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    I had a feeling after watching him play a few times that Russell Wilson was going to be a star in the NFL, he was the total package, he could do it all. I didn't get that feeling with RGIII, he didn;t have that touch, he ran too much, he didn't seem to give things a chance before off he went.

    I've seen Manzeil play a half dozen times, I get the feeling he's football smarter and has better touch than RGIII. Obviously he's no Russell Wilson and won't be but I can see him being an NFL QB if he cools the Fran Tarkenton impersonation, he's too frail to being pulling that at this level. Sure move around but cool the running bull .

    Hmmmm....come to think about it Tarkenton did just move around, he wasn't actually a runner so shine that bull .

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    Why is Ray Rice being treated like a wife beater? Damn we live in a sensitive ing time. Redskins...is offensive? Saying...don't bring black guys to the game....is that serious? How would any of these sensitive s make it here?
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    manziel moved a lot less his soph year. you could tell he was already working on his pro transition after winning the heisman with his feet.

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    court of public opinion don't care
    court of public opinion don't give a
    You'd know about nobody giving a little man.
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=193995

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    Why is Ray Rice being treated like a wife beater? Damn we live in a sensitive ing time.
    Seriously, you're the dumbest poster on this entire messageboard.

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    Why is Ray Rice being treated like a wife beater?
    "Re ed" is an understatement for you....

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    Seriously, you're the dumbest poster on this entire messageboard.
    I'll go slow little man...

    Do you know what a wife beater is? Ya don't do ya idiot?

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    you don't know me

    you don't know what i'm capable of.
    How about threads nobody gives a about?

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    "Re ed" is an understatement for you....
    So you don't know what a wife beater is either, why am I not surprised?

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    So you don't know what a wife beater is either, why am I not surprised?
    He beat a woman, and as a result, is being treated like someone who beat a woman.... why exactly should we be surprised or outraged at that?

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    He beat a woman, and as a result, is being treated like someone who beat a woman.... why exactly should we be surprised or outraged at that?
    I "once" put on the gloves in the navy and boxed a couple rounds, does that make me a boxer? I tried golf "once" does that make me a golfer?

    Dude, nobody should be as ing dumb as you are. A wife beater is someone with a history of banging his wife around.....ok little guy?

    This sound like Ray Rice to you?


    http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...Woman%20Beater

    Ray Rice hit his wife, that doesn't make him a wife beater, ok half pint?
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    I "once" put on the gloves in the navy and boxed a couple rounds, does that make me a boxer? I tried golf "once" does that make me a golfer?

    Dude, nobody should be as ing dumb as you are. A wife beater is someone with a history of banging his wife around.....ok little guy?

    This sound like Ray Rice to you?


    http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...Woman%20Beater

    Ray Rice hit his wife, that doesn't make him a wife beater, ok half pint?
    So if I murder someone, am I a murderer? I don't have a long history of it

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    Are you a child rapist because you ed multiple underage southeast asians?

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    So if I murder someone, am I a murderer? I don't have a long history of it
    Only an idiot would think a one shot deal like that makes Ray Rice a wife beater. You can get sloppy ass drunk, that doesn't mean you're a drunk.

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    Only an idiot would think a one shot deal like that makes Ray Rice a wife beater. You can get sloppy ass drunk, that doesn't mean you're a drunk.
    Then should one time murderers get another chance because it was only the first time and there was no history?

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    Are you a child rapist because you ed multiple underage southeast asians?
    There ya go a perfect example right there of not understanding . You cannot "rape" professional hookers over there ya see little man they are of age. So make some attempt at knowing what you're talking about ..ok? Ya see stupid they have different laws over there, honest they do.

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    Then should one time murderers get another chance because it was only the first time and there was no history?
    Who said anything about given chances? Are you paying any attention at all? I said that Ray Rice doesn't qualify as a wife beater. No more than a dog biting someone that kicked them. Is he now a vicious dangerous beast?

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    I never would consider myself siding with Avante, but it's true you can't really classify someone as a wife beater for just one isolated incident that occurred: it'd be like saying someone is a Hollywood movie star if they starred in one obscure movie over their whole career, it's not exactly the truth.

    If Ray had a history of abuse against women then yes, he could be classified as a "wife beater", but it was one drunken outing he regrets. Ray Rice is a man of great character who made a mistake and he knows that, so lumping him in with a class of people who live abusive lives on a regular basis is unfair. I was very upset when I found out about what happened with him, but you can tell that he regrets it and he has done a lot of things to ensure that it wouldn't happen again. Everyone makes mistakes, sometimes worse than others, but Ray Rice's track record is more positive than on the negative.

    Then should one time murderers get another chance because it was only the first time and there was no history?
    There's a hierarchy of what one would consider a murderer versus someone who murdered another. All of it is terrible but you cannot deny that a murderer of 100 is substantially different than someone who killed just one.

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    How the do you know anything about Ray Rice's character? You could tell from all the times you saw him on tv? He dragged his wife out of an elevator IN ING PUBLIC IN ATLANTIC CITY. Quit making ing excuses for him.

    “I do deeply regret the role I played in the incident that night,”
    He can't even apologize right.

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    I'll go slow little man...

    Do you know what a wife beater is? Ya don't do ya idiot?
    What's the legal definition of "wife beater"?

    Go slow so that I can keep up.

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    I never would consider myself siding with Avante, but it's true you can't really classify someone as a wife beater for just one isolated incident that occurred: it'd be like saying someone is a Hollywood movie star if they starred in one obscure movie over their whole career, it's not exactly the truth.

    If Ray had a history of abuse against women then yes, he could be classified as a "wife beater", but it was one drunken outing he regrets. Ray Rice is a man of great character who made a mistake and he knows that, so lumping him in with a class of people who live abusive lives on a regular basis is unfair. I was very upset when I found out about what happened with him, but you can tell that he regrets it and he has done a lot of things to ensure that it wouldn't happen again. Everyone makes mistakes, sometimes worse than others, but Ray Rice's track record is more positive than on the negative.



    There's a hierarchy of what one would consider a murderer versus someone who murdered another. All of it is terrible but you cannot deny that a murderer of 100 is substantially different than someone who killed just one.
    How many times does he have to beat his wife to be a wife beater?

    Give a number.

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    You can get sloppy ass drunk, that doesn't mean you're a drunk.
    seriously...your intelligence is lower than anyone else I've come across on this board.

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    Domestic Violence is no laughing matter.

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    How the do you know anything about Ray Rice's character? You could tell from all the times you saw him on tv? He dragged his wife out of an elevator IN ING PUBLIC IN ATLANTIC CITY. Quit making ing excuses for him.

    He can't even apologize right.
    You'll probably find it funny but he's really polite and well-mannered to his fans, meet and greets, his Facebook, interviews, do entaries — he's a well-educated man without a history of violence who came from a crazy background. This was a big deal because he has never done anything of the sort before. Aldon Smith on the other hand, gets himself in a lot of trouble all of the time so it isn't nearly as big of news as when someone who is new to bad events gets caught up in one.

    I'm not making an excuse, but I am a forgiving person usually, everyone s up pretty bad in their life sometimes, it'd be awful to hold it against them if they feel terrible for their actions.

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    How many times does he have to beat his wife to be a wife beater?

    Give a number.
    I'd say multiple instances counts as a wife beater. If he did it twice, yeah, sure. I'll buy that. One time doesn't make anybody anything. You make an A on a test you aren't a genius in the subject, one time instances are sometimes brought on by strange events. Life is weird like that.

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    I'd say multiple instances counts as a wife beater. If he did it twice, yeah, sure. I'll buy that. One time doesn't make anybody anything. You make an A on a test you aren't a genius in the subject, one time instances are sometimes brought on by strange events. Life is weird like that.
    Eh, some things in life are bad enough to brand you forever even if you do them just once.... murder, child molestation, and beating a woman are high on that list, tbh....

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