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    these arguments are awful, per par, tbh..

    Shooting 3s doesn't work and that's why there are "so few" contenders, yet the Heat and Spurs, 2 3-point shooting teams, were in the Finals last year and are favored to be in the Finals again..

    There's nothing wrong with enjoying the previous eras, my ..it just means you are a big fan of ISO-ball/limited ball movement..that's fine, everybody enjoys their own style of basketball..

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    I agree. There were so many prolific players in 1999-2007, and TD was the best of the best. And the Spurs won 4 les. Easy choice.
    It was also an era where a well balanced team could actually win championships, see Detroit and in some years, the Spurs. If it wasn't for the Sacramento refs fiasco in 2002 and Portland's meltdown in Game 7 against the Lakers, we could potentially add those two teams as NBA Champions. To me the last great basketball team to win a le was the 2008 Celtics, they didn't rely on one player like most championship groups, there were no fancy stat lines from a single player dominating the teams stat sheet. After that it was more ISO ball with the Lakers and Kobe, Lebron and Miami. Understandably, Lebron's approach is obviously different but the concept is the same. One player willfully trying to carry a team.



    2014 Spurs could be the next one.

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    In response to the OP, I'm not completely sure but I'm going to say Gene Conley (3.82).

    Nope, Steve Hamilton's was better.
    Last edited by ChumpDumper; 05-25-2014 at 10:39 AM. Reason: Research!

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    these arguments are awful, per par, tbh..

    Shooting 3s doesn't work and that's why there are "so few" contenders, yet the Heat and Spurs, 2 3-point shooting teams, were in the Finals last year and are favored to be in the Finals again..
    True.... the problem some teams have isn't with threes, it's with lack of offensive diversity.... taking threes is fine, but in moderation - same with any other type of scoring....

    The best offenses in today's era move the ball in order to spread the opposing defense, move off the ball to help facilitate ball movement and tire out individual defenders (JJ Re is especially good at the latter), and can beat you with a mix of threes, midrange shots, layups, dunks, hook shots, etc. without relying too much on one type of shot....

    Not hard to see why Kirbystan hates this era, they're so desperate for their messiah's brand of selfish iso-chucking to be legitimized instead of mocked and phased out....

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    80's obviously. Lakers vs Celtics was the best rivalry of all time.
    Either the Lakers or Celtics would beat any team in this years playoffs.

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    The current era of basketball is the best era. People forget that the awful basketball of the 1990s is what instigated all of the rule changes to help facilitate offense. That ugliness was covered up because everyone was so focused on Jordan worship. Once he was gone, the league realized it was left with a ty product and had to act to fix it. The game has been sped up, and defenses actually have to use strategy as they are no longer allowed to maul offensive players.

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    The current era of basketball is the best era. People forget that the awful basketball of the 1990s is what instigated all of the rule changes to help facilitate offense. That ugliness was covered up because everyone was so focused on Jordan worship. Once he was gone, the league realized it was left with a ty product and had to act to fix it. The game has been sped up, and defenses actually have to use strategy as they are no longer allowed to maul offensive players.
    I agree with this...

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    The current era of basketball is the best era. People forget that the awful basketball of the 1990s is what instigated all of the rule changes to help facilitate offense. That ugliness was covered up because everyone was so focused on Jordan worship. Once he was gone, the league realized it was left with a ty product and had to act to fix it. The game has been sped up, and defenses actually have to use strategy as they are no longer allowed to maul offensive players.
    Yeah because rip through moves have made the game better. Ref reliant players have ruined it. No way is this era the best.

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    You have too many stars who play offense only in today's game.

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    these arguments are awful, per par, tbh..

    Shooting 3s doesn't work and that's why there are "so few" contenders, yet the Heat and Spurs, 2 3-point shooting teams, were in the Finals last year and are favored to be in the Finals again..

    There's nothing wrong with enjoying the previous eras, my ..it just means you are a big fan of ISO-ball/limited ball movement..that's fine, everybody enjoys their own style of basketball..
    Again you apparently do not get it. Spurs and Heat have low post games and do not depend solely on the three point shot.

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    True.... the problem some teams have isn't with threes, it's with lack of offensive diversity.... taking threes is fine, but in moderation - same with any other type of scoring....

    The best offenses in today's era move the ball in order to spread the opposing defense, move off the ball to help facilitate ball movement and tire out individual defenders (JJ Re is especially good at the latter), and can beat you with a mix of threes, midrange shots, layups, dunks, hook shots, etc. without relying too much on one type of shot....

    Not hard to see why Kirbystan hates this era, they're so desperate for their messiah's brand of selfish iso-chucking to be legitimized instead of mocked and phased out....
    You constantly complain about the refs and all the free throws Durant and other teams get yet today's era is the best

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    I personally loved the Magic-Bird era and though the Lakers and/or Celtics were in the finals for a lot of it, there were some other great teams that challenged them plenty.

    The main reason I like that era is that the overall talent base wasn't as watered down before expansion came along in 1988.

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    You constantly complain about the refs and all the free throws Durant and other teams get yet today's era is the best
    Durbeta and Harden are too ref-reliant, but let's not pretend like superstar calls are a new invention

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    The 80s were cool, but not much parity, same with 60s. A lot of fast paced games, but the same couple teams winning every year or so. The 70s had a lot of parity, but I admittedly don't know too much about this era. The 90s were alright, but probably the most boring basktetball. I'd say, and with open bias, that late 90s to mid to late 00s were the best. A lot of parity during that period, plus a lot of talent, albeit a result of rapid spread/acceptance of HGH use

    The LeBron era is garbage tbh more people than ever are getting bored with the nba and can't wait for the NFL to come back
    no one likes LeBron
    fraud

    tee hee

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    The main reason I like that era is that the overall talent base wasn't as watered down before expansion came along in 1988.
    Less is more tbh hopefully the NFL doesn't expand more

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    The LeBron era.... ball movement, unselfish team play and intelligent team defense is taking over....

    Nostalgia gots would rather go back to the dark ages of one player chucking long twos every possession while the rest of the team stands around and watches, while hard fouls are what passes for defense
    Nation just regurgitating whatever Harlem says, but less coherently
    Harlem repeating himself 10000x about how much he hates the 90s
    we get it, you love sucking off LeBron, and you hate "Dad Killer"

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    The 90s was by far the ugliest brand of basketball in history, tbh..it is remembered fondly for nostalgic reasons due to the NBA being at peak marketing + Dad Killer + NBC + big East Coast markets running the league..

    It was all isolation basketball with minimal ball movement and teamwork..it was all handchecking and Rileyball on defense, too..

    The NBA at the moment has more ball movement than any period since the 80s, and arguably even more so than the 80s, since all the ISO-oriented coaches are currently being phased out of the game..the game is much more entertaining to watch, yet the fans complain and miss the era of selfish, ugly basketball..
    Solid take. I think some people prefer a superstar oriented show over a team oriented show. I prefer to see a team perform over seeing a player perform, but don't get me wrong... I'm still amazed when a true transcendent player emerges and there are few and far in between. In the meantime there are plenty posers who just shoot the ball too much.

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    Another GNSF regurgitating the same anti-LeBron butthurt from upstairs

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    Either the Lakers or Celtics would beat any team in this years playoffs.
    Prove it

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    Another GNSF regurgitating the same anti-LeBron butthurt from upstairs
    Seems like we had a disagreement earlier in the season about whether or not the Clips would ever see the WCF this year. I called them posers and you said they were legit. Are you now switching teams?

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    Seems like we had a disagreement earlier in the season about whether or not the Clips would ever see the WCF this year. I called them posers and you said they were legit. Are you now switching teams?
    With Choke Paul leading the team, they were hardly a lock to make it out of the first round

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    The 2011 Heat were an example of boring, isolation basketball that resembled 90s-2000s ball, full of isolation basketball and physical defense..Spoelstra admitted that they did not work on their offense, at all, in their first season together, relying solely on the talents of Lebron/Wade..

    In contrast, the 2011 Mavs were one of the most entertaining teams I have ever seen, they ushered in the new era of NBA ball IMO..mobile defenders with a complicated zone defense that required all-around defensive efforts, along with an unselfish superstar that agreed to play in an offensive system that promoted ball-movement, spacing and 3-point shooting..

    The 2012 and 2013 Heat have followed suit, along with the 2013 and 2014 Spurs, the new Clippers, etc..moving the ball and playing elite team defense, rather than ugly, isolation, selfish basketball with vanilla schemes that we saw for most of the 90s and 2000s..

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    The 2011 Heat were an example of boring, isolation basketball that resembled 90s-2000s ball, full of isolation basketball and physical defense..Spoelstra admitted that they did not work on their offense, at all, in their first season together, relying solely on the talents of Lebron/Wade..

    In contrast, the 2011 Mavs were one of the most entertaining teams I have ever seen, they ushered in the new era of NBA ball IMO..mobile defenders with a complicated zone defense that required all-around defensive efforts, along with an unselfish superstar that agreed to play in an offensive system that promoted ball-movement, spacing and 3-point shooting..

    The 2012 and 2013 Heat have followed suit, along with the 2013 and 2014 Spurs, the new Clippers, etc..moving the ball and playing elite team defense, rather than ugly, isolation, selfish basketball with vanilla schemes that we saw for most of the 90s and 2000s..
    The Heat lost in 2011 because LeBron choked 4 straight games and was saved by Allen in 6.

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    Kirbystan bringing the same takes in 2014 that Skip Bayless got destroyed by Cuban with in 2012

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