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Too many good big men in the West. Out East maybe I could see trading him but we need him to get out of the West, tbh.
Hum how can you justify giving Boris less than Tiago at this point ? How did they sold Manu on taking less than Tiago (probably felt guilty about the Finals but Tiago was even worse than him in that series)...
There's also the issue of preserving cap space for the 2015 summer, but they had no issue bending that rule for Tiago...
I also think that Green in 2015 will look at Tiago's deal and ask for big bucks...
Im worried about the consequences of that deal... Both in term of cap space and in term of internal salary scale... If Tiago has another bad Finals then I think he should be traded for sure.
Edit : cant edit the le ffs...
Too many good big men in the West. Out East maybe I could see trading him but we need him to get out of the West, tbh.
Justice is not a verb.
Posted from my phone with the ty autocorrect, edited some stuff but the le can't be changed so that sucks...
He earned it this playoffs
You mean he outplayed Manu and Boris?
How about Boris defending LMA and Dirk for the whole series.
Now respond after thinking of such nightmare
Finals can't start soon enough.
Damned straight in the first two series. That's saying something with Manu having a good Round 1.
Boris guarded Blake Griffin in 2012, we swept the series and had the best Spurs offense ever... Beside he did guard these guys off the bench...
he was very bad against LMA for what I recall...
elite defense >>> bringing a spark off the bench, we already have plenty of offense
lets not go back to 2011 levels
Fair point, but imo they're not in the same ballpark when it come to their influence on the game, we're comparing creators to the layup king who benefits from the playmaking of the other two...
Baam never gives up.
Yeah I don't understand people jumping on Tiago after one series that presented a matchup problem. If you weigh defense as much as offense the guy was probably the Spurs MVP through the first two rounds.
If anything, Splitter is a ing deal, not a bad contract.
If you need perspective:
Step 1) Compare Tiago's contract to Asik's
Step 2) Compare LMA's performance in the first and second rounds (even scratching the first couple games of round 1)
Step 3) Compare Splitter to Asik offensively.
Step 4) Stop it.
It's funny that Pop's answer to the 2012 backdoor sweep was starting Tiago and then when we finally beat the Thunder Tiago plays 10min a game behind Boris and Bonner... Something went wrong there... Tiago was never the answer of going deeper in the POs and even cost the team a ring but hey for some reason the FO chose to extend him... Richard Jefferson 2.0.
Last edited by Baam; 06-03-2014 at 03:28 PM.
Without Tiago we r shining shoes after round 1
Also without Tiago we end up with 4th seed tops
Nope we don't know that, the offense with another player starting would have been way better, the dynamics would have been completely different...
Anyway I just made my case, will stop bringing it up anywhere else. You can disagree for sure, but there's still something troubling in there for anyone who was enamored with that 2012 team...
Last edited by Baam; 06-03-2014 at 03:35 PM.
Right -- Tiago was completely worthless in the 2013 West Finals against Memphis. Tiago's failings are solely a matter of how deep the Spurs are in the playoffs and have nothing to do with who they're playing and the matchups those opponents present.
I can't tell if you're genuinely re ed or just don't know anything about basketball
Both tbh.
Hey Baam here's an idea...let's just trade Tiago and our first to the Knicks for Tyson Chandler. Problem solved
I just wonder if changing a team that won 20 in a row and was the most pleasing to watch since the GOAT Celtics team actually served a purpose or not... Or was it just Pop outsmarting himself... I really don't know... Maybe Tim gets too worn down if they don't I can acknowledge that possibility.
Worthwhile big men are hard to come by in this league. When you have one who does a good job, you pay him or you lose him. This spurs team without Tiago is probably a second round ceiling team (Of course everything depends on matchups, so it's hard to say for certain).
But just think about what would happen if the spurs came up against Memphis without Tiago. 2011 all over again.
People still don't understand the Spurs.
Spurs get a bunch of people that fill different roles and have different skill sets. This allows them to match up ideally against whoever they play against.
Having 2 bigs on the court isn't always ideal. When you have to compete against one of the top 3-5 bigs of all time for only 1 spot you don't win.
Now how many bigs play defense at Tiago's level? Very few. What do those bigs make?
It's not about team impact, it's about how replaceable you are. Simply put it'd be very hard and very expensive to replace Tiago.
The team is successful so people are back to venerating Pop and the FO but we have seen them make many mistakes, fewer than most teams for sure but still they get it wrong from time to time...
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