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    If your running to the hoop and not attempting a basketball move you don't get the foul ever. What Westbrick does isn't basketball. Its taking advantage of the foul system. I bet every NBA player could do exactly what he does. Haul ass to the basket head down carrying the rock like a football then at the very last second throw it strait up, make a goon face and go to the ft line. There is no defense on the planet to stop such a dumb thing. How many charges would one have to take to stop that crap. Let me tell you what isn't a basketball move... HEAD DOWN, CARRYING THE BALL LIKE A RUNNING BACK, NOT LOOKING AT THE RIM... That's Westbrick.

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    It's really ing bull how much he gets bailed out.

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    I would like to see a rule where if you get fouled in the paint and stay on your feet; you get the old NBA rule of 3 to make 2. . . . . if you fall on the shot in the paint, you only get two shots....................If you fall on an outside jump shot; you only get one shot. Stay on your feet, you get two shots (or three on a three pointer)...that way at least the ref isn't fooled on an outside shot by a flop.

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    Also throwing your elbows and legs into anything that moves is right out of Karl Malone's playbook tbh
    Constant chicken wings and hip checks on defense- he's an incredibly dirty player

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    the nba

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    Baynes should Laimbeer him if he tries that in Game 6. Make him EARN those freebies!

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    Also throwing your elbows and legs into anything that moves is right out of Karl Malone's playbook tbh
    Constant chicken wings and hip checks on defense- he's an incredibly dirty player
    Russ and Karl both have less rings than Darko

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    It's really mind blowing somebody hasn't knocked him on ass hard at least once to make him think about driving. We need Baynes to do some Kevin Willis type enforcing.

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    Have you not been watching Lebron for his entire career? This is the new NBA. You shoot threes or you bulldoze your way to the rim and either get a layup or a call.

    Harden, Westbrook, James, Manu tbh.

    KD is a awesome scorer but Westbrook has a higher ceiling IMO. There are times when he is just unstoppable. KD is gonna give you 25-30 on great shooting, but that's only ever on like 60% shooting max. Westbrook driving in transition is either points or a personal foul at a much higher rate than that (when he's playing aggressively like g4).

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    DRose is another one that did this, you see where it got him. Gotta have that roidbody like frog and LBJ

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    DRose is another one that did this, you see where it got him. Gotta have that roidbody like frog and LBJ
    Who?

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    I would like to see a rule where if you get fouled in the paint and stay on your feet; you get the old NBA rule of 3 to make 2. . . . . if you fall on the shot in the paint, you only get two shots....................If you fall on an outside jump shot; you only get one shot. Stay on your feet, you get two shots (or three on a three pointer)...that way at least the ref isn't fooled on an outside shot by a flop.
    A lot of jump shooters fall down on purpose to prevent rolling their ankle on a defender's foot. It's not always to sell a foul call.

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    Been saying this since Game 3. He didnt get bailed out the first two and was throwing tantrums on the floor, but since Game 3 95% of his out of control drives have ended up in a basket or a foul or both.

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    A lot of jump shooters fall down on purpose to prevent rolling their ankle on a defender's foot. It's not always to sell a foul call.
    Then you save your ankle, but only get one shot. I'm tired of seeing dirk, lebron, kd, westbrook......and even manu and tony fall down every time they take a shot.

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    how can you watch that as a fan and say it's good basketball? i'd be bored if my stars were getting 14 of their 30 points from the line.

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    Tiago with 5 points on 0 made shots. Nary room

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    Manu used to do that and it worked. I remember George Karl complaining about it. You only dislike it when it gets used against you.

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    Then you save your ankle, but only get one shot. I'm tired of seeing dirk, lebron, kd, westbrook......and even manu and tony fall down every time they take a shot.
    Actively encouraging players to take risks on potential injury is a terrible strategy.

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    Baynes should Laimbeer him if he tries that in Game 6. Make him EARN those freebies!

    Amen to that man. I was thinking the same thing during game 5. Make him dread driving if he's gonna go to the foul line anyways.

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    I would like to see a rule where if you get fouled in the paint and stay on your feet; you get the old NBA rule of 3 to make 2. . . . . if you fall on the shot in the paint, you only get two shots....................If you fall on an outside jump shot; you only get one shot. Stay on your feet, you get two shots (or three on a three pointer)...that way at least the ref isn't fooled on an outside shot by a flop.
    Now you're just giving the defense an incentive to knock the shooter down.

    As to the OP, I agree somewhat. If the offensive player initiates the contact, the defender should be allowed to make contact too, or else call it an offensive foul.

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    If your running to the hoop and not attempting a basketball move you don't get the foul ever. What Westbrick does isn't basketball. Its taking advantage of the foul system. I bet every NBA player could do exactly what he does. Haul ass to the basket head down carrying the rock like a football then at the very last second throw it strait up, make a goon face and go to the ft line. There is no defense on the planet to stop such a dumb thing. How many charges would one have to take to stop that crap. Let me tell you what isn't a basketball move... HEAD DOWN, CARRYING THE BALL LIKE A RUNNING BACK, NOT LOOKING AT THE RIM... That's Westbrick.
    Excellent post, completely agree

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    Tiago with 5 points on 0 made shots. Nary room
    Are you seriously comparing one game by Tiago to Westbrook overall?

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    I dont think the NBA can change that...at the end, if the refs think someone wasnt standing without moving it has to be a foul.

    One solution I read was to give the player 1 FT and possession, but also eliminating the 6th foul. No limit in fouls.
    At the end, the refs wont be able to "help" teams because if they cant score, 1 FT is not gonna help them...they will have to call fouls on EVERY possession..and that is TOO obvious.

    Idk...I do agree something has to be done.

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    Westbrook, the hardest player to ref since prime Shaq bowling over set post defenders in the paint.

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    Are you seriously comparing one game by Tiago to Westbrook overall?
    Yes. Absolutely serious.

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