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    And each one of them are 22 or later. It is deep because even the Suns own lottery pick if slotted accordingly is a safe pick. That is not the same as finding sure starters at the end of the round.
    Wrong. But I'll let you figure out where.

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    Sure. We both know you have lost the argument and that is why you have resorted to this tactic. As others have indicated, no one is buying it. What is disappointing is your lack of wit.

    Suns are a lottery team and you are upset they didn't win postseason awards. You also probably think not having winners in youth athletics is a good idea.

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    Wrong. But I'll let you figure out where.
    I won't and we both know teams of other fans and many Sun fans will not either. You really suck at arguing and are about as compelling as a dirty toilet seat.

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    The Clippers don't even play Dudley, and have spent multiple attempts at signing vet scrubs to recoup what they lost in Butler. Ignore Bledsoe, and they probably still undo trade to get out from under Dudley's for Butler's expiring.

    The Pacers desperately need spot-up shooting and active rebounding from a big, they would love to undo trading Green and Plumlee.

    Keep trying.

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    I won't and we both know teams of other fans and many Sun fans will not either. You really suck at arguing and are about as compelling as a dirty toilet seat.
    Hahahaha

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    Sure. We both know you have lost the argument and that is why you have resorted to this tactic. As others have indicated, no one is buying it. What is disappointing is your lack of wit.

    Suns are a lottery team and you are upset they didn't win postseason awards. You also probably think not having winners in youth athletics is a good idea.
    Since when is exec of the regular season a postseason award? You stupid ...

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    I'm pissed. Yeah. It's bull . But had banter not started back, it have begun and ended with that first post. Everyone got Bufordhurt and I opted to pass the time.

    It is bull , however. And everyone knows it.
    You're the one that seems butthurt here, bro. Not sure how "Yep, RC got this as a lifetime achievement" sounds butthurt.

    It is interesting that you can't help but add in that last bit, though...

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    Because it's bull .

    Yeah, as a Suns fan I believe McDonough was robbed to gift an already robbed GM an award which he is clearly generally deserving of, but not specifically deserving of this season.

    But seriously. People stop engaging me, this will die.

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    The Clippers don't even play Dudley, and have spent multiple attempts at signing vet scrubs to recoup what they lost in Butler. Ignore Bledsoe, and they probably still undo trade to get out from under Dudley's for Butler's expiring.

    The Pacers desperately need spot-up shooting and active rebounding from a big, they would love to undo trading Green and Plumlee.

    Keep trying.
    Thanks for continuing to overrate Plum and Bledsoe. I never said they were terrible but they are not difference makers as the Suns did not even make the playoffs.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/standings

    What I especially liked was the 5-5 finish with the season on the line. Choke to miss the playoffs and you think that you should be rewarded. Typical suns fan.

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    Since when is exec of the regular season a postseason award? You stupid ...
    I misspoke. Oh well. You have a good point though. The Suns failed to qualify for the postseason.

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    Thanks for continuing to overrate Plum and Bledsoe. I never said they were terrible but they are not difference makers as the Suns did not even make the playoffs.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/standings

    What I especially liked was the 5-5 finish with the season on the line. Choke to miss the playoffs and you think that you should be rewarded. Typical suns fan.
    Spurs choked a le away from Buford last year and he got rewarded the very next honoring ceremony. 'Splain, please....

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    Thanks for continuing to overrate Plum and Bledsoe. I never said they were terrible but they are not difference makers as the Suns did not even make the playoffs.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/standings

    What I especially liked was the 5-5 finish with the season on the line. Choke to miss the playoffs and you think that you should be rewarded. Typical suns fan.
    I said ignoring Bledsoe, stupid .

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    Spurs choked a le away from Buford last year and he got rewarded the very next honoring ceremony. 'Splain, please....
    It is pretty sad that you cannot understand the difference between losing in the Finals and failing to make the playoffs.



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    All of that and you did not make the playoffs. Go ahead and overrate Plum and Bledsoe some more please. You really should act more like those first round picks aren't in the 20s. Scola, Gortat and Dudley at least made the playoffs.

    Further, the awards are not determined on the basis of a single year. The effects that trades have take years to manifest. I do not think you could have evaluated the Leonard trade well the year it was made for example.

    Quite frankly after those Nash MVPs several years ago I have to say that Sunfan whining about undeserved awards is hilarious. Now complain about Stoudemire et al being suspended for idiocy and how means the league hates the Suns and our day can be complete. Suns tear are delicious.
    Don't think I'm whining about anything, just making the case for my boy McD. I think it shows a general lack of awareness among voters for this award that RC has never won this award before, and that he won it this year of all years.

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    I think drafting Len is what killed your GM..

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    I said ignoring Bledsoe, stupid .
    Aww, you need a tissue. If you are trying to make look stupid, you are doing a poor job of it.

    5-5. Miss the playoffs.

    I would not be happy either.

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    Also, I am going to be very interested to see how PHX does with late round draft picks (and their lottery pick). They had so many guys seemingly play above their heads. Let's see how those same players do next season and how they build/keep their team together. They really had an incredible season and were fun to watch. They played hard and if they draft well and develop players, they should be a playoff team soon.

    But they have so many "what-ifs" that any regression from guys like Green/Morris's/Other Scrub and bad drafting could derail them fast.

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    I think drafting Len is what killed your GM..
    But he drafted Archie Goodwin, future hall-of-famer and GOAT. Move over, MJ.

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    Don't think I'm whining about anything, just making the case for my boy McD. I think it shows a general lack of awareness among voters for this award that RC has never won this award before, and that he won it this year of all years.
    X. You are cool.

    If you guys make the playoffs with a decent seed next year I imagine you guys will be a shoe in.

    The other guys is just so frantic its hard not to with him.

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    Also, I am going to be very interested to see how PHX does with late round draft picks (and their lottery pick). They had so many guys seemingly play above their heads. Let's see how those same players do next season and how they build/keep their team together. They really had an incredible season and were fun to watch. They played hard and if they draft well and develop players, they should be a playoff team soon.

    But they have so many "what-ifs" that any regression from guys like Green/Morris's/Other Scrub and bad drafting could derail them fast.
    McD did a great job of establishing himself this year, and I feel like his efforts should have been rewarded above all others. But yeah, he needs to continue building on this foundation. Relying on guys like Gerald Green, Markieff Morris and PJ Tucker to get you into the playoffs isn't getting it done.

    I think we've got the #14, #18, and #29 this year. Gotta draft wisely or package a few of those picks for a star player. Suns can't rest or feel like they've succeeded because they got 48 wins out of an overachieving roster.

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    JMark just had an aneurism or something. He's normally not like that from the limited posts I have read...He was fired up though *butt slap*

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    JMark is just demonstrating to you who our favorite member of the team is.

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    McD did a great job of establishing himself this year, and I feel like his efforts should have been rewarded above all others. But yeah, he needs to continue building on this foundation. Relying on guys like Gerald Green, Markieff Morris and PJ Tucker to get you into the playoffs isn't getting it done.

    I think we've got the #14, #18, and #29 this year. Gotta draft wisely or package a few of those picks for a star player. Suns can't rest or feel like they've succeeded because they got 48 wins out of an overachieving roster.
    With a young core, you have to be very careful which FA's/Trades you do. There are a lot of Rudy Gay's out there. Trades very rarely seem to be the answer, especially for a main piece IMO. Drafting is key and is even more critical with this new CBA. But you are right - as was Fuzzy with regards to things like the Kawhi trade. These things have long tails that are hard to judge. That is why EOY is a tough one. Do you judge based on what "should have happened" or "thoughts at the time the moves were made"? Or do you look at results? Do you look at future potential of the moves this year? Do you look at what's truly best for a franchise (barely making playoffs vs complete rebuild)?

    It's just tough.

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    You want me to pull up the thread from that time where you lamented that you wished SpursFan was more like ME?!

    I'm pissed. Its bull .

    Don't become just another SpursFan reveling wrong for the sake of fandom. I'm right, even if trolling, and while I openly acknowledge Buford is worthy, he's not this year, not like others, especially McDonough.
    I know that thread, too. I'm not saying that you ed then and I admired your reasonableness then; for that reason, I guess I just don't really get your reaction to this. You're certainly en led to your opinion, but your anger at this seems odd.

    At some point RC had to win this award, particularly given where the Spurs were in the spring of 2009, the spring of 2010, and the spring of 2011.

    To have rebuilt that team, which seemed clearly on its last legs and long past the window for legitimate le contention, into the group that plays for the Spurs now is an incredible feat. It surely can't diminish the accomplishment that the moves that facilitated yet another remaking of the Spurs came slowly and without much fanfare. And at some point, that accomplishment and the nearly two decades of effort that have preceded it simply has to be rewarded if the award itself is to mean anything.

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    I have no problem with Suns fans outside of Culburn. Dragic has to be the favorite and it's not even close tbh...

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