Yeah, 04-12 was always up and down except 09 and 11 that were all downward
yep, and here we journey to the 'Spurs FO' thread. As always, I believe they didn't do enough to surround TD. I still think they only wanted to "appear compe ive" to keep the fans forking out the cash.
Legit FO's who care aboutgo out and get a Gasol or Garnet or Shaq or Lebron, etc.
c'mon Elnono, where would Manu be if he was drafted by any team other than the Tim Duncans?
TD = 4+
there is no scenario on this earth where TD doesn't get at least 4. Manu did nothing to increase that number
Yeah, 09 was the broken ankle, IIRC... but even 11 was somewhat of a trip, with Duncan looking like he was ready to hang them up... this place was basically calling for either blowing it up or going on a farewell tour...
07 was the most carefree IMO. Even when the Suns tied it up in Game 4, I never seriously thought the Spurs would lose that series.
I was probably more worried after losing Game 1 to the Nuggets tbh
yep, and here we journey to the 'Spurs FO' thread. As always, I believe they didn't do enough to surround TD. I still think they only wanted to "appear compe ive" to keep the fans forking out the cash. legit FO's who care about
c'mon Elnono, where would Manu be if he was drafted by any team other than the Tim Duncans?
TD = 4+
there is no scenario on this earth where TD doesn't get at least 4. Manu did nothing to increase that numbersure vander... it's so easy. Small market winning 4 ships... look at Cleveland with Lebron... or heck, look at the Knicks. But I know you'll never appreciate what the Spurs have done. That's on you.
And sure Tony and Manu had a lot to do with it. That's why they're called the big 3, not the big 1.
Every Jordan had a Pippen, every Shaq had a Kobe, every Kobe had a Gasol, every Lebron had a Wade... That's just how you win this game.
I wanted to blow the team up after 2011. I can't believe just how much of a drag Jefferson was on the entire team. I didn't figure one player could completely wreck a team and make two legendary players look so ty. You could make a pretty solid case for being the worst Spurs player all-time.
Just as amazing how quick the turnaround was once he was ejected... people harp on the FO a lot, and they had their ty moments, but they put together a contender in basically 6 months... obviously, Diaw dropping in our laps was huge too, and sometimes you need to have a bit of luck, but still...
quite the prepared defeat speech tbh.
And sure Tony and Manu had a lot to do with it. That's why they're called the big 3, not the big 1.
Every Jordan had a Pippen, every Shaq had a Kobe, every Kobe had a Gasol, every Lebron had a Wade... That's just how you win this game.
however, LA added Kobe/Shaq, did that not work?
then Gasol to Kobe, did that not work?
Miami added Shaq to Wade, did that not work?
then LeAthlet and Bosh to Wade, did that not work?
Boston added KG and etc. did that not work?
seriously, basketball is not rocket science, and being given TD makes makes it obscenely easier...
Only Boston and LA has more les than San Antonio... Miami might catch up this year if they 3-peat.
That's how good these Spurs have been. You missed it, that's your problem.
And those are all big market teams!!!
You're making my point for me.
You forgot to count those automatic les we won after drafting RobinsonOnly Boston and LA has more les than San Antonio... Miami might catch up this year if they 3-peat.
That's how good these Spurs have been. You missed it, that's your problem.
And those are all big market teams!!!
You're making my point for me.
Plus he lists the 5 or so examples that worked... but there's gazillion that did not.
Heck, the Knicks are the epitome of throwing cash at the problem, piling up talent and having absolutely nothing to show for it.
Amare/Nash didn't work
Amare/Melo/Chandler didn't work
Howard/Kobe/Nash didn't work
Howard/Harden didn't work
Durant/Westbrook/Harden didn't work
you can go on for pages...
last I checked the NBA had a salary cap and and luxury tax and whatnot...Only Boston and LA has more les than San Antonio... Miami might catch up this year if they 3-peat.
That's how good these Spurs have been. You missed it, that's your problem.
And those are all big market teams!!!
You're making my point for me.
your small market tears don't amount to compared to TD.
If Manu had been drafted by any other team, ANY, ANY other team he would have zero
The small market is a reality Tim accepted when he decided to stick with the Spurs. I doubt he's in tears after 4 championships, but he only knows.
zero what? championships? maybe, but he was drafted by the Spurs and he was an instrumental piece in 3 championships. That we know. The rest is
pages and pages filled with hack players like Amare/Howard as if they were the same as TD
sad tbh, the dementia of a Manu homer
I didn't say they're the same as TD, stop making stuff up
I'm pointing out that all this players you say the Spurs should've traded for to pair with TD are the same "hack players" you're talking about.
After all, neither KG or Allen had a championship until they set foot in Boston. Gasol didn't win a single playoff game before landing in LA. All "hack players".
You're capt hindsight, that's your real problem. You think it's easy, but it isn't. Again, look at the Knicks. They always had the megabucks and are easily the biggest market in the NBA. Failure after failure.
Heck, outside Boston, LA, San Antonio and now Miami, every NBA team has been more or less an abject failure by vander standards
did the Shaq/Kobe/Gasol/KG/Lebron etc. acquisitions lead to championships because the cities were big markets?I didn't say they're the same as TD, stop making stuff up
I'm pointing out that all this players you say the Spurs should've traded for to pair with TD are the same "hack players" you're talking about.
After all, neither KG or Allen had a championship until they set foot in Boston. Gasol didn't win a single playoff game before landing in LA. All "hack players".
You're capt hindsight, that's your real problem. You think it's easy, but it isn't. Again, look at the Knicks. They always had the megabucks and are easily the biggest market in the NBA. Failure after failure.
or was it because they were known quan ies and competent FO's ...
using NY to support your argument of randomness rather than incompetence is pretty weak
this line: "After all, neither KG or Allen had a championship until they set foot in Boston. Gasol didn't win a single playoff game before landing in LA. All "hack players"
these are examples of other front offices identifying talent, getting it, and winning with it.
something the Spurs have never done.
do you understand?
Spurs. Have. Never. Done.
other teams have done this, Spurs have not, despite drafting Tim Duncan
Spurs sucked in 1997 and so managed to drafted one of the top 10 players of all time.
after this, the Spurs were never able to identify talent on the free agent market and add it to the team in order to win championships.
wrong thread.
You'll never hear the NBA commish say he would love a Spurs vs Spurs finals. You're comparing apples to oranges.
Did they know when they traded for these "hack players" they were going to win? Ofcourse not. You're talking now with the score already settled. Hindsight.
Every FO makes moves that think will help them get better, and every team does it depending on their ability to make those moves. For every of those 5 you mentioned that worked out, there's thousands that do not.
Cherry picking the ones that do means absolutely nothing. It's like saying, well, the Spurs FO were geniuses for trading Malik for Nazr... hey, we won a championship so they're geniuses!
Your bar for "competence" doesn't exist. Under your premise, no FO was ever competent outside of LA, Boston, San Antonio and now Miami. It's an imaginary bar that's only in your head.
But you go through this every year, even during the time the team was actually winning a championship, and you were still sour and whining.
It really doesn't matter how many championships do you feel the Spurs should've won. Tim choose to stay in San Antonio fully aware of the limitations, and the Spurs went from nothing to third best team in NBA history.
An amazing feat for a team that always had limitations due to where it was, and just a testament on how good Tim and the FO have been.
don't worry OP, skull-1 has all the melts you could ask for right on cue.
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