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    They coexist in our culture, in our diversity of beliefs or mom belief. They should coexist as they always have - in open discussion and philosophical exploration. IMO we do ourselves a disservice when we dismiss counter thought out of hand without at least some consideration.
    What's to consider? You can't prove a creator exists. If you want to keep it in a philosophical discussion, ok, but there's no disservice.

    In fact, it's a disservice to our society to introduce it into our culture, tbhimo
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    What's to consider? You can't prove a creator exists. If you want to keep it in a philosophical discussion, ok, but there's no disservice.

    In fact, it's a disservice to our society to introduce it into our culture, tbhimo
    Belief in the supernatural is as old as man. To deny it is to revise our history. Belief in a god whether you can prove it or not should not be offensive to anyone, so long as the believer doesn't force that belief on others. And I think that's where we, who believe, have done a disservice to ourselves. We try too hard to prove we're right rather than just live our lives in our belief and let others do the same. So given that I can understand why someone would be put off by the idea of belief in God. Anyway, to each his own is what I'm trying to say. I don't think that's being pushy or presumptuous.

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    Belief in the supernatural is as old as man. To deny it is to revise our history.
    nothing wrong with that if it pushes us towards a better place as a society.

    belief in the supernatural serves no purpose to that goal. In fact, religions such as christianity have held us back over the course of time.

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    Who are the two biggest re s in this thread yep, Blake and ClipperNation. Are they ever happy about anything, nope! Do they spend 90% of their time here in the negative or bugging people, yep. They are a perfect example of what I was talking about. Would a Christian act like those two freaks, nope!

    There was a time when if you tried to explain the cell phone to people you'd been called crazy. Just because you can't prove something doesn't mean anything, try and prove your emotions.
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    Who are the two biggest re s in this thread yep, Blake and ClipperNation. Are they ever happy about anything, nope! Do they spend 90% of their time here in the negative or bugging people, yep. They are a perfect example of what I was talking about. Would a Christian act like those two freaks, nope!

    There was a time when if you tried to explain the cell phone to people you'd been called crazy. Just because you can't prove something doesn't mean anything, try and prove your emotions.
    lol you actually edited that mess

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    nothing wrong with that if it pushes us towards a better place as a society.

    belief in the supernatural serves no purpose to that goal. In fact, religions such as christianity have held us back over the course of time.
    Then prove what you keep saying is true, or quit trying to FORCE those who believe into not believing.
    You can't have it both ways. No one is forcing you to believe the way they do.
    Geez, what an idiot you are tbh.
    You can add m>s to the CN and Blake list.

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    Then prove what you keep saying is true, or quit trying to FORCE those who believe into not believing.
    You can't have it both ways. No one is forcing you to believe the way they do.
    Geez, what an idiot you are tbh.
    You can add m>s to the CN and Blake list.
    I'm not forcing anyone to do anything here.

    Your reading comprehension skills suck, ivy.

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    I'm not forcing anyone to do anything here.

    Your reading comprehension skills suck, ivy.
    You're the one who wanted him to prove his belief and wouldn't accept his explanation.
    So you prove your belief then!
    If you want him to do it so badly, then you should be willing and able to prove what you believe.
    If you can dish it out, you better be able to take it.

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    You're the one who wanted him to prove his belief and wouldn't accept his explanation.
    So you prove your belief then!
    If you want him to do it so badly, then you should be willing and able to prove what you believe.
    If you can dish it out, you better be able to take it.
    I don't have a belief, idiot.

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    I'm not forcing anyone to do anything here.

    Your reading comprehension skills suck, ivy.
    Typical, instead of owning up to your up, you make excuses and try to get out of it.
    The man was being honest and straight forward with you as well as civil and respectful.
    Yet you wanted to challenge and make fun of his beliefs.
    On a side note, I guess Avante is right, you are one of the biggest re s here.

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    I don't have a belief, idiot.
    Nor do you have a brain.
    It is your reading comprehension that leaves a lot to be desired not mine tbh.

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    Then which do you believe, that there is no God, or that there is?
    Generally either you believe one or the other, there is no in between.
    So if you believe there is no such thing as God, which you always post, then prove there is no such thing.
    You always ask those who believe there is One to prove it, so your turn to put your money where your mouth is.

    And what is wrong about editing?
    Absolutely nothing! In fact more should do it, make their posts more readable.
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    Nor do you have a brain.
    It is your reading comprehension that leaves a lot to be desired not mine tbh.
    remember that time you honestly thought you went to an ivy league school?

    That was funny.

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    Then which do you believe, that there is no God, or that there is?
    Generally either you believe one or the other, there is no in between.
    So if you believe there is no such thing as God, which you always post, then prove there is no such thing.
    You always ask those who believe there is One to prove it, so your turn to put your money where your mouth is.
    If I thought you were smart enough to grasp the spaghetti monster concept, I'd get into it. But you're not.

    And what is wrong about editing?
    Absolutely nothing! In fact more should do it, make their posts more readable.
    I agree. I found it funny he edited his post and it was still a mess.

    Your reading comprehension skills completely suck, ivy.

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    If I thought you were smart enough to grasp the spaghetti monster concept, I'd get into it. But you're not.



    I agree. I found it funny he edited his post and it was still a mess.

    Your reading comprehension skills completely suck, ivy.
    Don't change the subject. Quit running.
    Prove what you say, or shut up from now on about God.

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    Don't change the subject. Quit running.
    Prove what you say, or shut up from now on about God.
    I don't have to prove there isn't a god. You suck at this and should stop before your meltdown goes nuclear, tbh.

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    I don't have to prove there isn't a god. You suck at this and should stop before your meltdown goes nuclear, tbh.

    Thinking I am melting down, really!
    Your first mistake was trying and failing to "think".
    Your second was trying to pin your own insecurities on me and others, it never works out like you wish it would.
    Go on, prove it, or just quietly slink away.
    You can't. You lose again!
    I laugh AT you again.

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    You really thought I was talking about kids, come on man.
    No, actually I didn't.

    I was referring to people who believe in magic sky people and forever after happy fun play time as akin to children, who want to believe in happy stories, but kind of ignore the physical impossibilities, paradoxes, and general silliness of such things.

    Funny thing is my 7 year old correctly pointed out that you don't have to believe in all the silliness in the bible to believe in a God.

    That makes at least one 7 year old with more sense than you seem to have.

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    No, actually I didn't.

    I was referring to people who believe in magic sky people and forever after happy fun play time as akin to children, who want to believe in happy stories, but kind of ignore the physical impossibilities, paradoxes, and general silliness of such things.

    Funny thing is my 7 year old correctly pointed out that you don't have to believe in all the silliness in the bible to believe in a God.

    That makes at least one 7 year old with more sense than you seem to have.
    You believe you came from a fish. Silly randomguy.

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    Then which do you believe, that there is no God, or that there is?
    Generally either you believe one or the other, there is no in between.
    So if you believe there is no such thing as God, which you always post, then prove there is no such thing.
    You always ask those who believe there is One to prove it, so your turn to put your money where your mouth is.

    And what is wrong about editing?
    Absolutely nothing! In fact more should do it, make their posts more readable.
    Atheism is not the belief "there is no God".

    Atheism is the withholding of belief about God until it has been reasonably proven.

    You have presented a false dichotomy. It is possible to withhold belief about something being true, and withhold belief in the opposite.

    I don't believe there is a pink dancing elephant on planet in a neighboring star system, but neither do I have enough evidence to rule it out for certain.

    What I can say for certain is that bible God is false, because as presented, bible God is given qualities that are, by definition, impossible. Omnipotence and omniscience for example. Both of these things are paradoxical and logically similar to a sphere with corners or a four sided triangle. This is why decent theologians have fully abandoned that stupidity to its fate.

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    You believe you came from a fish. Silly randomguy.
    That would have more bite if you actually stated what you believed.

    I would simply respond and expand on my previous point:



    Three minutes of your time, some nice piano music to listen to, and perhaps some foolishness to abandon.

    Challenging ones beliefs takes work. Brains are naturally a bit lazy.

    That is why you fail.

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    That would have more bite if you actually stated what you believed.

    I would simply respond and expand on my previous point:



    Three minutes of your time, some nice piano music to listen to, and perhaps some foolishness to abandon.

    Challenging ones beliefs takes work. Brains are naturally a bit lazy.

    That is why you fail.
    Fail? okay, Nemo.

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    You believe you came from a fish. Silly randomguy.
    Taking it a step further, yes, I do, because that is the theory that best fits the available evidence.

    How do you decide what to believe?

    I know you are trolling, but doesn't that get boring after a while?

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