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  1. #76
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    Kirby fans are getting desperate, thinking making back-to-back Finals against at 37/38 is somehow a bad thing. If anything, it just widens the gap between Tim and Kirby.

    Next year, Kirby will have led the Lakers to the lottery for the 3rd time since '05. Does any all-time great have that on their resume?
    True or False: if OKC were healthy, do you guys make it past them this year or last?

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    And it's STILL Kobe 5, Jim 2.
    You mean Tim 3, Kobe 2.

    Finals MVPs are an individual award and should be used when comparing two players.

    Rings are a team accomplishment, and the Lakers do in fact have 5 to the Spurs 4 in this era, unfortunately.

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    lol kirby fans taking credit win for a gold medal he played no part in, just like the shaq 3peat lakers and paus b2b championships
    ZERO bronze medalsPERIOD. Repeated as champion at least oncePERIOD.

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    And it's STILL Kobe 5, Jim 2.
    what's the 5 and 2?

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    True or False: if OKC were healthy, do you guys make it past them this year or last?
    Ibaka was jumping around like the ape he is in games 5 and 6 and it made zero difference. OKC got blown out just the same in game 5 and lost to the Spurs for the first time in two years on their home court in game 6, with Tim wrecking Ibaka's in OT. You also forget we played the majority of that game without Parker.

    The evidence supports him making no difference.

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    You mean Tim 3, Kobe 2.

    Finals MVPs are an individual award and should be used when comparing two players.

    Rings are a team accomplishment, and the Lakers do in fact have 5 to the Spurs 4 in this era, unfortunately.
    FMVPs are (white) media awards. Ever since Colorado...you know the rest.

    Unless you value MVPs over rangs, your argument holds no weight. I mean, the goal is to win championships. That's why they play (besides the s they can buy with all that cash ).

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    FMVPs are (white) media awards. Ever since Colorado...you know the rest.

    Unless you value MVPs over rangs, your argument holds no weight. I mean, the goal is to win championships. That's why they play (besides the s they can buy with all that cash ).
    Um, Kobe won his only FMVPs after Colorado.

    And of course the goal is to win les, which is why you compare teams and not players. It takes a team to win a le.

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    [QUOTE=midnightpulp;7405791]Ibaka was jumping around like the ape he is in games 5 and 6 and it made zero difference. OKC got blown out just the same in game 5 and lost to the Spurs for the first time in two years on their home court in game 6, with Tim wrecking Ibaka's in OT. You also forget we played the majority of that game without Parker.

    The evidence supports him making no difference.[/QUOTE]

    1) They spotted you guys two games
    2) Tim played a 68% Ibaka (at best).
    3) Did not Ibaka shoot 100% against Jim when healthy at least once?
    4) Doesn't Chuckbrook dominate Enrique - when healthy? So Enrique being out is no factor.

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    Um, Kobe won his only FMVPs after Colorado.

    And of course the goal is to win les, which is why you compare teams and not players. It takes a team to win a le.
    Even Bird said Kobe deserved more than one mvp. As far as FMVP, who cares?

    Yeah, but Duncan ed up your 5th all by himself.

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    Yeah, you're really spinning.

    Acting like you know how healthy Ibaka was or wasn't.

    Proof OKC wins any of the first two games with a healthy Ibaka?

    That's right, you have none.

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    this clown still trying to claim credit of vanessa 2.5 rings as his for total of 5rings?

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    what's the 5 and 2?
    Bronze Medal and (HOFer patent-pending) back to back Finals losses = deduction in rang totals.

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    Even Bird said Kobe deserved more than one mvp. As far as FMVP, who cares?

    Yeah, but Duncan ed up your 5th all by himself.
    Duncan was excellent in the Finals. The series wasn't lost on that missed layup.

    Now this is how you singlehandedly lose a Finals:

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...html#LAL::none

    4-23 from downtown

    So Kobe obviously did care about the FMVP. He chucked the Lakers out of a le trying to win one

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    Yeah, you're really spinning.

    Acting like you know how healthy Ibaka was or wasn't.

    Proof OKC wins any of the first two games with a healthy Ibaka?

    That's right, you have none.
    Despite what you are posting, you were one of the 1,000s of Spur Fans that wanted no parts of OKC. Admit it sn

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    Duncan was excellent in the Finals. The series wasn't lost on that missed layup.

    Now this is how you singlehandedly lose a Finals:

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...html#LAL::none

    4-23 from downtown

    So Kobe obviously did care about the FMVP. He chucked the Lakers out of a le trying to win one
    Oh, and out rebounded by Derek Fisher, in the ing Finals .

    dat Lkrfan

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    Duncan was excellent in the Finals. The series wasn't lost on that missed layup.

    Now this is how you singlehandedly lose a Finals:

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...html#LAL::none

    4-23 from downtown

    So Kobe obviously did care about the FMVP. He chucked the Lakers out of a le trying to win one
    2004 Pistons and 2008 Cs are two of the greatest defensive teams in NBA history. Their perimeter and interior defenses were elite. OTOH, Jim faced Bosh e and Turdman. Big difference son.

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    Oh, and out rebounded by Derek Fisher, in the ing Finals .

    dat Lkrfan
    Reeeeeeaching son. Must be mad. tee hee

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    2004 Pistons and 2008 Cs are two of the greatest defensive teams in NBA history. Their perimeter and interior defenses were elite. OTOH, Jim faced Bosh e and Turdman. Big difference son.
    Manu had no problem shooting over 45% against that same team the very next year. He also had no problem getting over 5 boards.

    Keep son

    Kirby blew that Finals in a vain pursuit for the FMVP. Everyone knows this.

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    Manu had no problem shooting over 45% against that same team the very next year. He also had no problem getting over 5 boards.

    Keep son

    Kirby blew that Finals in a vain pursuit for the FMVP. Everyone knows this.
    Manu > Kobe. Got it.

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    Manu > Kobe. Got it.
    Glad you're listening to reason.

    Although Manu singlehandedly blew a Finals as well, so I guess they're even.

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    Kirby's averages from the 2004 finals:
    2004: 22.6 ppg, 4.4 apg, 2.8 rpg, 1.8 steals, .6 blocks, 3.6 turnovers, 38% shooting

    Shaq's averages from the 2004 finals:
    2004: 26.6 ppg, 10.8 rpg, 1.6 apg, .6 blocks, 63.1% shooting, 49% FT

    Looking forward to how Renato tries to dis

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    Watched NBA TV's special on the 1984 draft yesterday


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    Glad they had a segment on Oscar Schmidt too; destroyed Murica

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    Kirby's averages from the 2004 finals:
    2004: 22.6 ppg, 4.4 apg, 2.8 rpg, 1.8 steals, .6 blocks, 3.6 turnovers, 38% shooting

    Shaq's averages from the 2004 finals:
    2004: 26.6 ppg, 10.8 rpg, 1.6 apg, .6 blocks, 63.1% shooting, 49% FT

    Looking forward to how Renato tries to dis
    Your wish is my command son. After The Split! Kobe 2 Snaq 1


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    Your wish is my command son. After The Split! MVPau 2 Daddy 1

    fify

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    So predictable. Kinda like a 2nd round Clipper lss

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