereof, have the authority to fix such penalty as in the Commissioner’s judgment shall be in the best interests of the Association. Where a situation arises which is not covered in the Cons ution and By-Laws, the Commissioner shall have the authority to make such decision, including the imposition of a penalty, as in his judgment shall be in the best interests of the Association. The penalty that may be assessed under the preceding two sentences may include, without limitation, a fine, suspension, and/or the forfeiture or assignment of draft choices. No monetary penalty fixed under this provision shall exceed $2,500,000."

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    You bet I listened to snippets.

    I listened to the whole thing 3 times in amazement that a man as seemingly daft as Sterling could make so much money.

    Can I get some more juice for you honey?
    The black Jews in Israel are treated like dogs...WTF?
    a talent for making money implies no other talents or smarts.

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    a talent for making money implies no other talents or smarts.
    Seriously Boo?

    You may hate Sterling but the dude didn't inherit a penny, started out dirt ass poor, and built a multi billion dollar business empire. Somewhere in there hard work and smarts was involved. He may be an 80 year old senile now but I'm pretty sure there was a little more involved than a "talent".

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    Could SpursTalk pool it's money and buy the Clippers?

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    Could SpursTalk pool it's money and buy the Clippers?
    Pool our money...

    We could be 0.001% majority owners.

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    With Silver levying the 2.5 million fine it seems to point that Sterling didn't in fact violate anything in the cons ution or by-laws. I think Silver overplayed his hand.

    From earlier:

    It appears the 2.5 million came from article 24, not a combination of fines. And if so, it would also appear Silver is basically admitting Sterling's actions did not in fact violate the cons ution and by-laws. And if this is true than termination also does not fall under article 24, which Silver seems to have invoked.


    "(l) The Commissioner shall, wherever there is a rule for which no penalty is specifically fixed for violation thereof, have the authority to fix such penalty as in the Commissioner’s judgment shall be in the best interests of the Association. Where a situation arises which is not covered in the Cons ution and By-Laws, the Commissioner shall have the authority to make such decision, including the imposition of a penalty, as in his judgment shall be in the best interests of the Association. The penalty that may be assessed under the preceding two sentences may include, without limitation, a fine, suspension, and/or the forfeiture or assignment of draft choices. No monetary penalty fixed under this provision shall exceed $2,500,000."
    whats wrong with the nba cons ution, lol doesnt state what is a owners obligations or going into more detail

    seems live silver overstep his role here and made up laws on the day

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    I can't see Silver blindly walking in and just spewing a decision.
    You guys don't think the NBA has lawyers that advised him?

    If they went beyond I would think they have some argument to back it up.
    Given the fairly cloudy legal standards concerning leagues and franchises the NBA has to have some footing.
    It will be interesting to see how far Sterling presses this. His lawyers are probably salivating.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nba...-lifetime-ban/
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    I can't see Silver blindly walking in and just spewing a decision.
    You guys don't think the NBA has lawyers that advised him?


    "Adam Silver (born April 25, 1962) is an American lawyer and the commissioner of the National Basketball Association
    He earned a law degree from the University of Chicago in 1988.[8]

    Before joining the NBA, he served as a litigation associate at Cravath, Swaine & Moore, a law firm in New York.

    Silver also worked as a
    law clerk to Judge Kimba Wood, a federal judge for the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York.[9]"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Silver

    I may be presuming too much, but I bet LAWYER Silver, a LAWYER FOR the NBA, has read the NBA cons ution, regulations, articles of incorporation, etc, etc, etc.



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    Donald Sterling Reportedly Will Sue NBA If Forced to Sell Clippers


    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...m_campaign=nba

    If Silver holds on to Clips, then good luck trying to retain, attract THE NEGRO!
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    "Adam Silver (born April 25, 1962) is an American lawyer and the commissioner of the National Basketball Association
    He earned a law degree from the University of Chicago in 1988.[8]

    Before joining the NBA, he served as a litigation associate at Cravath, Swaine & Moore, a law firm in New York.

    Silver also worked as a
    law clerk to Judge Kimba Wood, a federal judge for the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York.[9]"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Silver

    I may be presuming too much, but I bet LAWYER Silver, a LAWYER FOR the NBA, has read the NBA cons ution, regulations, articles of incorporation, etc, etc, etc.


    You seriously don't think smart lawyers don't take counsel from other smart lawyers?
    Seriously?

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    You seriously don't think smart lawyers don't take counsel from other smart lawyers?
    Seriously?
    you said that, I didn't

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    you said that, I didn't
    Why the smiley judge boots?

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    Why the smiley judge boots?
    I like Smileys (and turtles)

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    I like Smileys (and turtles)
    Yes you do.

    You also think Silver being a lawyer means he knows it all and sees every angle.
    the NBA should just release the law firms it uses, Silver's got it all by himself.

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    NBA will appoint CEO of Clippers

    The NBA will appoint a chief executive officer to oversee the day-to-day operations of the Los Angeles Clippers, the league announced Saturday.

    Clippers owner Donald Sterling was banned for life from the NBA and fined $2.5 million on Tuesday by commissioner Adam Silver for racist remarks he made that were published by TMZ.

    Team president Andy Roeser, one of the Clippers' two alternate governors besides Sterling, had been in charge of the team since Silver's announcement on Tuesday. Roeser, however, drew the ire of many in the organization after he released a statement initially giving Sterling the benefit of the doubt in the wake of Sterling's remarks.

    Once appointed, sources said, the CEO will supersede Roeser, and be given the power to decide if Roeser remains with the organization.

    The decision to appoint a CEO was made in concert with the Clippers organization. No timetable for the appointment was given except to say that it would be made "quickly."

    "The best way to ensure the stability of the team during this difficult situation is to move quickly and install a CEO to oversee the Clippers organization," league spokesman Mike Bass said. "The process of identifying that individual is underway."

    The process is reminiscent of the NBA appointing Jack Sperling to oversee the New Orleans Hornets when it operated the franchise in 2011-12 after owner George Shinn no longer had the means to.

    Coach Doc Rivers, who is also the team's vice president of basketball operations, will continue to run the basketball side with vice president of basketball operations Gary Sacks.

    "The NBA has to do their job, they really do," Rivers said. "They have a lot on their plate as well and I don't think this is something that they can wait on. They're going to do their job."

    Donald Sterling's wife S y, co-owner of the team, said in a statement that she fully supports the decision.

    "I spoke with Commissioner Adam Silver this week to tell him that I fully supported his recent swift and decisive action," she said. "We also agreed at that time that, as a next step, both the league and the team should work together to find some fresh, accomplished executive leadership for the Clippers. I welcome his active involvement in the search for a person of the utmost character, proven excellence and a commitment to promoting equality and inclusiveness."

    She added: "As a co-owner, I am fully committed to taking the necessary steps to make the Clippers the best team in the NBA. That has been my aspiration ever since 1981."

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    If there is a sale it will probably be to Magics group but it will be at Sterlings choice and not the NBa's.
    Has the NBA corporate charter been linked? If it is anything like the NFL corporate charter then Sterling is ed if that 3/4 vote passes. Sure he can litigate it but that will be nothing more than a delaying tactic. The NBA would have the contract and the better argument. No way Sterling lets a jury hear it and a summary judgment seems appropriate. It is what it is.

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    Yes you do.

    You also think Silver being a lawyer means he knows it all and sees every angle.
    the NBA should just release the law firms it uses, Silver's got it all by himself.
    you said that, I didn't.

    Silver's been working for the NBA for 22 years. I bet he knows all there is about the legatlies, esp the NBA articles of incorporation, the owner's agreement, etc, etc.

    Throwing a few $Ms at an external, high-powered law firm? back scratching usually get scratched back.
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    you said that, I didn't.

    Silver's been working for the NBA for 22 years. I bet he knows all there is about the legatlies, esp the NBA articles of incorporation, the ownder's agreements, etc, etc.

    Throwing a few $Ms at an external, high-powered law firm? back scratching usually get scratched back.
    He has more a much larger job now. You know what you implied, don't fraud it up.

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    He has more a much larger job now. You know what you implied, don't fraud it up.
    yes, much more than just legal stuff now, but my guess is that he knows the NBA legalities, which haven't expanded just because he's commish, very well. fraud?

    take you and your butt hurt The Great Boutons lays on you daily, and GFY

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    yes, much more than just legal stuff now, but my guess is that he knows the NBA legalities, which haven't expanded just because he's commish, very well. fraud?

    take you and your butt hurt The Great Boutons lays on you daily, and GFY
    The only thing you lay daily is invented in your tiny cortex.

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    If that's legit then I don't see anything that clearly allows the NBA to terminate his ownership. The only part that might apply is...



    I guess lawyers can make any argument but it doesn't seem to me that Sterling "willfully" did anything.
    If the NBA has passed a resolution regarding civil rights then Sterling has problems. He is on tape telling his assistant to not bring black men to games.

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    If the NBA has passed a resolution regarding civil rights then Sterling has problems. He is on tape telling his assistant to not bring black men to games.
    ex post facto won't fly.

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    ex post facto won't fly.
    Sure. I wouldn't be stunned if there was an anti-discrimination resolution or rule somewhere along the line already was my point.

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    If the NBA has passed a resolution regarding civil rights then Sterling has problems. He is on tape telling his assistant to not bring black men to games.
    You aren't very smart, are you?

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    Even if there may not be a particular provision of the Cons ution/ByLaws that can support a forced sale, but the owners of NBA teams and other parties can certainly find ways to make ownership of the team seem undesirable to Sterling in the short term (the withdrawal of sponsors has already begun) and his team will almost certainly struggle, for as long as he owns the team, to sign and retain quality players, which will significantly affect the bottom line for Sterling.

    He can fight it all he wants, but I don't see how this ends well for him, particularly since I'm not sure that a franchisor is obligated to remain in business with a franchisee it deems undesirable, which unquestionably describes the relationship between the NBA owners and Sterling at the moment.

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