For me it goes like this:
1) 1984 - MJ, Dream, Barkley, Stockton
2) 1996 - Kobe, AI, Ray Allen, Nash
3) 2003 - LBJ, Wade, Melo, Bosh
4) 1997 Jim
Discuss sons.
1997 draft was weak outside of Duncan, everyone knows this, so I don't get the
2003 is a much better draft than 1996. Best player since Jordan and possibly the 2nd best SG of all-time (Wade will pass Jerry West on the SG list if the Heat win this year and he contributes).
'96 is a way overrated draft. iso players like AI and Kobe are the best it has to offer. that's not enough to make it better than the 2003 draft IMO.
'97 draft just plain sucked outside of TD and I guess Tmac. Not sure why it's on your list. When chauncey billups is the third best player in a draft, you know it's pretty ty.
'84 and '03 are neck and neck for the GOAT draft. I guess the edge has to go to 84.
The Kang didn't win in Cleveland PERIOD. He had to collude with two of the best players in his draft class to win.1997 draft was weak outside of Duncan, everyone knows this, so I don't get the
2003 is a much better draft than 1996. Best player since Jordan and possibly the 2nd best SG of all-time (Wade will pass Jerry West on the SG list if the Heat win this year and he contributes).
Hsd he not done that, he's likely still Paul Pierce's .
1. 2003 - the GOAT went 1st overall, can't rank this draft lower than #1 for that reason alone
2. 1984 - Hakeem, Barkley, Stockton, etc.
3. 1996 - seriously, Alfredo - a role player like Kirby quitting on two teams and forcing his way to the Lakers is enough for you to rank this one over 2003?
4. 1997 - one-player draft, Vancouver got screwed
How many all star appearances, all NBA selections, and rangs does 1996 have - when compared to 2003? Do you see now why they're ranked higher? 1984 is in a class by themselves.
Kirby cried his way onto the Lakers, who were stacked, on draft night.
He sticks with Charlotte, and he's remembered like T-Mac is today.
'96 isn't all that great. I mean the most valuable player from that draft (in terms of contributing to a championship team) is Ray Allen.
And if Jim wasn't protected like he was, he's Brad Daughtery, and the Anaheim Spurs are rangless.
Saying that while Kirby is the most ref dependent superstar of all-timeAnd if Jim wasn't protected like he was, he's Brad Daughtery, and the Anaheim Spurs are rangless.
Yeah, Kirb's agent (at Kirb's request) basically strong-armed Calipari into passing on Bryant.Team Bryant wanted it to happen. Only Calipari still was enthralled. [Agent ArnTellem] spun a 180 and now began claiming Bryant wouldn’t show up in Jersey, began saying they’d send the kid to play pro ball in Italy, where he’d spent much of his youth. Everyone now admits it was an idle threat. ‘Arn [wanted the Nets to draft him] until he knew he could get him to the Lakers,’ Calipari said. ‘Then he was against it. Arn was all over me,
To me Kirby has always been in this interesting position of technically being a role player on a championship contender but being a superstar, 1st ballot hall of famer if you just consider basketball to be 1 on 5.
I was rewatching his 49 point performance the other day. Jesus ing christ it's embarrassing the extent to which he stagnates the offense. There's no coherent movement. There's no involvement. It's just Kobe 1 on 1 shooting (and making) semi-contested shots. He's ing incredible at making those shots but in terms of adding value to an ideal championship team he's nothing more than a glorified role player.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRa3QXoppJ0
Two quits in one day before playing a nanosecond of NBA basketball, yet people ignore it and obsess over The Decision instead.... Christ!
look at the score throughout the game. Kobe is beasting 1 on 1, 1 on 3, etc. and yet the Lakers seem perennially down
If the NBA ins uted a 5 second shot clock instead of a 24 second shot clock, Kobe would literally be the GOAT because there would be no time to develop a 5 player set and 1 on 5 play would be highly cherished.
Granted, 2003 Tim Duncan was literally no different than Kobe Bryant, and the extent to which Tim stagnated the offense back then was no different than how Kobe stagnated the offense throughout his run.
This. As I've said in other threads, the NBA has passed Kobe and the Lakers by. As Rick Carlisle said, "Slow play equals death." A team built around Kobe 25 times in the post will get massacred in today's game. Kobe might get his 30, but the Lakers will lose by 20.
It's why the Spurs don't run 4-down anymore, even though Tim could probably score 30 against Bosh in that scheme. All of Duncan's points now come off movement within the offense and the occasional jumper. The NBA is about system more than individual players matching up in ISO sets. It's why the Spurs were able to beat OKC relatively easily despite being much less talented. Heat are so good because they have Lebron, but they also have a system. Why it was so easy to plug Rashard Lewis in despite him not playing in months.
Nice clip, though. Belongs on the History Channel now as a relic of a bygone age
Back then you could get away with it, especially when you had an elite defense.
Speaks volumes to Tim's ability and basketball IQ that he was able to evolve as the game evolved.
I'm curious, do any Lakerfans seriously think the 2008 Lakers would stand a chance against the '14 Heat or '14 Spurs
I see you reading this thread cupcakeSpeak up LkrFan
Of course they doI'm curious, do any Lakerfans seriously think the 2008 Lakers would stand a chance against the '14 Heat or '14 Spurs
Kobe/Phil Jackson=Gawds. (The triangle is more obsolete than rotary phones).
Their 09/10 le teams would lose to either team, as well.
Still, a ring is a ring.
98 draft also features some future superstars & HOF candidates such as Dirk, Carter, Pierce etc...
Kobe is the best one on one player in NBA history. Of course he'll get freebies.Saying that while Kirby is the most ref dependent superstar of all-time
I had to take a shower. Now I'm back.I see you reading this thread cupcake
I like Lkrfan, but he's just a boxscore watcher these days and doesn't really keep up with how the modern game has evolved. He still rates teams by the strength of their individual talent and their PPG, I assume.I see you reading this thread cupcake
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