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    Serious question: do you think this is the best Spurs team ever?
    oh jesus christ

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    It's easily the best supporting cast ever. The Medium Three and Diaw are so good that people actually believe the Big Three haven't fallen off as much as they have. This team is really special in how dependent everyone is on each other.
    The key is that trust can't fail in the playoffs where the closeouts will be faster and the shots will be tougher.

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    It can be argued last year's team was our best ever. We were a 99% favorite the last 30 seconds of that game to beat Miami, and if we had beat them they would have been the best team we ever beat. Duncan played an insane last two games, Tony was an MVP candidate all year, Spurs had the league's best defensive lineup (our starting lineup) and an offense that every team in the league tried to emulate.

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    It can be argued last year's team was our best ever. We were a 99% favorite the last 30 seconds of that game to beat Miami, and if we had beat them they would have been the best team we ever beat. Duncan played an insane last two games, Tony was an MVP candidate all year, Spurs had the league's best defensive lineup (our starting lineup) and an offense that every team in the league tried to emulate.
    Completely disagree. The 14 Miami team, who got raped by Dirk the season before is far from the best team we have faced, or beat.

    1) 3 Peat Lakers
    2) Pistons
    3) Mavericks

    those teams are much better than the 14 Heat and even the Suns are right there IMO
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    Ayres is not going to play in the playoffs, barring injury. I said it back then, and I think we're seeing that now. I do think Pop ran a bit longer than I thought with him, but it's clear he has the new "Dejuan Blair minute burner" role.

    Beli has come a long way, and I thought Patty has elevated his game since the RRT, especially while Tony was out. There's palpable growth within the system there, IMO, and some of these games against top teams have shown they can be counted on when it matters, which was not always the case last season. We're always going to be reliant on our Big 4 (TP/TD/Manu/Kawhi) and secondary Big 3 (Green/Splitter/Diaw)... but all teams rely on their best players, so nothing new there.



    I think they should be appreciated exactly because they don't have a top 5 player. I think the bar of "championship or bust" effectively changed when we stopped having a top 5 player, it's what happens to most every team.

    But there's no need to be scared. They got game, and the league itself isn't full of world-beaters these days.
    Given the amount of opportunity they've given Ayres this season, they clearly want him to be the fourth big, but whether they'll need one is match-up dependent. If they get the Grizzlies, they will. If they get the Mavs, they won't.

    Neither Belinelli nor Mills has come a long way this season, since both essentially started off at the level they're playing now . . . depth and chemistry aren't in question though, as they've clearly got the best of both in the league.

    No one appreciates this team more than me, but that doesn't mean I have to be satisfied with anything less than a championship either. They themselves aren't and I don't know why so many of the fans are. Despite the presence of anything playing at a top ten level, when you have a team this good, that should be the bar.

    Again, I'm not scared; I'm realistic. Unless Parker and/or Duncan play at least close to last season's level, they're not beating the Thunder or Heat in a series.

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    Again, I'm not scared; I'm realistic. Unless Parker and/or Duncan play at least close to last season's level, they're not beating the Thunder or Heat in a series.
    This point is overused and in my opinion not true. Kawhi. Patty. Manu. Marco. Boris. All of these guys have picked up the slack tremendously this season, and we no longer need Parker to give us 25 & 8 to win a game any given night. Finals game are often decided by role players stepping up and creating big moments. This team gets it done offensively by spreading the ball, creating/exploiting weaknesses and mismatches, and constant movement. There's no hero ball on this team. Last year, I'm sure Pop would go up to Tony and say 'We need 30&10 tonight' and he'd go out there and try to carry the team. This year it's not like that. The last two minutes of a game, I'm comfortable with any of the big three handling the ball and creating plays. The Spurs are a unique team. We will live and die by the way we have played this season, and if you think we will try and win another way you will be end up being dissapointed.

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    Given the amount of opportunity they've given Ayres this season, they clearly want him to be the fourth big, but whether they'll need one is match-up dependent. If they get the Grizzlies, they will. If they get the Mavs, they won't.
    We're rolling with Tiago/Diaw/TD. I actually think it's going to be the exact opposite: if they need a big body (ie: vs Grizzlies), they'll go with Baynes first. If they can get away playing small, they'll just play small. That effectively makes Ayres the 5th big.

    Obviously, he might see the floor if there's garbage time, like DeJuan did. Playoffs are around the corner, we'll see soon enough.

    Neither Belinelli nor Mills has come a long way this season, since both essentially started off at the level they're playing now . . . depth and chemistry aren't in question though, as they've clearly got the best of both in the league.
    Well, chemistry and comfort level do matter. Some players get opportunities and don't elevate their game. These two guys did. Patty almost doubled his +/- since the ASG, and only received an extra 3 mins on the floor compared to pre-ASG. Marco did the same thing, but basically getting the same minutes. They're obviously not as important as our other top guys, but due to injury or foul trouble, they're great players to have, and they fit like a glove into what we're trying to run out there.

    No one appreciates this team more than me, but that doesn't mean I have to be satisfied with anything less than a championship either. They themselves aren't and I don't know why so many of the fans are. Despite the presence of anything playing at a top ten level, when you have a team this good, that should be the bar.

    Again, I'm not scared; I'm realistic. Unless Parker and/or Duncan play at least close to last season's level, they're not beating the Thunder or Heat in a series.
    Because winning a championship is hard. There are no lock or guarantees. A bunch of teams have top 5 players, and only one of them will win the championship. Does that automatically make the other contenders not good/not great/flawed? Of course not.

    Winning it all is a completely different story. From the whistles to injuries, to a bad rebound, luck... lots of stuff out of a team's control can derail a season.

    The Spurs goal is a championship, and to be a contender they had to play at an elite level. That was under their control, and they've done it again this season. That's all you can ask for. Now they're gonna go to battle and hopefully they can sustain that and all the other stuff doesn't get in the way.

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    This point is overused and in my opinion not true. Kawhi. Patty. Manu. Marco. Boris. All of these guys have picked up the slack tremendously this season, and we no longer need Parker to give us 25 & 8 to win a game any given night. Finals game are often decided by role players stepping up and creating big moments. This team gets it done offensively by spreading the ball, creating/exploiting weaknesses and mismatches, and constant movement. There's no hero ball on this team. Last year, I'm sure Pop would go up to Tony and say 'We need 30&10 tonight' and he'd go out there and try to carry the team. This year it's not like that. The last two minutes of a game, I'm comfortable with any of the big three handling the ball and creating plays. The Spurs are a unique team. We will live and die by the way we have played this season, and if you think we will try and win another way you will be end up being dissapointed.
    True too. Battier came through for Miami last Finals. Same thing for Mike Miller and Rio in some games. Even the Spurs had to rely on Danny making shots. At some point your top guys are going to get tied up, and you're going to need other guys to make plays.

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    This point is overused and in my opinion not true. Kawhi. Patty. Manu. Marco. Boris. All of these guys have picked up the slack tremendously this season, and we no longer need Parker to give us 25 & 8 to win a game any given night. Finals game are often decided by role players stepping up and creating big moments. This team gets it done offensively by spreading the ball, creating/exploiting weaknesses and mismatches, and constant movement. There's no hero ball on this team. Last year, I'm sure Pop would go up to Tony and say 'We need 30&10 tonight' and he'd go out there and try to carry the team. This year it's not like that. The last two minutes of a game, I'm comfortable with any of the big three handling the ball and creating plays. The Spurs are a unique team. We will live and die by the way we have played this season, and if you think we will try and win another way you will be end up being dissapointed.
    It can't be overused, because there's nothing more central to winning a championship in this league than that. It's not possible to win without it, no matter how good the depth, IQ, coaching, etc., is.

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    Still say that. Splitter sucks.
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    that, Spurs better win it all or they're going down as chokers.
    Damm it Mexicano, you are a ing idiot.

    ST is overrun by assholes . . .

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    Well, they did find their best form since Game 7 against Dallas... now it's all about hoping their best is better than another team's best...

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    you guys defending the spurs are delusional, the spurs have yet to beat a good team this season. same ol spurs getting the 1 seed by beating garbage teams. who have we beat this season? no one. these games matter to at least make a statement.
    HINT......You are the one that is delusional! You are saying that the SPURS played garbage teams all season????? LMAO.....tell me how they got to the playoffs??????

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    They played garbage teams. And Spurs defense is still terrible. Amd you're also a got.

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    They played garbage teams. And Spurs defense is still terrible. Amd you're also a got.
    LOL!!!! Get your dander up???? I am a woman!!!! LMAO!!!!!

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    regular season doesn't mean . The rockets swept the spurs and got beat by the team the spurs are currently defecating on.

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    You're still a got. And an obnoxious one at that.

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    [QUOTE=robdiaz2191;7320822]You're still a got. And an obnoxious one at that.[/QUOTE

    If you are not a Spurs Fan, why are you on this site, spewing ????
    Still L M A O!!!!!

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    Who said I wasn't a Spurs fan?

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    Who said I wasn't a Spurs fan?
    Well.....what are you?

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    A Spurs fan?

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    you guys defending the spurs are delusional, the spurs have yet to beat a good team this season. same ol spurs getting the 1 seed by beating garbage teams. who have we beat this season? no one. these games matter to at least make a statement.
    olllllllllll ball coach after det one per par

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    Well.....what are you?
    He's a cliffjumper who can't do it properly. Kinda like...


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    Hold me back Splits. Hold me back.

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