Oklahoma City just set an NBA record..

[jARS mEsH sEt]

I mean in the first half I think the Spurs had a 6 FTA to 2 FTA advantage and I was still posting about how I was shocked that the Spurs were blatantly getting the OKC treatment from the refs. I don't wait for free throw disparities to be large in favor of the other team before complaining about the refs.

[poop]

the Spurs had a great whistle in the 1st half... refs didn't make them shoot 38% (some wide-open looks), and didn't make them turn the ball over... ing about the refs is a non-starter too, since there's nothing the Spurs can do about it. What they can do is rebound the ball, make the open shots and take care of the ball... that wins games, no matter what the whistle looks like.

Complete bull . Complete denial. None of os want to admit the nba can resemble the WWF at times...but it does. Just admit it. Sometimes a certain team gets favored

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And LMAO at these guys saying our 6-2 freethrow advantage in the first half somehow 'justifies' okc's 19-0 ft advantage in the 3rd quarter, or their 26-0 second half ft advantage...lmao

[Spurs 4 The Win]

the Spurs had a great whistle in the 1st half... refs didn't make them shoot 38% (some wide-open looks), and didn't make them turn the ball over...

ing about the refs is a non-starter too, since there's nothing the Spurs can do about it. What they can do is rebound the ball, make the open shots and take care of the ball... that wins games, no matter what the whistle looks like.

That is by design my friend, and you just fell hook line and sinker for one of the most classic rigging tactics in the book, you are smarter than that

[ElNono]

There are specific bad calls that I would agree with... like the Mills call... but there's going to be botched calls all the time. Tony Brothers regularly drives me up a wall, but simply because he's a horrible ref, even when I'm watching games that don't involve the Spurs.

In this particular game, the Spurs just didn't play well. Hopefully they can turn it around in the next game, like they did between Game 4 and 5 in the Portland series. When the Spurs are knocking down looks, bad whistle isn't enough, IMO.

[HI-FI]

weird to see El Nono defending the corrupt officiating. I guess like people in the media, nobody wants to upset the gravy train imo.

[ElNono]

That is by design my friend, and you just fell hook line and sinker for one of the most classic rigging tactics in the book, you are smarter than that

I actually called that in the game thread. The thing is, if we shoot 42% we win this game, and this thread likely is already in the 2nd page lost in obscurity...

Blaming the refs does nothing for the Spurs...

[Spurs 4 The Win]

There are specific bad calls that I would agree with... like the Mills call... but there's going to be botched calls all the time. Tony Brothers regularly drives me up a wall, but simply because he's a horrible ref, even when I'm watching games that don't involve the Spurs.

In this particular game, the Spurs just didn't play well. Hopefully they can turn it around in the next game, like they did between Game 4 and 5 in the Portland series. When the Spurs are knocking down looks, bad whistle isn't enough, IMO.

Im not disagreeing that we need to play better, we are saying it is irresponsible and ignorant to think the refs werent a major reason for both our offensive inefficiency due to the rhythm killing free throw parade and our inability to ever get closer than 4

[NRHector]

Pop isnt a like Brooks or Rivers he never complains about officiating, maybe he should, but he will never do that

He needs to be once in a while, a lot of good coaches do it, Jackson, Rivers, Karl,

[therealtruth]

I think Ibaka's shot blocking was in their heads and they didn't attack the rim.

The team is too weak mentally. Going for the jumpers plays in to OKC's hands. They need to continue to attack the paint and attack Ibaka's body.

[ElNono]

weird to see El Nono defending the corrupt officiating. I guess like people in the media, nobody wants to upset the gravy train imo.

I'm not a fan of missed called, but you can't rig making shots... when Danny made that 3 while getting fouled in Game 2, the refs were an afterthought...

[Spurs 4 The Win]

I actually called that in the game thread. The thing is, if we shoot 42% we win this game, and this thread likely is already in the 2nd page lost in obscurity...

Blaming the refs does nothing for the Spurs...

If we shoot 42% the refs call more fouls and the Thunder still win, and if we shoot 50%, the refs call more fouls and the Thunder still win, fact is, they made it clear we werent winning that game

[poop]

There are specific bad calls that I would agree with... like the Mills call... but there's going to be botched calls all the time. Tony Brothers regularly drives me up a wall, but simply because he's a horrible ref, even when I'm watching games that don't involve the Spurs.In this particular game, the Spurs just didn't play well. Hopefully they can turn it around in the next game, like they did between Game 4 and 5 in the Portland series. When the Spurs are knocking down looks, bad whistle isn't enough, IMO.

Right. Like game 3 of the 2006 WCSF where dirk nowitzki, a 7ft jump shooter, goes 3-9 from the field but shoots 24 freethrows, duncan fouls out of the game when someone steps on his foot, and dallas wins by ONE POINT. yea, refs dont matter

[ElNono]

Im not disagreeing that we need to play better, we are saying it is irresponsible and ignorant to think the refs werent a major reason for both our offensive inefficiency due to the rhythm killing free throw parade and our inability to ever get closer than 4

Well, I thought some of those fouls were actually good calls and fouls the Spurs wanted to give, like the ones on Adams. I don't know how much of those were "rhythm killers"... I actually think Pop wanted those to kill OKC's rhythm...

[Spurs 4 The Win]

I'm not a fan of missed called, but you can't rig making shots... when Danny made that 3 while getting fouled in Game 2, the refs were an afterthought...

Yeah but the refs can manipulate it so that you have to shoot an unrealistic percentage from the field to win the game, we needed to shoot 55%+ to win that game, that was never gonna happen on the road against a desperate team, and the refs knew it

[HI-FI]

I'm not a fan of missed called, but you can't rig making shots... when Danny made that 3 while getting fouled in Game 2, the refs were an afterthought...

True. Spurs were missing some shots. Parker was a pussy again. But if you allow one team to play very physical and the other gets called for ticky tacky , it affects rhythm and spacing, which are important imo. Tonight's disparity is disgusting, no matter how you cut it.

[ElNono]

If we shoot 42% the refs call more fouls and the Thunder still win, and if we shoot 50%, the refs call more fouls and the Thunder still win, fact is, they made it clear we werent winning that game

I don't buy that, and I don't think the Spurs do either. And they shouldn't.

[ElNono]

Yeah but the refs can manipulate it so that you have to shoot an unrealistic percentage from the field to win the game, we needed to shoot 55%+ to win that game, that was never gonna happen on the road against a desperate team, and the refs knew it

We had the looks. We've been shooting over 50% in 8+ games these playoffs... so we can definitely do it.

[DMC]

Lmao, so cut your margins by 50%... okay, or or or, the NBA takes it upon themselves to give the refs a 10k bonus if the Thunder win the game, and then they make tons of money with huge margins... Oh and good luck trying to get Presti to pay Parker 500k to throw a game. I know you are trolling but if your not, I want to expose the level of your stupidity

The refs don't force players to do things that are against their normal behaviors, and certainly not the entire team. You don't beat a team by 35 then the next game be down 20. That's a 55 point swing, and look at the box score for the starters. Tony didn't attack, neither did just about anyone else, and they didn't seem interested in taking advantage of all the early mistakes and turnovers by OKC.

Keep believing it's all about compe ion, in reality it's all about the money. It's always been about the money.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Well, I thought some of those fouls were actually good calls and fouls the Spurs wanted to give, like the ones on Adams. I don't know how much of those were "rhythm killers"... I actually think Pop wanted those to kill OKC's rhythm...

So we do 1 hack on Adams and all of the sudden its by design that we sent them to the line... Okay, that was with 12 seconds left in the third. The Thunder never had rhythm either but why do you need rhythm when you have free throws all quarter...

[DMC]

Yeah but the refs can manipulate it so that you have to shoot an unrealistic percentage from the field to win the game, we needed to shoot 55%+ to win that game, that was never gonna happen on the road against a desperate team, and the refs knew it

Wait, so you believe the refs forced the Spurs into giving up that rebound differential and playing poorly, but you don't believe that teams collude to maximize profits.

[ElNono]

True. Spurs were missing some shots. Parker was a pussy again. But if you allow one team to play very physical and the other gets called for ticky tacky , it affects rhythm and spacing, which are important imo. Tonight's disparity is disgusting, no matter how you cut it.

I didn't like that the Spurs put the Thunder in the bonus early. But if it happens, I though they did the right thing in fouling Adams. At the end we couldn't get a shot to fall down. Same thing happened in Game 4 against Portland... it will happen sometimes.

[ElNono]

So we do 1 hack on Adams and all of the sudden its by design that we sent them to the line... Okay, that was with 12 seconds left in the third. The Thunder never had rhythm either but why do you need rhythm when you have free throws all quarter...

We hacked him once, but we actually fouled him 2 or 3 times under the rim after he grabbed an offensive board. Unless you're arguing it's the refs fault we didn't rebound...

[Spurs 4 The Win]

We had the looks. We've been shooting over 50% in 8+ games these playoffs... so we can definitely do it.

So we have to shoot a historic percentage regularly to win games... got it, no margin for error then, i guess your cool with the rigging and if we cant stay hot as the sun we deserve to lose

[HI-FI]

Wait, so you believe the refs forced the Spurs into giving up that rebound differential and playing poorly, but you don't believe that teams collude to maximize profits.

I'm not against that theory either, it just seems if lots of players were colluding, someone would have mentioned that by now. Least Donaghy spilled the beans, which Stern tried to shekelstein. But I agree that maximizing profits is obviously the goal. They're all business partners, the media included. I just think if all the players were colluding to lose, someone would have spilled the beans on that. I'm hoping what you say is right and not that Parker's pussy was inflamed again.