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    I'm with you. The second it was announced that Parker was out for the second half in game 6 vs OKC I knew we had an even better chance to win. And it's not Parker's fault so much---it's just that Manu is a far better play-maker, through and through. Mills and Joseph get all the credit, which is ridiculous, because it's all Manu playing point.

    Parker is the best PG in the NBA. But he doesn't involve anyone else when he's on the floor except Timmy. And his dribble, dribble kills whatever rhythm our offense has. He seems to have this arrogant at ude when he's on the court. Like he doesn't respect certain players...Danny Green, Kawhi, Splitter, to name a few.

    I almost wish he would sit out game 1 so we could see how we do without him with Manu playing point and 35+ mins a game.
    How can you say this with a straight face after the way Westbrook on him last round?

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    How can you say this with a straight face after the way Westbrook on him last round?
    Read Chinook's defensive analysis thread. Check Parker's numbers when defending Westbrook. Realize how uneffective Westbrook is. Understand why OKC lost.

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    CoJo will take us to the promised land.
    I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, but I definitely feel like he will step up big in this series, especially if Parker isn't 100 percent.

    Tony can still be effective even at 70 percent, he could "fake" his condition a bit by playing a bit easy, but still scoring a few times how he has made his living his entire career. He won't need to play as many minutes if we get some solid leads, and if Parker at least does a few slashes to the basket and scores, it will seem like he's back to shape. Even if he isn't, Parker could mask his injuries... Parker doesn't need to be the leading scorer for us to win this series, him getting 15 or so a game might be enough if we get enough production from Boris, Manu, Green, and Tim.

    It's all mind games at this point, Parker could just be throwing the Heat off, he might be totally serious, or tomorrow Tony might be on fire and playing an Ibaka-esque return performance regardless to any health issues.

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    Read Chinook's defensive analysis thread. Check Parker's numbers when defending Westbrook. Realize how uneffective Westbrook is. Understand why OKC lost.
    Westbrook was OKC's best player in the Conference Finals while the Spurs didn't even need Parker to close out the Thunder.

    Westbrook's Conference Finals numbers:
    27ppg/6rpg/7apg on 54% TS
    109 ORtg

    Parker's Conference Finals numbers:
    13ppg/2rpg/5apg on 51% TS
    99 ORtg

    Parker was a worse scorer/rebounder/passer AND less efficient. Anybody that thinks Parker outplayed WB is an idiot.

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    hopefully he doesnt play at all in the finals. we will win for sure

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    TP made the All NBA 2nd Team

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    Westbrook was OKC's best player in the Conference Finals while the Spurs didn't even need Parker to close out the Thunder.

    Westbrook's Conference Finals numbers:
    27ppg/6rpg/7apg on 54% TS
    109 ORtg

    Parker's Conference Finals numbers:
    13ppg/2rpg/5apg on 51% TS
    99 ORtg

    Parker was a worse scorer/rebounder/passer AND less efficient. Anybody that thinks Parker outplayed WB is an idiot.
    Yet Parker was the best Spurs defender on Westbrook and is in the Finals while Westbrook is on holidays.

    And I guess it's not coincidental that you elected to show TS% which of course takes into account FT%, which given how often Westbrook gets sent to the line for no real reason, inflates his TS% artificially.

    But hey, I'm not surprised you prefer the loser...

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    Yet Parker was the best Spurs defender on Westbrook and is in the Finals while Westbrook is on holidays.
    Yes, he's in the Finals thanks to Manu/TD/Leonard/Green/Splitter carrying his ass.

    And I guess it's not coincidental that you elected to show TS% which of course takes into account FT%, which given how often Westbrook gets sent to the line for no real reason, inflates his TS% artificially.
    Makes sense to use TS% in this comparison since you want to reward the guys that are aggressively attacking the basket. Parker's played soft basketball throughout this post-season - career low playoff year when it comes to drawing free throws. And it's not like the refs don't like him because he plays for the Spurs either. Manu, for example, has the same free throw attempt rate as Westbrook in these playoffs.

    But hey, I'm not surprised you prefer the loser...
    I support the superior player. I support the guy that hasn't quit on his team twice in these playoffs.
    Last edited by Johnny RIngo; 06-04-2014 at 12:14 PM.

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    stats shown on tv said when parker was guarding westbook he was not effective when others were westbrook was effective

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    parker has never got the calls and some do not understand it
    he shots all thoses points in the paint yet he does not get to the free throw line

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    westbrook quite on his team on game 6 when he shot the ball over the backboard when kd was wide open for a three
    westrbrook also shot more shots then kd in the overtime
    had tp did that instead of westbrook you would have said tunnel version
    westbrook is a better rebounder but he has a better rebounder body then tp

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    parker has never got the calls and some do not understand it
    he shots all thoses points in the paint yet he does not get to the free throw line
    TP fans sounding like Scott Brooks all of a sudden. Not enough FTAs for Tony

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    Yes, he's in the Finals thanks to Manu/TD/Leonard/Green/Splitter carrying his ass.
    Why stop at these five? Afraid to go full re ?

    Makes sense to use TS% in this comparison since you want to reward the guys that are aggressively attacking the basket. Parker's played soft basketball throughout this post-season - career low playoff year when it comes to drawing free throws. And it's not like the refs don't like him because he plays for the Spurs either. Manu, for example, has the same free throw attempt rate as Westbrook in these playoffs.
    Westbrook isn't aggressively attacking the basket, he's aggressively attacking other players... and getting free throws for it.

    I support the superior player. I support the guy that hasn't quit on his team twice in these playoffs.
    You support the loser, period.

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    Why stop at these five? Afraid to go full re ?



    Westbrook isn't aggressively attacking the basket, he's aggressively attacking other players... and getting free throws for it.



    You support the loser, period.
    Funny!
    Agreed!
    Westbrook who?

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    Not that this information will make any difference to the rabid TP haters like Apilosic and Johnny Ringo, but Dr. Jason Garret, who works directly with Tony as a rehab specialist, said this morning that besides the light ankle sprain, Tony also has been dealing with a bone bruise in his left ankle.

    I have had bone bruises and they are exceptionally painful. However, Garret said that there was no reason that he couldn't be given pain meds and/or injections for the pain, and that if that is successful, Tony should be able to be close to 100%.

    Some of us will consider this excellent news.

    Go Spurs Go!

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    no way meds get you close to 100% unless they contain heavy doses of heroin/cocaine/morphine

    sounds like Tony mighh need an amputation just to carry on a normal life


    congrats Miami

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    Some of us will consider this excellent news.

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    Why stop at these five? Afraid to go full re ?
    I picked those five because they're all leading the team in PER this post-season. Guess you could go one more and add Diaw too:

    21.6 - TD
    21.1 - Manu
    19.0 - Tiago
    17.2 - Kawhi
    17.0 - Diaw
    16.0 - Green
    16.0 - Parker

    Westbrook isn't aggressively attacking the basket, he's aggressively attacking other players... and getting free throws for it.
    Not enough free throws for Tony

    You support the loser, period.
    Just posting facts. Anybody that thinks Tony outplayed WB is a ing idiot. Parker was SO valuable to the team that we were able to close out, on the road, without him.

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    per for manu is a joke because he is not effective in 48 minutes
    hecan barely play 30 and be somewhat effective the next game unless he has 2 days off

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    spurs run a motion o and so the point guard does not average a lot of assist but get hockey assist
    spurs average one if not the most assist in the nba thanks to motion o but the point guard does not get a lot
    all the players get a lot but if you look at stats since the point does not get a lot of assist he gets outplayed LOL

    what was westbrook problem when he was in sa? he is the point guard and they got beat by 80 points in sa

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    06.06.2014:

    "The score is flattering. It's been a very close match. Which came down to the end. We battled throughout the whole game, it wasn't easy. There were many turnovers and a lot of nervousness. A finals game is always special. We had 22 turnovers because Miami had a really great defense. They're very fast, and they're strong from the bench. We should have done better choices.

    With the A/C broken, the arena was overheated. Many players suffered from the heat, but personally I didn't mind. I'm used in Europe to play in in warm arenas like this, it didn't bother me.
    Physically, I wasn't sure what to expect. I wasn't sure how my ankle would react. I was a bit cautious in the first quarter, I wanted to see how things were going. Then I started feeling better and better as the game went on, and when my ankle was warmed up I was aggressive. I'm satisfied with my first game because I wasn't sure how I was going to feel physically.

    We know that Miami is very strong mentally. It's on us to stay focused. We must win this game, it's important because the Heat rarely lose two games in a row. We can play a lot better."

    Original: http://www.tp9.net/spurs/rester-serieux/

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    thanks

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    06.06.2014:

    "The score is flattering. It's been a very close match. Which came down to the end. We battled throughout the whole game, it wasn't easy. There were many turnovers and a lot of nervousness. A finals game is always special. We had 22 turnovers because Miami had a really great defense. They're very fast, and they're strong from the bench. We should have done better choices.

    With the A/C broken, the arena was overheated. Many players suffered from the heat, but personally I didn't mind. I'm used in Europe to play in in warm arenas like this, it didn't bother me.
    Physically, I wasn't sure what to expect. I wasn't sure how my ankle would react. I was a bit cautious in the first quarter, I wanted to see how things were going. Then I started feeling better and better as the game went on, and when my ankle was warmed up I was aggressive. I'm satisfied with my first game because I wasn't sure how I was going to feel physically.

    We know that Miami is very strong mentally. It's on us to stay focused. We must win this game, it's important because the Heat rarely lose two games in a row. We can play a lot better."

    Original: http://www.tp9.net/spurs/rester-serieux/
    Thanks for the translation. Hope they all play a bit better in the next game.

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    "It was very close, it's very frustrating, but that's Basketball. We were there, leading by 1. We have a stop and then we don't make the basket to end the game. On Chalmers flagrant, it stopped my breathing. I was pretty pissed because I missed both my FT after that. But it felt better after. I don't think we lost because of our missed FT. We're playing against a great team.

    LeBron was on fire during the 3rd, and it helped them a lot. That's why they've been NBA champs 2 times. He's the best player in the world, and tonight he proved it. He made a lot of big shots for them.

    I trust in Manu, I've been playing with him a long time. And when he has the ball, he usually does good things. It happens... You have to look at the entire game and not just one move. Now we lost home court and will have to win in Miami. We have 2 opportunities to achieve it. It will be tough but we did it last year, we won game 1 there.

    We'll try to leave with this mindset. You have to win road games to win a le. Everybody knows it. We're disappointed and frustrated because we want to play better. We haven't been playing our best basket-ball so far. But those are big games. It's the Finals. You have the 2 best teams in the worlds. We have to defend better and we have to stay positive. We have to win in Miami."

    http://www.tp9.net/spurs/tout-a-refaire/

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    Thanks for the up-to-date info.

    good to see him standing up for Manu…Nice to see that the players stand up for each other. Wish the fans did more of that.

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