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    "The Detroit Bad Guys"


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    The dominance of superstars generally translates well from era-to-era, as we have seen throughout history..Dad Killer is a GOAT candidate, of course he would dominate in any era..

    The difference is usually non-superstars across eras, they wouldn't be able to play against today's athletes, obviously..

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    I'm gonna shed a tear when Hubie either hangs up the mic or passes away. That guy taught me the game of basketball with his commentary when I was knee high. Unlike these commentators today with their constant babble like Jeff Van Gundy and Mark Jackson with his corny "mama there goes that man" catchphrases Hubie used to break the game down and educate.

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    Jesus Christ I am so tired of hearing about the physicality of Jordan's era. The bad boys got away with it but as Jordan's aura and legacy grew you could not touch him in the playoffs. I'm 33 and watched his whole career closely and in the playoffs if the Knicks were looking at him cross eyed it was a foul..

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    Jesus Christ I am so tired of hearing about the physicality of Jordan's era. The bad boys got away with it but as Jordan's aura and legacy grew you could not touch him in the playoffs. I'm 33 and watched his whole career closely and in the playoffs if the Knicks were looking at him cross eyed it was a foul..
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    Oscar also benefited from playing an era that was very fast paced. Faster the pace, the more possessions you get to try and score.

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    We are talking about a guy in Jordan that commits an obvious and blatant offensive foul to win his 6th chip.. The refs the 2nd half of his career really coddled him..

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    Oscar also benefited from playing an era that was very fast paced. Faster the pace, the more possessions you get to try and score.
    Oscar was a great player but if he were playing today would he be so much better than a prime Kobe or tooling Lebron on the court?

    No way..

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    We are talking about a guy in Jordan that commits an obvious and blatant offensive foul to win his 6th chip.. The refs the 2nd half of his career really coddled him..
    Jordan's the GOAT obviously but he also had the benefit of playing in the pre-internet era. The guy was a s bag off the court but nobody really knew it back then since their only source of information came from television and newspapers. Nowadays, everything is scrutinized to the smallest detail.

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    Jesus Christ I am so tired of hearing about the physicality of Jordan's era. The bad boys got away with it but as Jordan's aura and legacy grew you could not touch him in the playoffs. I'm 33 and watched his whole career closely and in the playoffs if the Knicks were looking at him cross eyed it was a foul..
    Watch a Bulls-Jazz Finals game again... Then look at an OKC game... You'll appreciate Jordan's greatness

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    We are talking about a guy in Jordan that commits an obvious and blatant offensive foul to win his 6th chip.. The refs the 2nd half of his career really coddled him..
    It really wasn't that bad. I seriously doubt Jordan could push a 240 pound Russell with one hand and make him fall while simultaneously crossing back over into his shot. Russell was already juked and losing his balance anyway. Jordan just helped him along a bit

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    Jordan's the GOAT obviously but he also had the benefit of playing in the pre-internet era. The guy was a s bag off the court but nobody really knew it back then since their only source of information came from television and newspapers. Nowadays, everything is scrutinized to the smallest detail.
    He gave money to people all the time, spent time with sick kids after games without the media knowing... You're silly if you think Jordan would be affected by little virgins criticizing him on twitter. The guy had no heart... He benefited from playing in a pre-internet era? Imagine him in today's era where players can't handcheck and touch you on defense. He benefited?

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    I'm gonna shed a tear when Hubie either hangs up the mic or passes away. That guy taught me the game of basketball with his commentary when I was knee high. Unlike these commentators today with their constant babble like Jeff Van Gundy and Mark Jackson with his corny "mama there goes that man" catchphrases Hubie used to break the game down and educate.
    The worst thing about Mark Jackson and his catchphrases? He says "hand down, man down" even when the defender has a hand in his face lol

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    Watch a Bulls-Jazz Finals game again... Then look at an OKC game... You'll appreciate Jordan's greatness
    I saw all of it.. I was living in NY watching the refs blow the whistle in the 4th quarter every time he drove the ball.. In the media back then it was no secret he was being coddled..

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    The worst thing about Mark Jackson and his catchphrases? He says "hand down, man down" even when the defender has a hand in his face lol
    This. They were cutting to commercials yesterday and he said that catchphrase when Timmy had his hand in Lebron's face on a 3

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    Jesus Christ I am so tired of hearing about the physicality of Jordan's era. The bad boys got away with it but as Jordan's aura and legacy grew you could not touch him in the playoffs. I'm 33 and watched his whole career closely and in the playoffs if the Knicks were looking at him cross eyed it was a foul..
    So you were, what, 9 during the 91 finals? You thinking you could break down games at 9. You're too young to even comment on what generation was good, because youve seen 2. The late 90s until now. , you probably think the coolest thing ever was Jason Williams and Webber on the Kings. And1 Ohhhh baby.

    Hubie is correct in his analysis of defense. The hand check and getting to the rim would crush players like lebron and durant who dont like contact.

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    I'm gonna shed a tear when Hubie either hangs up the mic or passes away. That guy taught me the game of basketball with his commentary when I was knee high. Unlike these commentators today with their constant babble like Jeff Van Gundy and Mark Jackson with his corny "mama there goes that man" catchphrases Hubie used to break the game down and educate.
    This. Hube is a great basketball mind, love that guy.

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    Btw great vid OP. Hubie makes great points, and the "guards and small forwards have the green light to go to the rim now" due to defensive rule changes solely meant to handcuff defenses to help out speedy finesse players (not to mention the FTA food stamps for said players) are exactly why I don't think players now are "the best athletes" of NBA history. They're faster, yes. They're also weaker and softer.

    A player like Westbrook who gloats after every play would be in the hospital several times a year if he played in the 80's. I would love to see Westbrook try to get a layup with Bill Lambeer in the paint on a play after he dunks then screams a taunt.


    This. They were cutting to commercials yesterday and he said that catchphrase when Timmy had his hand in Lebron's face on a 3
    That's EXACTLY the play I had in mind when I posted that too. It's like he doesn't even watch the damn games.

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    The worst thing about Mark Jackson and his catchphrases? He says "hand down, man down" even when the defender has a hand in his face lol
    What does "Man down" even mean?

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    I saw all of it.. I was living in NY watching the refs blow the whistle in the 4th quarter every time he drove the ball.. In the media back then it was no secret he was being coddled..
    I didin't watch his era, I saw his finals games on Hardwood Classics. Maybe you think he started getting ref help because the league did soften up after the "Jordan Rules" , but it had to be. IMO it wasn't Jordan's fault, the Celtics and Knicks got away with murder. The Pistons softened the league up, just like OKC will be the reason the league will toughen up soon.

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    he really wouldn't be as good in today's 3 point dominant basketball.

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    What does "Man down" even mean?
    Honestly, I have no in clue. It rhymes. . .that's about it.

    Maybe he's trying to pretend like hitting a jumper is like "killing" the defensive player. Scorer's arrogance I guess.

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    Isnt MJ like 50 by now? No way he could keep up with 23 year olds

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    I feel like he means if your hand is down the defense is a man down because that defender might as well not be playing. It's stupid just like him.

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    What does "Man down" even mean?
    Player #1 got an uncontested jumper because Player #2 had his arms down. If he makes the shot, he "owned" the defender

    The guy keeps handing us genius quotes
    "Kobe will be Jordan's equal"
    "Lebron is already better than Bird"
    "I have the best shooting duo of all time"
    "What makes Duncan a good teammate and Kobe a bad one?"
    "Manu shouldn't of gotten so close to Wade, it would've avoided a flop"
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