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    BigAg, BigChem will pay Congress/agencies for indefinite delay, the science isn't settled, "needs more study", ad nauseam.

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    Scientists had struggled to find the trigger for so-called Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD) that has wiped out an estimated 10 million beehives, worth $2 billion, over the past six years. Suspects have included pesticides, disease-bearing parasites and poor nutrition. But in a first-of-its-kind study published today in the journal PLOS ONE, scientists at the University of Maryland and the US Department of Agriculture have identified a witch’s brew of pesticides and fungicides contaminating pollen that bees collect to feed their hives. The findings break new ground on why large numbers of bees are dying though they do not identify the specific cause of CCD, where an entire beehive dies at once
    Smoking gun not found.

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    Smoking gun not found.
    "needs more study"

    imo, BigAg/BigChem are guility until proven innocent (as are all mega-corps). The bees are bee-ing wiped out, and we KNOW W/O doubt that x-icides are doing it.

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    Bee's are amazzzzzzing God bless

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    New Pesticide Labels Will Better Protect Bees and Other Pollinators

    In an ongoing effort to protect bees and other pollinators, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has developed new pesticide labels that prohibit use of some neonicotinoid pesticide products where bees are present.

    “Multiple factors play a role in bee colony declines, including pesticides. The Environmental Protection Agency is taking action to protect bees from pesticide exposure and these label changes will further our efforts,” said Jim Jones, assistant administrator for the Office of Chemical Safety and Pollution Prevention.

    http://yosemite.epa.gov/OPA/ADMPRESS.NSF/d0cf6618525a9efb85257359003fb69d/c186766df22b37d485257bc8005b0e64!OpenDo ent


    "neonicotinoid pesticide products where bees are present. " ??? Where are bees NOT present in agricultural areas?


    We'd NEVER see this from a Repug EPA, if the Repug would even let the EPA exist.

    What will tea baggers say about this labelling?

    "freedom"

    "take our country back"

    "2nd Amendment"

    "10th Amendment"

    "marans"



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    Why would anyone theses days put the word Scientist and the word Discover in the same sentence?

    And for the rest of you to ignore the obvious that this forum already posted months ago why the Bees are dying is either ignorance or poor research on your part.

    The only thing Science may have discovered lately is the political forum.

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    Follow the Honey: 7 Ways Pesticide Companies Are Spinning the Bee Crisis

    1. Pretending to care – PR blitz

    2. Creating distractions: Blame anything but pesticides

    3. Spinning science

    4. Buying credibility: Putting experts on payrolls and co-opting groups

    5. Blaming farmers

    6. Targeting children

    7. Attacking regulators

    http://www.alternet.org/food/follow-...age=1#bookmark



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    Why would anyone theses days put the word Scientist and the word Discover in the same sentence?

    And for the rest of you to ignore the obvious that this forum already posted months ago why the Bees are dying is either ignorance or poor research on your part.

    The only thing Science may have discovered lately is the political forum.
    Mouse discovers by stoking up the incense candles and meditating.
    Using this method he has discovered he lacks a spinal cord.

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    Pesticides, Not Mites, Cause Honeybee Colony Collapse


    Researchers racing to find the cause of Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD), which has been killing off honeybees in much of the U.S. and Europe, are zeroing in on the culprit. And — surprise — mites are apparently no longer suspects. But cold winters may be accomplices to the crime.

    Studying colonies of honeybees (Apis mellifera L.) at three locations in central Massachusetts during the 2012-13 winter, researchers found that two widely-used pesticides were directly responsible for the hive abandonment and death of several colonies. Comparing their results to previous research, the scientists noted that colder winters may aggravate the negative effects of the pesticides.

    Pesticide Spread

    For the study, appearing today in the Bulletin of Insectology, researchers monitored 18 bee colonies — six in each location — from October 2012 through April 2013. A third of the colonies were exposed to low doses of the pesticide imidacloprid, while another third were exposed to the pesticide clothianidin. Both pesticides belong to the neonicotinoid class and are commonly used in agriculture. The remainder of the colonies were left untreated.

    The numbers of bees declined in all 18 colonies with the onset of winter weather, which is the usual seasonal pattern.


    In January, however, while the control colony populations began to increase as expected, the number of bees in the treated colonies continued to decline. By April, 50 percent of the treated colonies had been wiped out, showing the hive abandonment pattern typical of CCD.


    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/d-...9#.U26IavldWTU

    BigChem and BigAg will obstruct any legislation that touches their pesticide profits, and buying enough Congressmen to do their dirty deeds.




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    How can cold winters be part of the problem?

    What ever happened to Global warming?

    Who would spray their hives with pesticides?

    My God...

    This is so laughable. A problem in so many places. Surely not everyone is spraying their hives with pesticides...

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    How can cold winters be part of the problem?

    What ever happened to Global warming?

    Who would spray their hives with pesticides?

    My God...

    This is so laughable. A problem in so many places. Surely not everyone is spraying their hives with pesticides...
    ask the bees, the weak, untainted ones apparently don't make it through the winter. Honey bees lives only about 4 months anyway.

    AGW continues apace.

    "colonies were exposed to low doses" doesn't mean spraying the hives. It could mean spraying the flowers in the immediate vicinity.



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    "colonies were exposed to low doses" doesn't mean spraying the hives.
    I didn't define see it define a level for low. Any smart bee keeper wouldn't be exposing bees at all.


    It could mean spraying the flowers in the immediate vicinity.
    Then the bees would just move on to other flowers. I guess if everything around them was sprayed, then they would leave the colony.

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    Thought they had it figured out already? Most modern planters use a vacuum system to plant corn. All corn is coated with different treatments for disease and insects. Not a problem until you use talc or graphite as a seed lubricant. The vac system blows this mixture up in the air. In Ontario they made it illegal to use talc or graphite, a new lubricant thats waxy is being used this year.

    New designs are simply funneling the vac system downward into the soil.

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    I didn't define see it define a level for low. Any smart bee keeper wouldn't be exposing bees at all.
    A greedy/lazy one would.
    Try finding a beekeeper who does not use pesticide.
    Few and far between.

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