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so true. Being good with numbers stops carrying you once you hit calc2 or even some parts of calc. I never had to take linear or diff eq, but calc 2 and 3 had almost nothing to do with numbers
I was accepted in 2010. Looks to be the same today as well.
tbh Diff Eq requires you to know pretty much all the integration stuff you learned from Cal 2. Then you get into odd things like Step function and Laplace Transforms which doesn't involve any sort of numerical calculations.
Linear Algebra was an odd class. The first few weeks is really easy addition/subtraction/multiplication stuff that you just use in matrices. Then it gets pretty abstract really quick and can sort of blow your mind. My favorite math class of them all IMHO
If you liked the abstraction in Linear Algebra you should take Abstract Algebra. Or if you're out of school now, buy Micheal Artin's book used (1st edition) for $21.32 after tax and shipping for a good quality hardcover
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listi...9154935&sr=1-2
Artin is one of the best algebraists in the world and his father (Emil Artin) is the guy responsible for our modern view of Galois Theory (you can get a book of his lectures on Galois Theory for $7 + tax & shipping)
Here's video lectures for Harvard's Math 122 based on the Michael Artin book, though it skips a lot of great material but covers quite a bit of group theory and ring theory
http://www.extension.harvard.edu/ope...stract-algebra
We used Dummit & Foote in my algebra courses, which is more abstract and has more material (for instance, no tensors in Artin), but Artin has way cooler applications and is much much better written.
But yeah, linear algebra is about the most important subject in math. Can't believe lots of schools make people take calc instead of linear.
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I used to love math until calc 2. 3 was actually easier tbh. Since multi variable is such a new concept they really simplify that first class
Speaking of Dummit & Foote's algebra book, my favorite math review ever:
http://www.adequacy.org/stories/2001...163749.94.html
- moriveth
Abstract Algebra (2nd Ed.)
David S. Dummit, Richard M. Foote
John Wiley & Sons, Inc.
Summary: Riddled with errors and esoteric formulae, this book is incredibly dangerous for students who have yet to achieve a firm grasp of Algebra. Avoid at all costs.
Like most Adequacy readers, I am very good at higher mathematics. In high school, I placed near the top of my Algebra II class, and aced the Math portion of the SAT with a 590. As my children are currently working their way through middle school, I felt obligated to renew my skills in order to help them with their homework. But after slogging through Dummit and Foote's turgid tome, I can only say that it is the worst mathematics text I have ever had the misfortune to encounter.
The first flaw a reader will note is the incredible rate at which the material is presented. Section 0.1 breezes through difficult concepts like functions, sets, and complex numbers. By Chapter 1, my head was spinning after reading statements like, "For n in Z+, Z/nZ is an abelian group under the operation + of addition of residue classes as described in Chapter 0," and, "A subset S of elements of a group G with the property that every element of G can be written as a (finite) product of elements of S and their inverses is called a set of generators of G."
As we see from these excerpts from the text, Dummit and Foote are disciples of "new math," a doctrine discredited in the 70's. Too often, strange symbols and jargon take the place of clear English prose. Extraneous concepts like "sets"--much less "finite nilpotent groups" or "invariant factor decompositions" or "symmetric multilinear maps"--are merely obstacles to a student's understanding of algebra. Sadly, the authors, holed up in their ivory towers, have not yet learned these vital educational lessons.
Yet for all the apparent erudition of the authors, the text is full of obvious errors. For example, on page 44, the authors assert that z*a = z + a, an obvious error. On page 97, we find the ludicrous assertion that a^p = a, clearly flase unless p = 1. And on page 329, the text asserts that r(x + N) = rx + N, an obvious typo.
That the authors could publish such a sloppy text and remain employed at the University of Vermont speaks volumes about the evils of tenure.
I can only recommend this text to those already secure in their knowledge of Algebra who might derive amusement from the frequent missteps of the authors. And even then, with a $100 price tag, it can hardly be considered worth the expense.
I fear for the education of the next generation when prominent publishers push "new math" on hapless educators. Using this text to teach learn Algebra from this text will alienate students from math and science, driving America further behind the rest of the world in education. I can only hope that our school boards will reject this attempt to corrupt high school curricula and get back to teaching the basics.
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Then as someone who has been a GTA coordinator and has taught graduate courses, I'd say the privatized nature of USC's academics might contribute where a state school typically uses the GRE as the first step in weeding out convenience education seekers who think every degree is like University of Phoenix. A lot of convenience seekers will often drop out shortly into legit programs which hurt graduation rates. Most state schools will take anyone who qualifies on paper, so the GRE and it's scores demonstrates conviction of education where one will prioritize studying for an exam for grades, will pay for the exam, maybe multiple times.
USC is a private school that is unique in its enrollment and tuition.
This is merely my opinion, but knowing what I know from my educator experiences, the GRE helps separate students who can't handle a small rigor before they can't handle a program load, fail courses (which we as educators have to address), drop out (which hurts rates and priority of funding/teaching lines).
"i aced the math portion with a 590"... out of 800
Just doing a quick search of MSW prpograms, Columbia, University of Illinois, University of Alabama, University of Southern Florida and University of Washington do not require the GRE either. Columbia, private, the others public. And that was only the first page. I think our experiences within graduate school are two completely different experiences. I understand and see your point of weeding out the good and bad, the capable and incapable. However, within social work the student is made or broken within practice, not the classroom, as per my experience. It's obviously different for each area of expertise. It's very self-selective. Within the first three weeks of my first semester I had a class go from about 18 to 10. By the end of my classes there were about 7 students in my two classes that had space for 12.
I certainly understand why social work wouldn't require it. Don't really get why it would.
Not sure why it's required for physical therapy, either.
Trade/Industry degrees separate from heavy math/communication can't really use the GRE, outside of my thoughts for weeding out.
Oh and thinking that the GRE just isn't for social work is a generalization. For the OP here's a list of schools that do not require the GRE for physical therapy. Both UNT does not require it. http://ainsleydiduca.com/grad-school...equire-gre/#PT
Fair enough, but it's a non-traditional, experiential degree. Now, getting into social psychology, and socio-economic ethnography and sure. Maybe that's what the graduate degrees focus on, but if trade based like administration, public relation, human resources, I'm not seeing it's use, let alone necessity.
What'd you think of Discrete and Linear?
never took anything beyond calc 3
I have been lucky enough to have no choice in terms of studying and yes I consider it's a chance. My parents are simple workers making the minimum salary, to study I needed to finance all by myself, no ing time to wonder let's study arts because you know it's cool and I will have time for friends and watch tv.
I was not specially gifted for math or study in general so I worked my ass off in a prep school studying 16 hours a day, I went to a solid business school got a master and a mba now I make 350K+ and my kids won't get the "hey buddy choose whatever makes you feel good working the minimum" treatment, they will have to earn their money with hard work and dedication.
If you have the luxury to study arts or history go for it but I ing hate the "get the maximum I can with the minimum investment possible" at ude. It's just justification for being a lazy mofo.
Well said tbh. Great job on making something great out of yourself
Men, in particular, don't have the luxury of getting a useless degree and following their "passion".
How many men working in starbucks do you see marrying women making 6 degrees? not many. The opposite is perfectly acceptable though.
Lol how many females do you know who work at Starbucks but are married to men with 6 degrees?
tbh the solution for some of these scros is to just finish their useless degree. Then go to a cheap grad school with a nice gym, hot girls. Continue on your 'career' path and fluff up your useless degree to dumb 20 year old girls. They won't know the difference between an investment banker at Goldman Sachs or a graduate student who says he is studying the Socioeconomic Factors of Neurolynguistic Pathways of the Human Mind. "Yeah es, I'm currently working on my Master's degree in Sociological Science" they will then get gullible and sleep with you. Work out everyday and be the stereotypical ambitious gym bro. We all know the type. , there's already one in this thread. (No Lyfe *cough cough*)Well said tbh. Great job on making something great out of yourself
Men, in particular, don't have the luxury of getting a useless degree and following their "passion".
How many men working in starbucks do you see marrying women making 6 degrees? not many. The opposite is perfectly acceptable though.
"Sup bro?? How you been? Yeah just gettin' a lift in then about to hit up that library. Got to do well on this _______ test so I can get into this _________ grad school and make six figures a year!!"
And then when grad school is up and it's time to go work at McDonalds, just go to more grad school/PhD/[whatever school that you can think of to just get you into more debt] but the bottom line is just keep working out and keep telling those college girls that you have a plan to make six figures a year after you get done with [blank] school in a few years. You will be living the dream between your 20-40's. Banging hot college girls who don't know any better. That's what you'll be doing if you have a real job anyway, minus the actual hard work that's involved.
By the time you're 40 the ruse will eventually be up and your life will suck. You will pretty much be homeless, but life pretty much ends there anyway. Oil/gas geologists and bankers retire by that time and you can consider this your retirement, just in a different sense. To escape the mounting debt, just join a monastery and pretend to be intellectual and done with this 'materialistic' life (reciting quotes from the Bhagadavad Gita will gain you extra scro points). Then you can spend the rest of your 30/40 years on earth in peace trying to gain 'Enlightenment' (whatever that is).
Problem solved
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Also, bonus points if you can throw out a vague ambition at getting into a top or foreign school. (Ex. "I'm thinking about applying to the Mayo Clinic really soon" or "I'm looking at getting into the London School of Economics really soon" etc) This will really make the panties drop.
Or listen carefully to a bunch of stories that people tell on their Euro trips, memorize them, and then tell girls the same story lying and saying that you actually studied abroad.
Be shrewd. Be an enigma. Be a chameleon. Be multiple places at once.
sounds like you make enough, just get a hooker
you know way too much about this . wanna talk about it?tbh the solution for some of these scros is to just finish their useless degree. Then go to a cheap grad school with a nice gym, hot girls. Continue on your 'career' path and fluff up your useless degree to dumb 20 year old girls. They won't know the difference between an investment banker at Goldman Sachs or a graduate student who says he is studying the Socioeconomic Factors of Neurolynguistic Pathways of the Human Mind. "Yeah es, I'm currently working on my Master's degree in Sociological Science" they will then get gullible and sleep with you. Work out everyday and be the stereotypical ambitious gym bro. We all know the type. , there's already one in this thread. (No Lyfe *cough cough*)
"Sup bro?? How you been? Yeah just gettin' a lift in then about to hit up that library. Got to do well on this _______ test so I can get into this _________ grad school and make six figures a year!!"
And then when grad school is up and it's time to go work at McDonalds, just go to more grad school/PhD/[whatever school that you can think of to just get you into more debt] but the bottom line is just keep working out and keep telling those college girls that you have a plan to make six figures a year after you get done with [blank] school in a few years. You will be living the dream between your 20-40's. Banging hot college girls who don't know any better. That's what you'll be doing if you have a real job anyway, minus the actual hard work that's involved.
By the time you're 40 the ruse will eventually be up and your life will suck. You will pretty much be homeless, but life pretty much ends there anyway. Oil/gas geologists and bankers retire by that time and you can consider this your retirement, just in a different sense. To escape the mounting debt, just join a monastery and pretend to be intellectual and done with this 'materialistic' life (reciting quotes from the Bhagadavad Gita will gain you extra scro points). Then you can spend the rest of your 30/40 years on earth in peace trying to gain 'Enlightenment' (whatever that is).
Problem solved
is the dog wagging the tail or the tail wagging the dog?
Are we talking 350k+ US dollars?
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