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    Pgardn's hint for the day.

    I you like food, and don't wish to be fat, exercise.

    Further, my recipe: Now this can be tough on some people but it will work.

    If you can reach this goal eventually and stay on it you can eat more, much more.
    Attain a heart rate of 65% max for your age and hold that rate for 45 minutes.
    Do this every other day. Remember this is the goal, most will not be able to do this immediately. If you are older it will take much longer to attain this. (220 - age)x 0.65 This works for about 60% of the population. 20% have a higher max heart rate, 20% below. ( I have hints on how to determine this as well)

    In order to attain this type of heart rate and hold it you will have to use the 4 biggest muscles in your body. All are in the legs/butt. You will have to use these muscles aerobically to get up to the 65% max and hold it for 45min. Running jogging is the easiest way to accomplish this, but will be on your skeleton long term unless you find softer surfaces than roads. Leaf litter trails, new Tartan tracks, running in the pool. Intersperse this with swimming and biking or those classes that require movement with little rest time, aerobics. ( I have further recommendations on how to vary your running)

    Get er done.

    I plan to run before the game tonight, swim tomorrow, happy exercising.

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    Sounds like the typical natural is better for you no matter what bs.

    Tell us again boutons about the health evils of HFCS?


    Or how roundup is so bad even though science says otherwise?


    They still can't make up their minds if eggs are good or bad for us.

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    Sounds like the typical natural is better for you no matter what bs.

    Tell us again boutons about the health evils of HFCS?


    Or how roundup is so bad even though science says otherwise?


    They still can't make up their minds if eggs are good or bad for us.
    HFCS is evil

    roundup is evil, non-Monsanto, non-GMO scientists prove it. The Mississippi is a toxic sewer poisoning the Guld thanks to Roundup and other BigAg chemicals.

    eggs were slimed due to cholesterol, but cholesterol fear-mongering is nothing but a BigPharma scam to sell statins for everyone, all ages, even kids. Organic eggs from free range chickens fed a good diet are excellent food.

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    HFCS is evil

    roundup is evil, non-Monsanto, non-GMO scientists prove it. The Mississippi is a toxic sewer poisoning the Guld thanks to Roundup and other BigAg chemicals.

    eggs were slimed due to cholesterol, but cholesterol fear-mongering is nothing but a BigPharma scam to sell statins for everyone, all ages, even kids. Organic eggs from free range chickens fed a good diet are excellent food.
    Big Pharma slimed cholesterol?

    No, they slimed saturated fats and excess sugar both of which lead to eventually to elevated LDLs and triglycerides. This still is the current thinking, nothing has changed. Blame the food packaging that is told to tout the evils of cholesterol in food instead of saturated fat and sugar.

    Statins lower the level of both thus cholesterol in the blood stream. But there is a trade off.
    if people would get their butts off the internet chair and moving this would be much less of a problem...
    So what are you doing today Boots? A run, bicycle, swim, what?

    Petroleum based products are a far far bigger problem than roundup in the Mississippi.
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    Big Pharma slimed cholesterol?

    No, they slimed saturated fats and excess sugar both of which lead to eventually to elevated LDLs and triglycerides. This still is the current thinking, nothing has changed. Blame the food packaging that is told to tout the evils of cholesterol in food instead of saturated fat and sugar.

    Statins lower the level of both thus cholesterol in the blood stream. But there is a trade off.
    if people would get their butts off the internet chair and moving this would be much less of a problem...
    So what are you doing today Boots? A run, bicycle, swim, what?

    Petroleum based products are a far far bigger problem than roundup in the Mississippi.
    The BigPharma cholesterol/statins scam started with one erroneous report in the 1950s. Statins are only helpful for CVD patients who refuse to change their lifestyle (diet + exercise)

    The low-fat (no distinction on which kind of fats, and saturated fat didn't distinguish between artificially hydrogenated/saturated fat (eg, Crisco and similar garbage), mammal fat, and naturally saturated vegetable oil, like healthful coconut and palm oil, neither of which can be produced by US BigAg). ALL fat fell under the "low fat" marketing bull .

    But BigFood's low-fat crap needed help with flavor, so sugar, salt, and all kinds of synthetic chemicals were added as flavor and color enhancers.

    BigOil/BigChem's pollution of the the Mississippi is mostly occurring in toxic, polluted cancer-cluster Louisiana. Roundup, x-icide, nitrogen/potassium fert runoff starts all along the Mississippi and its feeder rivers.

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    More water contamination occurs with residential runoff than ag.

    Homemade natural vinegar/salt weed killer are much more toxic than gyphospate.

    Fact.

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    The BigPharma cholesterol/statins scam started with one erroneous report in the 1950s. Statins are only helpful for CVD patients who refuse to change their lifestyle (diet + exercise)

    The low-fat (no distinction on which kind of fats, and saturated fat didn't distinguish between artificially hydrogenated/saturated fat (eg, Crisco and similar garbage), mammal fat, and naturally saturated vegetable oil, like healthful coconut and palm oil, neither of which can be produced by US BigAg). ALL fat fell under the "low fat" marketing bull .

    But BigFood's low-fat crap needed help with flavor, so sugar, salt, and all kinds of synthetic chemicals were added as flavor and color enhancers.

    BigOil/BigChem's pollution of the the Mississippi is mostly occurring in toxic, polluted cancer-cluster Louisiana. Roundup, x-icide, nitrogen/potassium fert runoff starts all along the Mississippi and its feeder rivers.
    Wrong about coconut oil. Jury is still out.

    Personally I am staying away because it Is highly saturated and staying with less saturated vegetable oils right now.

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    This stupid thread puts an Archies earworm in my head every time I see it.

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    This stupid thread puts an Archies earworm in my head every time I see it.
    Personally I like health stuff.
    Biochemistry of the body is still very complex and the findings are difficult.

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    Wrong about coconut oil. Jury is still out.

    Personally I am staying away because it Is highly saturated and staying with less saturated vegetable oils right now.
    coconut oil is naturally saturated, and medium chain fattty acids. Totally different presentation to human metabolism, esp compared with hydrogenated from BigFood and from mammal fat.

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    coconut oil is naturally saturated, and medium chain fattty acids. Totally different presentation to human metabolism, esp compared with hydrogenated from BigFood and from mammal fat.
    Dont matter if it's natural or not except that the fatty acid chains do have a unique makeup.

    It's still saturated.

    Im staying away until further notice. Saturated fats still can compact more tightly and still take in minerals to produce arteriosclerosis. If you find some really compelling evidence otherwise feel free to post it.

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    And of course this all is made much more complex as there is clearly a genetic component controlling how we process different bio molecules. This is not straightforward stuff.

    I fully expect mouse to show up proclaiming how science is a useless process.

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    HFCS is evil

    roundup is evil, non-Monsanto, non-GMO scientists prove it. The Mississippi is a toxic sewer poisoning the Guld thanks to Roundup and other BigAg chemicals.

    eggs were slimed due to cholesterol, but cholesterol fear-mongering is nothing but a BigPharma scam to sell statins for everyone, all ages, even kids. Organic eggs from free range chickens fed a good diet are excellent food.

    Can you provide me with some better alternatives to roundup that are safer?


    Nope. Its a contact killer with no residual. Spray your garden then plant it the next day. Everything will grow as normal.


    Got some data on that eggs Dr.?


    You're still a ty person for eating those eggs you know. No different than me or anyone else.

    http://www.upc-online.org/freerange.html

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    is there a graphy sugar vs drugs?

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    In spite of Europe's huge chemical companies, atrazine is banned in Europe, but continues BigChem runs wild and poisons America.

    How a Big Agribusiness Firm Infiltrated the EPA and Made a Mockery of Science

    Atrazine is the second most commonly used herbicide in the US and is used on more than 50% of all corn crops. It is one of Syngenta’s most profitable chemicals with sales at over $300 million a year. Banned in the EU, atrazine remains on the market in the US despite scores of scientific publications demonstrating its role in abnormal sexual development. Almost insoluble in water, atrazine contaminates drinking water supplies at 30 times the concentration demonstrated to cause severe sexual abnormalities in animal models.

    Recently unsealed court do ents from the lawsuit have disclosed how Syngenta launched a multimillion-dollar campaign to disrepute and suppress scientific research, and influence the US Environmental Protection Agency to prevent a ban on atrazine.


    Tyrone Hayes, a professor of Integrative Biology at UC Berkeley has demonstrated in his research that atrazine leads to health problems, reproductive issues and birth defects. Hayes is a vocal proponent of legislative action to ban the dissemination of atrazine in water supplies. The court do ents showed that Syngenta specifically attacked Hayes’ work with its smear campaign.


    In addition to smear campaigns, Syngenta hired a private detective agency to look into the personal backgrounds of scientists on an advisory panel at the EPA, the judge presiding over the lawsuit, and Hayes. The do ents also reveal a host of third-party organizations and independent "experts" who were on Syngenta’s payroll and supplied with Syngenta’s data in order to make public statements or write op-ed pieces in support of atrazine. Often, these experts were supplied directly with material that company employees edited or wrote.


    Syngenta’s Coverup


    It all started in 1997 when Hayes was employed by Syngenta to study atrazine, which was under review by the EPA. Hayes’ experimental research on the developmental growth of frogs began to reveal that even at levels of atrazine as low as 0.1 parts per billion (ppb), the chemical was capable of causing males to develop as hermaphrodites. Some males developed female organs and were even capable of mating with normal males and producing eggs. As reported in top peer-reviewed journals such as PNAS and Nature, at exposure to 0.1 ppb atrazine the frogs showed extremely reduced levels of testosterone and feminized voice boxes.


    As Hayes amassed data, Syngenta downplayed his results, citing problems with statistics or asking him to repeat studies, often nitpicking or questioning his credibility or scientific skills.


    In 2000, Hayes resigned from the panel. He continued to speak at conferences, publicizing his ongoing research in the lab. Meanwhile, Syngenta employees began to show up at conferences to publicly besmirch his data. Sporadically, the campaign turned into threats of violence. In a Democracy Now interview with Amy Goodman, Hayes said:

    “Tim Pastoor, for example, before I would give a talk, would literally threaten, whisper in my ear that he could have me lynched, or he said he would send some of his 'good ol’ boys to show me what it’s like to be gay,’ or at one point he threatened my wife and my daughter with sexual violence.”

    Shockingly, even though Syngenta settled the lawsuit for $105 million in late 2012 after eight years of litigation, it still maintains that amount of atrazine present in the water is much lower than would be required to cause damage. In an article in Forbes published a week after the New Yorker story, Jon Entine criticized Hayes and claimed that “after numerous follow up studies by the EPA and a score of scientists… evidence of endocrine related problems Hayes claimed to have identified… are nowhere to be found.”

    ...

    http://www.alternet.org/personal-hea...ockery-science



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    Dangerous Pesticides Showing Up More and More In Our Urine and Breast Milk

    In early April, the shocking news that breast milk carries many times the allowable amount of glyphosate, also called Roundup, came out on the web. Glyphosate is a poison that defoliates plants, but back in the late 1990s, farmers began planting soybeans that resisted the chemical, bouncing back from a dowse of Glyphosate like they had just enjoyed a spring rain, while the weeds around them died. The Frankenstein soybeans were followed by releases of genetically modified corn, cotton, canola and sugar beets. Now, many crops carry the gene.

    As a result, according to the release, scientists found glyphosate at “760 to 1600 times higher than the European Drinking Water Directive allows for individual pesticides.” These levels are less than allowable levels set by America’s Environmental Protection Agency. The EPA has been led to believe that glyphosate exits the body and does not ac ulate. How could they think that?


    The answer is that, in an atmosphere of austerity and trade secrets, the government listens to industry scientists. Senior Monsanto scientist Dan Goldstein recently stated “If ingested, glyphosate is excreted rapidly, does not ac ulate in body fat or tissues, and does not undergo metabolism in humans.”


    The website Sustainable Pulse, directed by Henry Rowlands, broke the breast-milk news. Rowlands has been a longtime critic of the biotech industry. Immediately, big ag released criticisms of the study’s small sample numbers, but the assertion that America is drowning in Roundup should be investigated. And the story, co-released by Moms Across America, continued that urine from American consumers had also been tested and researchers found 10 times the glyphosate as urine in European consumers.


    America’s favorite herbicide, Roundup, has been sprayed on an estimated 90% of American farmland, and we don’t know how to go back to normal.

    In fact, American regulators are set to approve even more chemicals for even more genetically modified crops.

    Next summer, dicamba and 2,4D will certainly be approved, making it legal and even recommended for farmers to spray their fields with these elements that were part of Agent Orange, the defoliant used to clear jungles in the Vietnam war.

    While this story might seem to only affect farmers, who continue to plant genetically modified organism (GMO) crops, it should be the major story for American citizens. Not only is this chemical going into future Americans at an alarming rate, denying its regulation is a major part of American international policy.


    Internationally, consumers have rejected GMOs while US trade agreements insist that GMOs be allowed. Russia allows import of GMOs, but insists on labeling if foods contain over 0.9% of the stuff.


    In contrast, the US has insisted, under the sway of Monsanto and other US firms that produce GMOs and chemicals, that it is America’s mission to “feed the world” and that GMOs are the only way to do it. We have, they remind us, nine billion hungry mouths to feed in the future.


    http://www.alternet.org/food/dangero...nd-breast-milk

    US corporations are ing the planet for profit.


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    Sugar May Harm Brain Health


    A poor diet can eat away at brain health. Now a study in Neurology helps elucidate why. It suggests that eating a lot of sugar or other carbohydrates can be hazardous to both brain structure and function.

    Diabetes, which is characterized by chronically high levels of blood glucose, has been linked to an elevated risk of dementia and a smaller hippocampus, a brain region critical for memory. The new study sought to identify whether glucose had an effect on memory even in people without the disease because having it could induce other brain changes that confound the data. In the experiment, researchers at the Charité University Medical Center in Berlin evaluated both short- and long-term glucose markers in 141 healthy, nondiabetic older adults. The participants performed a memory test and underwent imaging to assess the structure of their hippocampus.

    Higher levels on both glucose measures were associated with worse memory, as well as a smaller hippocampus and compromised hippocampal structure. The researchers also found that the structural changes partially accounted for the statistical link between glucose and memory. According to study co-author Agnes Flöel, a neurologist at Charité, the results “provide further evidence that glucose might directly contribute to hippocampal atrophy,” but she cautions that their data cannot establish a causal relation between sugar and brain health.


    These findings indicate that even in the absence of diabetes or glucose intolerance, higher blood sugar may harm the brain and disrupt memory function. Future research will need to characterize how glucose exerts these effects and whether dietary or lifestyle interventions might reverse such pathological changes.


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    What a load of BS.

    What is the background of whoever wrote that propaganda?

    Next summer, dicamba and 2,4D will certainly be approved, making it legal and even recommended for farmers to spray their fields with these elements that were part of Agent Orange, the defoliant used to clear jungles in the Vietnam war.

    Dicamba and 2,4 d have been approved for a long long time.

    New gmo beans with resistance will be approved. Totally different things.

    If your complainng about toxicity of herbicide don't start whining about GMO's. Those chems were used and still are on non gmo.



    Comparing 24d to agent orange is a lot like saying water is bad because it's used in alcohol.

    24d was NOT the problem component in agent orange. How can someone pretend it is?

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    she cautions that their data cannot establish a causal relation between sugar and brain health.

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    "Next summer, dicamba and 2,4D will certainly be approved"

    absolutely does not mean those or any others approved by BigChem's marketing arm, the FDA/USDA, are safe. The captured regulatory agencies "throw it out there" because the corps say it's ok, then see if kill/maims people, animals, etc.

    Same with BigPharma, throw out there, see what happens.

    Hilarious how you right-wingers ABSOLUTELY HATE govt but trust it with your and the environment's health.





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    I don't know all the biological science between thse, but what I gather, regular table sugar and HFCS have the same two molecule components. The difference is table sugar is made from sugar cane, beets, etc, and the fructose glucose content are a perfect 50%/50%. It is a more stable molecule and not absorbed in the stomach, but requires metabolism in the small intestine. This leads to positive nutrition for the gut flora to digest our foods. HFCS on the other hand are not in this complimentary 50/50 mix, processed to enhance sweetness, and much of the molecules break down in the stomach, being more immediately dissolved in our bloodstream rather than being broken down before entering the bloodstream. Once the glucose-fructose bond is broken, it can directly pass into the blood. Probably why it is sweeter also. Breaks down more readily in out mouth.

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    I don't know all the biological science between thse, but what I gather, regular table sugar and HFCS have the same two molecule components. The difference is table sugar is made from sugar cane, beets, etc, and the fructose glucose content are a perfect 50%/50%. It is a more stable molecule and not absorbed in the stomach, but requires metabolism in the small intestine. This leads to positive nutrition for the gut flora to digest our foods. HFCS on the other hand are not in this complimentary 50/50 mix, processed to enhance sweetness, and much of the molecules break down in the stomach, being more immediately dissolved in our bloodstream rather than being broken down before entering the bloodstream. Once the glucose-fructose bond is broken, it can directly pass into the blood. Probably why it is sweeter also. Breaks down more readily in out mouth.
    Where did you get this?

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    It's so full of wrong, did you make something up, again?

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