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    Boy, you sure are confident. Losing Ibaka makes things easier for the Spurs offensively but remember, they still have Sefalosha who can give Parker trouble (in addition to his injury). Also, any of their scrubs can go off against the Spurs. Last but not least, they got the refs on their side. I think the Spurs will win but in no way is it gonna be easy.
    I never said it would be easy. But Ibaka's loss completely changes the way the Thunder can guard the Spurs now. And I'm not sure how much Sefalosha can play before it kills their spacing without Ibaka on the court. More Sefalosha is actually a good thing for the Spurs. And the offciating would have to be embarrassingly one-sided if the league really wanted OKC to advance so that doesn't bother me

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    What a made thread tbh

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    Celebrating the loss of another team's key player is a chicken move. But that's why this is a site for fans I suppose. The Spurs won't be celebrating the loss of Ibaka and OKC will likely claw harder knowing he's not there.

    Would losing Splitter make us think we couldn't beat OKC? Fans lose perspective sometimes.

    Not celebrating but I do not feel bad for OKC. Spurs had two possible championships maybe 3 taken away because of injury at wrong time.

    TD's meniscus in 2000, Manu's elbow a few years ago and Parkers injury in game one in last year's Finals are examples, so if SA can take advantage of Ibaka's loss to propel them to their long awaited 5th ring, I'm good with that.

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    I never said it would be easy. But Ibaka's loss completely changes the way the Thunder can guard the Spurs now. And I'm not sure how much Sefalosha can play before it kills their spacing without Ibaka on the court. More Sefalosha is actually a good thing for the Spurs. And the offciating would have to be embarrassingly one-sided if the league really wanted OKC to advance so that doesn't bother me
    You just said it would be an upset to you if the series went more than 5 games. If you think that little of MVP, Westbrook, Fisher (Spurs killer), Sefalosha (best perimeter defender), Collison/Adams (great at crashing the boards and getting offensive putbacks) and RJ (No not that RJ), who the Spurs haven't stopped in any of the four games, maybe you need a bit of a reality check.

    Ibakas's loss hurts but it doesn't cripple them.

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    You just said it would be an upset to you if the series went more than 5 games. If you think that little of MVP, Westbrook, Fisher (Spurs killer), Sefalosha (best perimeter defender), Collison/Adams (great at crashing the boards and getting offensive putbacks) and RJ (No not that RJ), who the Spurs haven't stopped in any of the four games, maybe you need a bit of a reality check.

    Ibakas's loss hurts but it doesn't cripple them.
    You're scared of Sefalosha, Fisher, Collison and Adams. You probably thought that the Grizzlies were going to beat the Spurs last year too.

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    You're scared of Sefalosha, Fisher, Collison and Adams. You probably thought that the Grizzlies were going to beat the Spurs last year too.

    You don't watch many Spurs/Thunder games do you?

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    You don't watch many Spurs/Thunder games do you?

    Nope it doesn't seem like you do.

    We handle everyone fine, except Ibaka.

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    You don't watch many Spurs/Thunder games do you?
    I do, which is why I understand just how big a hole Ibaka's loss is blown into their gameplan. I can't say the same about you if you think 40-year-old Fisher and some scrub rookie are gonna replace his contribution this isn't the regular season

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    I do, which is why I understand just how big a hole Ibaka's loss is blown into their gameplan. I can't say the same about you if you think 40-year-old Fisher and some scrub rookie are gonna replace his contribution this isn't the regular season
    How many points did Reggie Jackson average again against he Spurs? How many points have Westbrook and Durant been averaging against the Spurs defense? How many big shots has Derek Fisher had against the Spurs? How many offensive rebounds do Collison and Adams get at the rim?

    Yeah, I remember some of these same comments back in 2012. The year the Spurs were so-called untouchable. That was prior to the backdoor sweep and before 2/3's of Spurstalk disappeared for the better part of 6 months. Yeah, I'm not so sure you do watch many Spurs/Thunder games.

    Like I said, the Ibaka injury hurts but doesn't cripple them. I'm sure if the Surs lose though, all the talk will shift toward the refs and how they stole the series away from the Spurs. That's just how this forum rolls.

    I'm so glad you think this series will be easy

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    How many points did Reggie Jackson average again against he Spurs? How many points have Westbrook and Durant been averaging against the Spurs defense? How many big shots has Derek Fisher had against the Spurs? How many offensive rebounds do Collison and Adams get at the rim?

    Yeah, I remember some of these same comments back in 2012. The year the Spurs were so-called untouchable. That was prior to the backdoor sweep and before 2/3's of Spurstalk disappeared for the better part of 6 months. Yeah, I'm not so sure you do watch many Spurs/Thunder games.

    Like I said, the Ibaka injury hurts but doesn't cripple them. I'm sure if the Surs lose though, all the talk will shift toward the refs and how they stole the series away from the Spurs. That's just how this forum rolls.

    I'm so glad you think this series will be easy
    I said Spurs in 5, I didn't say anything about it being easy. Not with KD and Westbrook on the otherside. But with homecourt, more depth, the absence of the Thunder's most athletic interior defender and a better ability to execute late in games are reasons I said Spurs in 5. Just because a series last only five games doesn't automatically mean the victory was easy. And the 2012 WCF is a terribke reference to use because the two players who were huge factors in OKC winning four straight against SA aren't playing in this series.

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    I said Spurs in 5, I didn't say anything about it being easy. Not with KD and Westbrook on the otherside. But with homecourt, more depth, the absence of the Thunder's most athletic interior defender and a better ability to execute late in games are reasons I said Spurs in 5. Just because a series last only five games doesn't automatically mean the victory was easy. And the 2012 WCF is a terribke reference to use because the two players who were huge factors in OKC winning four straight against SA aren't playing in this series.
    Duncan, Manu and Parker aren't playing at their 2012 levels either (not even close). The bench is hit or miss. They severely underperformed against an experienced laden team in Dallas and excelled against a very inexperienced team in Portland. The Spurs played two terrible defensive teams and the late game execution was spotty at best. In the blowouts, there was no need for late game execution. You're just not giving the Thunder enough credit. 5 games against the Thunder sounds pretty easy to me regardless of the scores. I'll be shocked if this series doesn't go 6.

    Btw, the refs alone should account for at least one Thunder win. LOL!!!

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    The bottom line is that without Ibaka to backstop them, the Thunder aren't much different from the Blazers. You have two extremely talented offensive players, and pretty much an open door to the basket when you have the ball. The guys they're replacing him with aren't scrubs, but they ain't Ibaka. They may not even be as good as Lopez and Thomas Robinson.

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    The bottom line is that without Ibaka to backstop them, the Thunder aren't much different from the Blazers. You have two extremely talented offensive players, and pretty much an open door to the basket when you have the ball. The guys they're replacing him with aren't scrubs, but they ain't Ibaka. They may not even be as good as Lopez and Thomas Robinson.

    Lopez is much better basket defender than Adams or Perk

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    Lopez is much better basket defender than Adams or Perk
    And he didn't keep us from scoring at the rim.

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    The bottom line is that without Ibaka to backstop them, the Thunder aren't much different from the Blazers. You have two extremely talented offensive players, and pretty much an open door to the basket when you have the ball. The guys they're replacing him with aren't scrubs, but they ain't Ibaka. They may not even be as good as Lopez and Thomas Robinson.
    Having the league MVP and a PG that just is averaging nearly a triple double in the playoffs is equivalent to the Blazers?

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    Having the league MVP and a PG that just is averaging nearly a triple double in the playoffs is equivalent to the Blazers?
    All offense, no D, so yes, without Serge, they're similar to Portland. I didn't say equivalent, you did.

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    Duncan, Manu and Parker aren't playing at their 2012 levels either (not even close). The bench is hit or miss. They severely underperformed against an experienced laden team in Dallas and excelled against a very inexperienced team in Portland. The Spurs played two terrible defensive teams and the late game execution was spotty at best. In the blowouts, there was no need for late game execution. You're just not giving the Thunder enough credit. 5 games against the Thunder sounds pretty easy to me regardless of the scores. I'll be shocked if this series doesn't go 6.

    Btw, the refs alone should account for at least one Thunder win. LOL!!!
    I really agree on that last part, that always rings true against that Thunder team.

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    Can't wait to see Manu be Heat MVP again....

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    Can't wait to see Manu be Heat MVP again....
    IF the SPURS make it there. I hope he is not their MVP though again, that sucked.

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    How many points did Reggie Jackson average again against he Spurs? How many points have Westbrook and Durant been averaging against the Spurs defense? How many big shots has Derek Fisher had against the Spurs? How many offensive rebounds do Collison and Adams get at the rim?

    Yeah, I remember some of these same comments back in 2012. The year the Spurs were so-called untouchable. That was prior to the backdoor sweep and before 2/3's of Spurstalk disappeared for the better part of 6 months. Yeah, I'm not so sure you do watch many Spurs/Thunder games.

    Like I said, the Ibaka injury hurts but doesn't cripple them. I'm sure if the Surs lose though, all the talk will shift toward the refs and how they stole the series away from the Spurs. That's just how this forum rolls.

    I'm so glad you think this series will be easy
    , lemme stop you right there. How many points did Lillard and Aldridge average against us in the regular season?

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    Can't wait to see Manu be Heat MVP again....
    Yeah , change that avatar already.

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    How many points did Reggie Jackson average again against he Spurs? How many points have Westbrook and Durant been averaging against the Spurs defense? How many big shots has Derek Fisher had against the Spurs? How many offensive rebounds do Collison and Adams get at the rim?

    Yeah, I remember some of these same comments back in 2012. The year the Spurs were so-called untouchable. That was prior to the backdoor sweep and before 2/3's of Spurstalk disappeared for the better part of 6 months. Yeah, I'm not so sure you do watch many Spurs/Thunder games.

    Like I said, the Ibaka injury hurts but doesn't cripple them. I'm sure if the Surs lose though, all the talk will shift toward the refs and how they stole the series away from the Spurs. That's just how this forum rolls.

    I'm so glad you think this series will be easy
    Butler and Lamb are also good bench players.

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    All offense, no D, so yes, without Serge, they're similar to Portland. I didn't say equivalent, you did.
    They will be disrupting the passing lanes and getting turnovers much better than Portland so they will be better.

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    Spur fans will be very surprised in how difficult this series is still going to be when they drop game 1.

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    Spur fans will be very surprised in how difficult this series is still going to be when they drop game 1.
    Son, are you going to be pissed that whole season of tanking only lands you guys the #6 pick and Marcus Smart?

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