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Things seemed to go downhill once Divac fouled out. Probably not helped by the tantrum Vlade had, rolling on the ground, after that foul.
+1...lol 16-30 from the FT line at HOME in an overtime game. Couple that with the fact that outside of Mike Bibby, that entire team was deathly afraid of touching the ball in the final minutes.
Things seemed to go downhill once Divac fouled out. Probably not helped by the tantrum Vlade had, rolling on the ground, after that foul.
Kobe wasn't just as important as Shaq, Shaq was the most important, and Kobe was clearly #2.
Could they have won without Kobe? Of course not! You take a top 15 player away from a championship team and replace it with nothing, and they are not going to win. Period.
You remove Horry from the 2002 Lakers and they don't win. You take Drexler fro the 95 Rockets and they don't win. You remove Robinson from the 99 Spurs and they don't win. But does that mean they were just as important as Shaq, Hakeem and Duncan? NO!
So what specifically were flimsy? The ones where Christie specifically said you don't have to double Kobe because he's got him? Or the ones that said the Kings were not worried about Kobe but Shaq?
Killa you're not going to win this argument...no poster on this board has more Kobe/Laker-related posts than amb . He's tirelessly carried on his crusade for 5+ years, So i'd trust him on this matter. Gooks are persistent, as Vietnam and Korea taught us. Besides, Shaq was undoubtedly our #1 those years, but no way LA rings any of those years without Bean, either.
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Give Bobby Jackson some credit, he wasn't afraid of the moment. The rest of that team, though...
Oh, and 2-of-20 from three-point range, too.
This, not to sound butthurt but idk why that gets so overlooked compared to the Kings Lakers series. I guess the main reason was the egg DullASS!! laid against Miami but everyone knew that they were the better team.
The Kings are just another woulda coulda shoulda team that made it compe ive but came up short against a historical powerhouse on their way to a 3 peat (Indiana last year too). The Mavs actually went toe to toe against SA, took their best shot (I don't wanna hear any s talk about how the 05-06 team sucked, we weren't the same team blah blah blah), and topped them, blocking them from a 3peat.
Another thing is that there just wasn't much back and forth between the two teams. As nasty as the rivalry always felt on the court, I think the Spurs/Mavs actually mutually respected each other too much deep down to trade media blows. Whereas, LA legitimately thought the Kings had no business being on the court with them and the SAC butthurt that ensued made for some interesting drama.
Great to have a Laker fan admit Shaq was the undisputed #1, and Kobe was along for the ride
Victor Charlie, w/ the predictable comeback bads. Icing the 2000 Finals in the decisive game 4 aint along for the ride. Destroying the Kings and Spurs in b2b playoff years isnt along for the ride.
Along for the ride most closesly defines David Robinson, who was quite arguably the worst playoff performer of our time. Then he hitched his wagon to a real alpha and the rest is history.
DD, shuttin off det Ho Chi Minh trail, will ambchang find an alternate route?
:popcorn
Charlies dug in deep...probably hiding out in Laos, not far off the trail in some makeshift tunnel
I'll never forget that game 7, one of the most pathetic displays of basketball I've ever seen, tbh..
Even with the blatant rigging in game 6, it's tough to feel bad for Sacramento when they pulled a 6 for an entire game 7, tbh
It was clear that they were easily superior to the Lakers that year, but one team had a team full of alphas(Phil, Shaq, Kobe, Fisher, Horry), while the other team was led by moist pussies(Webber, Peja, Adelman)..
One of the best examples of Chris Webber being one of the most overrated players of my lifetime..
Wow, he had a few games where he fed off Shaq double and triple teams while scoring on Terry Porter and Steve Smith! Such a dominating player! By that logic, Robinson wasn't along for a ride in 99 either because he outscored Duncan in the Portland series with more assists, steals, and about the same number of rebounds and blocks.
Are you going to come with a parallel by citing how Kobe quit in 06 and claim victory on the argument?
Depends.
Are you going to come with a parallel by citing how Kobe quit in 06 and claim victory on the argument?
Is the dog wagging the tail...or is the tail wagging the dog?
I knew i could ruffle this slope's feathers by bringing up Robinson...never fails
Buh buh but gaize i like reading Corinthians on mah sports memorabilia
When did I say they did?
I don't want to get drawn into a month long argument with this guy but I
I knew i could ruffle this slope's feathers by bringing up Robinson...never fails
Buh buh but gaize i like reading Corinthians on mah sports memorabilia
Phil is just trolling with that one, 2006 was overblown
I don't want to get drawn into a month long argument with this guy but I
First shot, quick shot one on one
2nd shot, rebound then fast break dunk
3rd, wide opened for a pass from the inside with FOUR kings in the middle
then Shaq scored on a double, then Shaq scored on a triple and 1
4th Kobe went one on one with two guys around Shaq, refusing to leave him to help on Kobe
5th fast break layup after Horry rebound
6h Pic and roll with Shaq, tough shot over 3 Kings
7th, 1-1 with Christie while three kings were camped in the paint around Shaq
8th 2 guys on Shaq, with another two guys guarding a zone leaving Kobe wide open
9th 4 guys in the paint around Shaq, letting Kobe go one on one with a semi-wide open shot
10th, Kobe wide opened for 3, it was good ball movement though
Next one, Shaq was singled, guys came over to help Kobe and he had to give it up to a teammate for a layup. Wow, why did he not score on that one, I wonder
A bunch of Kobe passes, one with 4 guys converging on Shaq, and Shaq STILL scored
Kobe backup Christie one one one, then fouled.
Then Kobe was fouled by Bibby on a fast break, icing two FTs with the giant caption "5PTs 0FG in 4th and OT"
Want more?
2001's 36 pt game vs. the Spurs
1st shot: Shaq doubled Kobe WIDE open for 3
2nd, fast break layup
one on one with Daniels, help came, passed to Fisher for 3
Alleyoop to Shaq
Pass to Shaq for layup
1 on 1 pull up on Daniels' face
1 on 1 pull up on Daniels' face
Fast break
Fast break
Semi fast break
Duncan and Robinson both refused to help on Kobe because Shaq was there, Kobe scored
Fast break courtesy of Shaq outlet
1 on 1, again, Spurs refused to leave Shaq
Mismatch with Duncan
Again, duncan refused to leave Shaq
Rebounds after some helter skelter play
Just pick any random game from that era, you will see exactly the same played out over and over again.
DD Why you hiding? You haven't responded in more than 5 minutes.
Peja blew it in Game 7
I see plenty of one on one shots in your cherry picking.
Nobody is denying that Shaq was the MVP of that team but to say Kobe was "just along for the ride" is ridiculous
Man, this oral history is really missing Rappin' Shaq. Whatever happened to that account?
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