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    Who needs Fox when you've got GOP PR fluffer Jonathan Karl willing and ready to do their dirty work for them? Fox has been pushing the latest fake Benghazi non-scandal for the last day or two, so naturally Karl decided he needed to get in on some of the action at this Wednesday's White House press briefing.



    ABC's Jonathan Karl And The Proof The White House Memo Wasn't Just About Benghazi:


    ABC's Jonathan Karl, who was previously burned when he pushed falsehoods about CIA talking points generated in the wake of the 2012 Benghazi attacks, is now adopting the conservative distortion of a separate set of talking points authored by the White House for media appearances by then U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice.

    On September 16, 2012, Rice appeared on the Sunday political talk shows and suggested that the Benghazi terror attacks had grown out of spontaneous protests like those that were occurring worldwide in response to an anti-Muslim video. Conservatives have claimed that Rice's comments on the Sunday shows were part of a deliberate effort to deceive the American people about the cause of the terror attacks, to bolster President Obama's re-election campaign. This effort has often involved distorting the CIA-approved talking points that Rice used to prepare for the interviews.

    Karl came under fire in May 2013 after reporting that the network had "reviewed" emails from administration officials regarding the creation and editing of those CIA-generated talking points. While nothing Karl reported undermined assertions from the CIA that the intelligence community had approved those talking points, Karl suggested that the emails bolstered the conservative critique of the administration's response.

    In fact, Karl had never seen the emails in question -- his story was based on "summaries" of the emails and "detailed notes" from a source who, it turned out, had misrepresented what the do ents actually said. After media observers slammed Karl's "sloppy" reporting, ABC News issued a statement saying that the network "should have been more precise in its sourcing of those quotes, attributing them to handwritten copies of the emails taken by a Congressional source. We regret that error." Karl himself apologized in a statement to CNN.

    Now Karl is returning to the subject of talking points used to prepare Rice for those September 16, 2012, interviews, seizing on a separate email authored by Deputy National Security Advisor Ben Rhodes that was released yesterday. The email details "Goals" and "Top-lines" for Rice's interviews and provides sample questions and answers.

    In what Mediaite described as a "heated back and forth" during the April 30 White House Press Briefing, Karl hyped this false attack, repeatedly challenging White House Press Secretary Jay Carney over the Rhodes email and Rice's interviews.

    During their exchange, Carney sought to make clear that the Rhodes email was not just about the Benghazi attacks but was a more extensive do ent detailing the situation in the Middle East more broadly, and thus that the comment that "these protests are rooted in an internet video" was not about Benghazi specifically. According to Carney, Rice depended on the CIA talking points for information on Benghazi and the White House talking points for other topics.

    Conservative media have been quick to use the exchange to attack Carney and the White House. But the White House do ents upon which Karl based his misleading questions support Carney's argument.
    Read on...


    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/04...te-hous/199096


    http://crooksandliars.com/2014/04/ab...an-karl-pushes

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    top military intelligence official in Africa at the time of the Benghazi attacks testified Thursday that U.S. personnel "should have tried" to help Americans under fire on Sept. 11, 2012, in an unprecedented public statement from a leading military officer.

    Retired Brig. Gen. Robert Lovell, who at the time of the attacks was the intelligence director at AFRICOM, questioned the merits of the ongoing debate over whether U.S. military forces could have responded in time. Leading Pentagon and other military officials previously have argued that additional U.S. assets were not deployed to assist Americans under attack that night because they weren't close enough.










    "The point is we should have tried," Lovell told the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, in his opening statement. "As another saying goes -- always move to the sound of the guns."

    He later said the military "could have made a response of some sort."

    Lovell also sharply countered claims that the intelligence community and military initially thought this was a protest over an anti-Islam video gone awry. He said U.S. officials knew this was a "hostile action" from the outset, even though they didn't know how long the attack would last.

    "This was no demonstration gone terribly awry," Lovell said. "The facts led to the conclusion of a terrorist attack."

    Under questioning, he also said the Internet video was "briefly discussed" on the ground but "dismissed" as a motive shortly afterward.

    The testimony is significant, as it marks the latest effort to lift the curtain behind what happened during the night of the attack and the ensuing days. In a cryptic statement, Lovell cited the need for a "full forthcoming to the American people."

    "I felt it was my duty to come forward," he said. "The cir stances of what occurred there in Benghazi that day need to be known."

    The testimony comes two days after new emails were obtained and released by a watchdog group showing a top White House aide was involved in preparing then-U.N. ambassador Susan Rice for her controversial Sunday show appearances, where she pushed the narrative that protests over an Internet video were to blame.

    Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., at the start of the hearing, ripped the administration over those emails, and accused it of deliberately hiding the do ents after an earlier congressional subpoena.

    "It is disturbing and perhaps criminal ... that do ents like these were hidden by the Obama administration from Congress and the public alike," Issa said. He claimed the withholding of these do ents is the worst transparency violation since at least the Nixon administration.

    One email showed notes from White House adviser Ben Rhodes regarding a "prep call" with Rice; the notes discussed the Internet video as the cause. White House Press Secretary Jay Carney claimed Wednesday that the "prep call" was only in reference to demonstrations elsewhere in the Middle East and Africa, and not Benghazi.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014...nghazi-attack/

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    ing retired General groveling for airtime, $$$ on Fox.

    Benghazi + Fox?

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    So, a reporter is a "GOP PR fluffer" when they challenge this admin?

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    where was the Repug outrage? why didn't they witch-hunt dubya and his WH?






    • 2002 - Nine people killed by bomb blast near US embassy in Lima - seen as attempt to disrupt forthcoming visit by President George W. Bush.


    • 2002-2006 - Karachi consulate attacks: three separate attacks killed 18 people (including an American diplomat) and injured 87.


    • 2002 - Two Marines shot, one killed in Kuwait.




    • 2003 - Three American diplomats are killed by a roadside bomb targeting their convoy in Gaza. Palestine Resistance Committees, an umbrella organization has taken responsibility for the attack."[2]












    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...inst_Americans

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    13 Benghazis That Occurred on Bush’s Watch Without a Peep from Fox News



    January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.

    June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan.
    Suicide bomber connected with al-Qaida attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.


    October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia.
    U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of “Bali Bombings.” No fatalities.


    February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan.
    Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.


    May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
    Armed al-Qaida terrorists storm the diplomatic compound killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.


    July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan.
    A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.


    December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.
    Al-Qaida terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.


    March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again.
    Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name “David Foy.” This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what’s considered American soil.)


    September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria.
    Four armed gunmen shouting “Allahu akbar” storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.


    January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece.
    Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.


    March 18, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen.
    Members of the al-Qaida-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.


    July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey.
    Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.


    September 17, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen.
    Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had beenmarried for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.

    http://thedailybanter.com/2013/05/13...from-fox-news/

    Issa!

    right-wingers here swallowing Benghazi turds as if they were covered in bacon and cheese and BBQ sauce!


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    boutons_dumbass,


    The outrage is about the "offensive movie" talking points.

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    boutons_dumbass,


    The outrage is about the "offensive movie" talking points.
    Benghazi, like EVERY Repug/FOX political campaign, is a fabricated outrage, rousing the ignorant redneck rabble.

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    Benghazi, like EVERY Repug/FOX political campaign, is a fabricated outrage, rousing the ignorant redneck rabble.
    Well, if anyone knows about phony outrage, it's you.

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    Update: Boehner to form select committee to investigate Benghazi


    House Speaker John Boehner is “seriously considering” appointing a select committee to investigate the attacks on the U.S. diplomatic post in Benghazi, Libya, according to a senior GOP leadership aide. The move comes after the revelation of an email from a top Obama national security official, Ben Rhodes, instructing Susan Rice to focus on an anti-Muslim internet video to explain the attacks.

    “The new emails this week were the straw that broke the camel’s back,” says the aide. “The Speaker was furious to learn that the admininstration withheld relevant do ents from a congressional subpoena. He’s sick and tired of this evasion and obstruction from the administration, and wants a solution to finally force accountability, get to the truth, and provide justice.”

    Boehner, who has paid careful attention to the Benghazi developments since the attacks, has resisted calls to appoint a select committee, preferring to allow the various committees of jurisdiction to pursue investigations of their slices of the attacks on their own. Aides say Boehner continues to believe that the work of those committees has been valuable. “The current committees investigating the attack have done good work, using their authority, including subpoena authority, to gather facts, interview hundreds of witnesses, and conduct dozens of hearings. But this week’s events demonstrate a new level of stonewalling and obfuscation by the administration that requires a new level of investigation.”

    The House Oversight and Reform Committee issued a subpoena for Benghazi-related do ents in August of 2013, but the Rhodes email and a second set of talking points that originated with the White House were released to the public for the first time this week after Judicial Watch, a conservative research group, obtained them via a Freedom of Information Act request. For these reasons, according the aide, “the reasons for appointing a committee now are straightforward.” The aide continued: “For the first time we have clear and public evidence that the White House was more involved in misleading the American people than it had previous admitted. And, second, it’s now proven that the administration withheld relevant do ents from a congressional subpoena request. While the existing investigatory committees in the House have full subpoena power, the administration has now demonstrated it is willing to flagrantly defy such subpoena requests, compelling the House to consider taking the strongest actions possible in an effort to ensure Americans have the truth about what happened.”

    The details of the exact structure of the special committee are still under discussion, but a source tells THE WEEKLY STANDARD that Rep. Trey Gowdy, a lawmaker with a reputation for tough questioning of administration witnesses, is under consideration to chair it. Gowdy has participated in meetings of an ad hoc committee of House members from various committees of jurisdiction who have met informally to compare notes and shape strategy on the Benghazi investigations.

    Separately, TWS has learned that at least two committees will begin an immediate inquiry into the odd pattern of classification that preceded the release of Benghazi do ents this week. Some of the previously unclassified redacted do ents released to Judicial Watch were classified by the administration in February, after the subpoena from the House Oversight Committee and the FOIA request from Judicial Watch.

    Boehner has largely stayed in the background on Benghazi, but he has demonstrated a keen interested in the growing controversy behind the scenes. In private conversations with members of Congress and others, Boehner cites key dates in the long Benghazi timeline from memory. He has also shown a particular interest in the stories of US security and diplomatic personnel who were on the ground during the attacks.

    A final decision on a select committee could come “very soon,” according to a Republican aide.





    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...zi_789000.html

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    Well, if anyone knows about phony outrage, it's you.
    phony! I'm THE REAL DEAL

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    Update: Boehner to form select committee to investigate Benghazi


    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...zi_789000.html
    Boner watches Fox too much. His new committee is a real slap in the face to Issa and his 1000s of hours and $Ms wasted to FIND NOTHING ON BENGHAZI

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    where was the Repug outrage? why didn't they witch-hunt dubya and his WH?






    • 2002 - Nine people killed by bomb blast near US embassy in Lima - seen as attempt to disrupt forthcoming visit by President George W. Bush.


    • 2002-2006 - Karachi consulate attacks: three separate attacks killed 18 people (including an American diplomat) and injured 87.


    • 2002 - Two Marines shot, one killed in Kuwait.




    • 2003 - Three American diplomats are killed by a roadside bomb targeting their convoy in Gaza. Palestine Resistance Committees, an umbrella organization has taken responsibility for the attack."[2]












    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...inst_Americans

    ================================

    13 Benghazis That Occurred on Bush’s Watch Without a Peep from Fox News



    January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.

    June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan.
    Suicide bomber connected with al-Qaida attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.


    October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia.
    U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of “Bali Bombings.” No fatalities.


    February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan.
    Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.


    May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
    Armed al-Qaida terrorists storm the diplomatic compound killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.


    July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan.
    A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.


    December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.
    Al-Qaida terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.


    March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again.
    Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name “David Foy.” This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what’s considered American soil.)


    September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria.
    Four armed gunmen shouting “Allahu akbar” storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.


    January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece.
    Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.


    March 18, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen.
    Members of the al-Qaida-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.


    July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey.
    Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.


    September 17, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen.
    Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had beenmarried for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.

    http://thedailybanter.com/2013/05/13...from-fox-news/

    Issa!

    right-wingers here swallowing Benghazi turds as if they were covered in bacon and cheese and BBQ sauce!


    LOL on a scale from 1-10 in political knowledge , 1 being ignorant and 10 being a genious, IM about a 2.5. no way this can be true no way lol

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    LOL on a scale from 1-10 in political knowledge , 1 being ignorant and 10 being a genious, IM about a 2.5. no way this can be true no way lol
    It's true. There were 13 embassy attacks that happened under Bush, and Fox didn't give a .

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    It's true. There were 13 embassy attacks that happened under Bush, and Fox didn't give a .
    It's about the tape!

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    It's about the tape!
    It's about Hillary Clinton....

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    It's about Hillary Clinton....
    yes, Repugs slandering pre-candidate HRC and The Muslim Negro BHO.

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    yes, Repugs slandering pre-candidate HRC and The Muslim Negro BHO.
    Don't sweat it boutons, the media is working hard to cover up the cover up. Just like all the rest of BHO blunders.

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    Don't sweat it boutons, the media is working hard to cover up the cover up. Just like all the rest of BHO blunders.
    There is no coverup. Issa, his hitmen, and many taxpayer $Ms wasted FOUND NOTHING.

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    There is no coverup. Issa, his hitmen, and many taxpayer $Ms wasted FOUND NOTHING.
    boutons, people aren't stupid. Obama and his paid liars will deny, deny and deny but his re-election was so important that he let four people die. And no one even knows where he was while it was taking place. Shooting hoops?

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    boutons, people aren't stupid. Obama and his paid liars will deny, deny and deny but his re-election was so important that he let four people die. And no one even knows where he was while it was taking place. Shooting hoops?
    If The Muslim Negro and his Exec branch are lying, why can't Issa/Repug harassment witch-hunting expose their lies?

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    This latest memo opens the door and there stood Obama and merry henchmen with their hand in the cookie jar. Be patient little man, if Gowdy is chairman of the select committee he will find out the truth. And you want be a happy camper.

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    The less Repugs, and their equivalents on ST, realize, except for "repeal every last word" Cruz, that BARAK HUSSEIN OBAMAcare is a huge winner for the Dems (as the Repug have known since 2009) so they have to fallback on Benghazi, etc for witch-hunting harassment.
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    The less Repugs, and their equivalents on ST, realize, except for "repeal every last word" Cruz, that BARAK HUSSEIN OBMAMAcare is a huge winner for the Dems (as the Repug have known since 2009) so they have to fallback on Benghazi, etc for witch-hunting harassment.
    The approval rating of both Obama and Obamacare disagree with you. Name a potential candidate that with run while backing Obamacare?

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    The approval rating of both Obama and Obamacare disagree with you. Name a potential candidate that with run while backing Obamacare?
    That's kinda how this is, you coulda rescued me from drowning
    Now it's too late, I'm on a thousand downers now, I'm drowsy
    And all I wanted was a lousy letter or a call
    I hope you know I ripped all of your pictures off the wall
    I loved you Slim, we coulda been together, think about it
    You ruined it now, I hope you can't sleep and you dream about it
    And when you dream, I hope you can't sleep and you scream about it
    I hope your conscience eats at you and you can't breathe without me

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    A lot of GOP talking points have been smashed in recent months, with over 8 million signing up for Obamacare and April's job report showing 288K jobs created. They gotta have something to run on in the midterms. This method allows them to galvanize the base for the midterms, and try and damage Hillary in 2016. Nothing will come of this current "bombs " and Republicans will likely find another "smoking gun" email a few months from now and repeat the process.

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