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the NRA gets no help from SCOTUS, losing streak continues:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-0...igh-court.html
That shop owner is a ing drama queen and I wonder why the reporters never asked to hear the voicemails of said threats. I'd never own a smart gun due to the many possibilities of electronic failures, but I've got no problem with smart guns. The problem I do have with them are the absurd laws attached to them. Boutons were you aware that in NJ if a smart gun is sold that 3 years from then ONLY smart guns will allowed to be sold? That is what people are pissed about.sicko gun fellators just love FREEDOM! and "free markets" only when freedom applies to themselves. They know they define, enforce how much freedom they grant others.[/FONT][/SIZE]
the NRA gets no help from SCOTUS, losing streak continues:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-0...igh-court.html
Why Don’t We Know How Many People Are Shot Each Year in America?
How many Americans have been shot over the past 10 years? No one really knows. We don't even know if the number of people shot annually has gone up or down over that time.
The government's own numbers seem to conflict. One source of data on shooting victims suggests that gun-related violence has been declining for years, while another government estimate actually shows an increase in the number of people who have been shot. Each estimate is based on limited, incomplete data. Not even the FBI tracks the total number of nonfatal gunshot wounds.
"We know how many people die, but not how many are injured and survive," said Dr. Demetrios Demetriades, a Los Angeles trauma surgeon who has been studying nationwide gunshot injury trends.
While the number of gun murders has decreased in recent years, there's debate over whether this reflects a drop in the total number of shootings, or an improvement in how many lives emergency room doctors can save.
Doctors and researchers have been advocating for better gun injury data since the late 1980s. But fierce political battles over gun violence research — including pressure from congressional Republicans that put an end to some government-funded studies on firearms — has meant that we still don't know many basic facts about gun violence in America.
"In the absence of real data, politicians and policymakers do what the they want," Dr. David Livingston, the director of the New Jersey Trauma Center at University Hospital in Newark. said "They do what the they want anyway," he added, "but in the absence of data, they have nobody to call them on it."
The Department of Justice has estimates of nonfatal shootings that suggest a similar trend: Its National Crime Victimization Survey shows a decline, from an average of about 22,000 nonfatal shootings in 2002, to roughly 12,000 a year from 2007 to 2011, according to a Department of Justice statistician.
But over the same time period, CDC estimates show that the number of Americans coming to hospitals with nonfatal, violent gun injuries has actually gone up: from an estimated 37,321 nonfatal gunshot injuries in 2002 to 55,544 in 2011.
The contrast between the two estimates is hard to clear up, since each data source has serious limitations.
Experts say that household data-gathering efforts, like the National Crime Victimization Survey, likely miss the Americans who are most likely to be victims of gun violence.
Shooting victims are "disproportionately young men of color who are living unstable lives and often involved in underground markets or criminal activity, and this is a group that is incredibly difficult to survey," said Philip Cook, a gun violence expert at Duke University. "A lot of them are in jail at any point in time, or if they're not in jail, they have no stable address."
"We have a variety of other evidence that gun violence is going down," Cook said. "By Occam's razor, I'd have to believe that the simplest explanation is that the nonfatal woundings are going down, too."
http://www.propublica.org/article/wh...ailynewsletter
less, emotionally runted assholes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VJPMeXQ6xk#t=73
less misogynists:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TYwuuGaVs4
Open Carry Texas harasses, threatens former Marine for speaking against them
In a video obtained by Mother Jones that was posted online later that day by one of the activists, the group can be seen pursuing and harassing James through downtown Fort Worth. "I'm following this guy around," declares one of them, setting off after him with his weapon slung across his back. He and others stay right behind James for several city blocks, following him through traffic and taunting him along the way.
That right there sounds like a good way to get shot by a Good Guy With a Gun. If you saw a gaggle of angry guys with rifles following somebody around yelling at him, that does seem the kind of thing that would set a Good Guy With a Gun off.
Then the crowd got video of his car and license plate and posted it online, which is the precise thing they were so very upset with James here but when they do it they're patriots.
"That guy obviously thinks he's a badass talking to armed citizens," one gun activist said. "When [the hits the fan] I'll be happy to smash assholes like him."
clearly believes in the conspiracy theory that will be hitting the fan in America, that requires good patriots like him to start killing the people he doesn't like.That right there is an unstable fellow. That is the next American murderer waiting for his moment to shine. That is the kind of person who should not be allowed anywhere near a gun at all, thank you very much, and when this person is walking around city streets with his one or more loaded rifles, because patriotism, this is the kind of person who does indeed present a clear and present threat.
This is an armed intimidation campaign staffed by crazy people. It's the Cliven Bundy Ranch traveling road show.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...m?detail=email
"Good Guys" with guns, just waiting to wave their big black steel s an ANYBODY who dares face them, and salivating about killing the Bad Guys Because They Don't Have Guns
i assume these clowns with guns act all hard and in their own country, but run when war is on their foot steps or when their country needs them they are nowhere to be seenOpen Carry Texas harasses, threatens former Marine for speaking against them
In a video obtained by Mother Jones that was posted online later that day by one of the activists, the group can be seen pursuing and harassing James through downtown Fort Worth. "I'm following this guy around," declares one of them, setting off after him with his weapon slung across his back. He and others stay right behind James for several city blocks, following him through traffic and taunting him along the way.
That right there sounds like a good way to get shot by a Good Guy With a Gun. If you saw a gaggle of angry guys with rifles following somebody around yelling at him, that does seem the kind of thing that would set a Good Guy With a Gun off.
Then the crowd got video of his car and license plate and posted it online, which is the precise thing they were so very upset with James here but when they do it they're patriots.
"That guy obviously thinks he's a badass talking to armed citizens," one gun activist said. "When [the hits the fan] I'll be happy to smash assholes like him."
clearly believes in the conspiracy theory that will be hitting the fan in America, that requires good patriots like him to start killing the people he doesn't like.That right there is an unstable fellow. That is the next American murderer waiting for his moment to shine. That is the kind of person who should not be allowed anywhere near a gun at all, thank you very much, and when this person is walking around city streets with his one or more loaded rifles, because patriotism, this is the kind of person who does indeed present a clear and present threat.
This is an armed intimidation campaign staffed by crazy people. It's the Cliven Bundy Ranch traveling road show.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...m?detail=email
"Good Guys" with guns, just waiting to wave their big black steel s an ANYBODY who dares face them, and salivating about killing the Bad Guys Because They Don't Have Guns
I think these open carry guys are re s....butOpen Carry Texas harasses, threatens former Marine for speaking against them
In a video obtained by Mother Jones that was posted online later that day by one of the activists, the group can be seen pursuing and harassing James through downtown Fort Worth. "I'm following this guy around," declares one of them, setting off after him with his weapon slung across his back. He and others stay right behind James for several city blocks, following him through traffic and taunting him along the way.
That right there sounds like a good way to get shot by a Good Guy With a Gun. If you saw a gaggle of angry guys with rifles following somebody around yelling at him, that does seem the kind of thing that would set a Good Guy With a Gun off.
Then the crowd got video of his car and license plate and posted it online, which is the precise thing they were so very upset with James here but when they do it they're patriots.
"That guy obviously thinks he's a badass talking to armed citizens," one gun activist said. "When [the hits the fan] I'll be happy to smash assholes like him."
clearly believes in the conspiracy theory that will be hitting the fan in America, that requires good patriots like him to start killing the people he doesn't like.That right there is an unstable fellow. That is the next American murderer waiting for his moment to shine. That is the kind of person who should not be allowed anywhere near a gun at all, thank you very much, and when this person is walking around city streets with his one or more loaded rifles, because patriotism, this is the kind of person who does indeed present a clear and present threat.
This is an armed intimidation campaign staffed by crazy people. It's the Cliven Bundy Ranch traveling road show.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/0...m?detail=email
"Good Guys" with guns, just waiting to wave their big black steel s an ANYBODY who dares face them, and salivating about killing the Bad Guys Because They Don't Have Guns
Iol @"journalism".
deflection!
Listen carefully: this thread is about you gun fellators as paranoid, less, bully sickos
You dump y links. Sucks to be you.
Poor TB
here’s Joe “The Plumber” Wurzelbacher of election ’08 fame: “I am sorry you lost your child,” he wrote to the parents of the Santa Barbara dead. “I myself have a son and daughter and the one thing I never want to go through, is what you are going through now. But: As harsh as this sounds — your dead kids don’t trump my Cons utional rights.”
http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/money-behind-gun-madness?akid=11866.187590._5s2OJ&rd=1&src=newslett er998135&t=8
The Money Behind the Gun Madness
The NRA, which has the nerve to call itself “America’s longest-standing civil rights organization,” says it’s about freedom. Wrong. The bottom line is that it really is the bottom line: money. The NRA and its gun lobby pals keep the market jumping.
So firearms and ammunition manufacturers, including Remington Outdoor, Smith & Wesson, Sturm Rugar, and Olin (Winchester Ammunition), give the NRA millions. Depending on the company, this includes direct contributions, percentages of sales and sometimes even free NRA memberships with a purchase.
According to a report early last year by Walter Hickey in Business Insider,
“Since 2005, the gun industry and its corporate allies have given between $20 million and $52.6 million to it through the NRA Ring of Freedom sponsor program…
The NRA also made $20.9 million — about 10 percent of its revenue — from selling advertising to industry companies marketing products in its many publications in 2010, according to the IRS Form 990.”
Charlie Pierce, prodigious political blogger over at Esquire magazine put it well:
“This is a country at war with itself for profit. This is a country at war with itself because its ruling elite is too cowed, or too well-bribed, or too cowardly to recognize that there are people who are getting rich arming both sides, because the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun, so you make sure that it’s easy for the bad guys to get guns in order to make millions selling the guns to the good guys.”
http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-an...age=1#bookmark
2nd Amendment? That's perverted propaganda you gun fellators BELIEVE as if it came straight from your Jesus' mouth.
It'$ All About The Benjamin$$$.
Poor boutonsPoor TB
Unending news from sicko, Cons ution-perverting gun fellators
Gun-rights group organizing delegates to open carry assault rifles at Texas GOP convention
A controversial Texas gun group has called on activists make the Texas Republican Party convention the next front in their battle for the right to openly carry assault-style rifles as many places as possible.
Last week, the gun-rights group Open Carry Tarrant County sued City of Arlington for changing a city ordinance that made it more difficult for its members to approach motorists with pocket-sized copies of the Cons ution while they were carrying rifles.
In a recent Facebook posting, the group attempted to call attention to its cause by organizing Republican delegates to bring long guns and black powder revolvers to the Texas Republican Party convention later this week.
“All delegates, I urge you to open-carry the whole time,” Open Carry Tarrant County coordinator Kory Watkins wrote. “I will be a delegate with my AK 47. Thomas Jefferson would be proud.”
City officials, however, pointed out that guns would not be welcome in the Fort Worth Convention Center as long as alcohol was being served.
“With this type of TABC license, the only type of weapon allowed into an establishment is concealed-carry and those on licensed peace officers,” Fort Worth director of public facilities and events Kirk Slaughter told the Star-Telegram. “The license doesn’t allow bringing in guns other than those that are licensed.”
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/0...e+Raw+Story%29
And just try to say your sicko, ignorant, less gun fellatin brothers-in-arms are to be disregarded as the Phelps family of gun fellators.
NRA applies the wet blanket to Texas open carry enthusiasts:
http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/ar...ners-role.aspxThe second example comes to us from the Lone Star State, which is second to none for its robust gun culture. We applaud Texans for that, but a small number have recently crossed the line from enthusiasm to downright foolishness.
Now we love AR-15s and AKs as much as anybody, and we know that these sorts of semiautomatic carbines are among the most popular, fastest selling firearms in America today. Texas, independent-minded and liberty-loving place that it is, doesn't ban the carrying of loaded long guns in public, nor does it require a permit for this activity. Yet some so-called firearm advocates seem determined to change this.
Recently, demonstrators have been showing up in various public places, including coffee shops and fast food restaurants, openly toting a variety of tactical long guns. Unlicensed open carry of handguns is legal in about half the U.S. states, and it is relatively common and uncontroversial in some places. Yet while unlicensed open carry of long guns is also typically legal in most places, it is a rare sight to see someone sidle up next to you in line for lunch with a 7.62 rifle slung across his chest, much less a whole gaggle of folks descending on the same public venue with similar arms.
Let's not mince words, not only is it rare, it's downright weird and certainly not a practical way to go normally about your business while being prepared to defend yourself. To those who are not acquainted with the dubious practice of using public displays of firearms as a means to draw attention to oneself or one's cause, it can be downright scary. It makes folks who might normally be perfectly open-minded about firearms feel uncomfortable and question the motives of pro-gun advocates.
As a result of these hijinx, two popular fast food outlets have recently requested patrons to keep guns off the premises (more information can be found here and here). In other words, the freedom and goodwill these businesses had previously extended to gun owners has been curtailed because of the actions of an attention-hungry few who thought only of themselves and not of those who might be affected by their behavior. To state the obvious, that's counterproductive for the gun owning community.
More to the point, it's just not neighborly, which is out of character for the big-hearted residents of Texas. Using guns merely to draw attention to yourself in public not only defies common sense, it shows a lack of consideration and manners. That's not the Texas way. And that's certainly not the NRA way.
In summary, NRA certainly does not support bans on personalized guns or on carrying firearms in public, including in restaurants. We think people are intelligent enough to resolve these issues in a reasonable way for themselves. But when people act without thinking, or without consideration for others – especially when it comes to firearms – they set the stage for further restrictions on our rights. Firearm owners face enough challenges these days; we don't need to be victims of friendly fire.
Nice of the NRA to take time out their day to slap boutons.
nice of the NRA to slap idiot gun activists, too
Indeed. Those guy's do no good for the rest of us gun owners.
the gun industry and their shill NRA really don't care. The gun fellators bought the guns, that's all the matters.
boutons, does a liberal Mexican with a shotgun in a liberal city in a state with very strict gun laws not fit your narrative? I've seen no mention of the Seattle shooting from you.
The American violent gun culture, as American as apple pie and mom, and propagandized by gun mfrs FOR PROFIT, leads assholes, sickos, less gun fellators to think that their problems are solved by shooting up the neighborhood, school, or just the wifey.
Stop dodging my question and answer it. You never skip an opportunity to dance on the graves when it comes to a school shooting, why did you ignore this one?
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