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    Tony Parker has the worst on/off metrics of any Spurs rotation player in the playoffs, so far..he also has the worst WS/48, only a 16.7 PER and has the worst shooting efficiency of any player other than Jeff Ayres(which doesn't really count, since he has only played in garbage time)..

    In playoff history, of players that have participated in 10 or more playoff games during their run, the only players with a comparable usage rate that have played as poorly as Parker are 1983 Andrew Toney and 2000 Allen Iverson, tbh..

    Thankfully, there is plenty of time for Tony to turn it around, but you have to wonder, has last year's long run of MVP-caliber basketball + Summer basketball as France's top option taken a toll on Tony? Is age catching up? Both?..

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    Nice 1999th post.

    Never knew Toney was so ty in the Sixers dominant 1983 run.

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    dude had a bank ankle in same of the playoffs
    also teams forcus on him and usually put their best d player on him
    oh and Charles barkley says tp is the best point guard in the nba (yes over chris paul)

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    Every single player has been up and down this postseason, but we're so deep and so well-coached that someone else has always stepped up in any given game. Let's hope it continues.

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    Tony Parker has the worst on/off metrics of any Spurs rotation player in the playoffs, so far..he also has the worst WS/48, only a 16.7 PER and has the worst shooting efficiency of any player other than Jeff Ayres(which doesn't really count, since he has only played in garbage time)..

    In playoff history, of players that have participated in 10 or more playoff games during their run, the only players with a comparable usage rate that have played as poorly as Parker are 1983 Andrew Toney and 2000 Allen Iverson, tbh..

    Thankfully, there is plenty of time for Tony to turn it around, but you have to wonder, has last year's long run of MVP-caliber basketball + Summer basketball as France's top option taken a toll on Tony? Is age catching up? Both?..
    Teams are focusing the defense on stopping him tbh and he's also worse than last year by a large margin...

    Also Beli is playing worse than anyone so really it's just him and Manu, the plan to have a 3rd player who could run the PnR failed so badly it's not even funny, Pop and Buford added pressure on TP to perform instead of the opposite with this ty move...

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    Ya, obviously you can't compare Parker to the rest of the team, he runs the offense and initiates everything while facing more defensive attention..

    I'm mostly comparing him to himself in past seasons and comparing him to other stars..last year's version of Parker was on a whole other universe compared to this year's TP, sadly..

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    And ya, Belinelli was one of the worst signings in recent history..

    Can't create offense for himself or others, historically bad defender, and can't even make open shots consistently anymore..smh..

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    dude had a bank ankle in same of the playoffs
    also teams forcus on him and usually put their best d player on him
    oh and Charles barkley says tp is the best point guard in the nba (yes over chris paul)
    Duncan averaged 32/12 against the Mavs in 2006 with plantar fasciitis.
    Ginobili averaged 21 ppg against the Grizzlies with a broken arm.

    The excuses for Tony never end. His hammy was supposed to be 100% on Sunday(his own words) and he still played like . Some people just don't want to accept the fact that TP is a VERY poor playoff performer. He puts up points but he does it at low efficiency. Has never been a great playmaker either, defense is inconsistent, and his lack of a jumpshot kills the spacing on the team.

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    There is no doubt on my mind Tony is on the decline. He has not looked nearly as quick or fast as he was even last year. I mean in the freakin Mavs series, he could not even outrun two bigmen on a fastbreak. The one-man-fastbreak and insane quickness is gone. Last year and the summer play most def took a toll.

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    He couldn't even get past Abaka when they switched on him...

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    I think there's more to it somehow... some games he looks amazing (game 7 vs Dallas, a bunch of games against Portland, first couple of games against OKC), but when he looks bad (Games 1-6 vs Dallas, last night), he looks really, really bad.

    Hard to explain for a kid in his prime, tbh... maybe Brazil that's peeking in this thread can chime in...

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    gettin no sleep because of that baby and the newfound joy of fatherhood has probably worn off already. He is human tbh it would be hard for any man to do their job 100% when having a newborn imo

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    I think there's more to it somehow... some games he looks amazing (game 7 vs Dallas, a bunch of games against Portland, first couple of games against OKC), but when he looks bad (Games 1-6 vs Dallas, last night), he looks really, really bad.

    Hard to explain for a kid in his prime, tbh... maybe Brazil that's peeking in this thread can chime in...
    He's exhausted and nothing but an offseason will cure it. (If it does, he may be slowing down from age...). Pop already rested him 3 weeks in a season where he played about 30 min a game. He is what he is for this season at least. As I said, some nights Tony will be a world beater, some nights someone else will have to step up. So far they have. If we win a le this year it's really going to be a group effort, no player is going to carry us.

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    Why would he be exhausted coming off of such a long rest?

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    Tony doesn't need to be a superstar this year, this Spurs team is the most team-oriented contender in NBA history IMO..

    But he needs to he much more effective and consistent than he has been during this run..

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    Why would he be exhausted coming off of such a long rest?
    Fatigue. As Tony gets older he's going to need more time to recover from long term exhaustion. I hope he does NOTHING this off season. Sit on a beach with his new wife and kid. Don't touch a basketball.

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    Fatigue. As Tony gets older he's going to need more time to recover from long term exhaustion. I hope he does NOTHING this off season. Sit on a beach with his new wife and kid. Don't touch a basketball.
    That doesn't really make sense when you look at games 1 and 2. Unless you're saying he was so tired from those first games that he needed almost a week to recover. That wouldn't bode well for tomorrow night...

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    That doesn't really make sense when you look at games 1 and 2. Unless you're saying he was so tired from those first games that he needed almost a week to recover. That wouldn't bode well for tomorrow night...
    It means short rest (a few days) can give him energy for a game or two, but its going to be diminishing returns until he gets a much longer break.

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    I'd be more inclined to believe it's some form and severity of an injury. You have experience with this type of long-term fatigue?

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    I'd be more inclined to believe it's some form and severity of an injury. You have experience with this type of long-term fatigue?
    I'm just some guy on the internet shooting off his mouth. That said I was a Division I swimmer in college. It took a month after heavy training for your body to fully recover and produce your best times. And that's for 18 to 22 year olds. Tony's 32 with a ton of mileage and nagging injuries. 2 to 3 month's is what this (completely unqualified) Dr. Bill recommends for Tony. Who knows. The point is a body in a state of chronic fatigue cannot return to its maximum performance level without extended rest. It's not recharging batteries (like replenishing carbs, etc) it's long term physical and mental healing.

    But this is all guess work when applied to Tony, I fully admit it.

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    Regarding the OP, to me it's encouraging that TPs best in these playoffs is still elite. Normally when you reach TOSB status, you don't get this many great games. The thing that stands out to me is the bad games being so bad & it's been 50/50. His numbers look bad because of the bad games where in the past not only did he have more great than bad, but the bad games weren't this bad. The downside was minimal.

    I do think he's ailing but he's shown more than enough good games to where I think it's fatigue & injury.

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    He'll bounce back in game 4 -- book it

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    Less than a week ago people were stating that Parker is the best point guard in the league. Amazing how short of a memory SpursTalk has.

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    Less than a week ago people were stating that Parker is the best point guard in the league. Amazing how short of a memory SpursTalk has.
    1 game ago we were invincible. Now its 2012 redux and Tony's washed up. Love the knee jerk internet age.

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    Nice 1999th post.

    Never knew Toney was so ty in the Sixers dominant 1983 run.
    ah 1999


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