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Facts.
How you interpret them is irrelevant.
Facts are facts.
The thing about facts are, you can rail and rage and deny all you want... it doesn't change them regardless of your opinion.
Last edited by phyzik; 06-11-2014 at 11:06 PM.
Ok cool....thanks for a non-factual opinion
Not stating an opinion, stating a fact. You are the one with the opinion. Based on math, Duncan is superior to Kobe... Fact. Rail and rage all you want Kool. You cant beat math no matter how much you slurp that kobe pole.
On individual stats that actually show the importance of a player to a team. Individual accolades such as 2 RSMVPs > 1 RSMVP and 3 FMVPs > 2 FMVPs. And the most important thing of all, actually seeing both play and having the intellect to realize that Duncan is the much more impactful player of the two.
^ what kind of 3rd grade analysis is this..did the teacher ask you to present at show and tell..
epic fail dude
why every season these gots always bringin up the rapists in comparisons to another player who has already exceeded or rank higher?
tryin to stay relevant?
Duncan has been doing it longer and better than Kobe, there is no doubt about it. Rings are the only thing kobe pole smokers have to hold on to now and that is about to disappear. Take the Rings away and apply math, Duncan is inarguably the better and more effective player than Kobe ever was. That will be a moot point though in about 2 or 3 more games when Duncan rings again.
Duncan just surpassed the messiah of lala land with double doubles, Kobe isn't even close. Duncan can still play another 2-3 years or more if he wants... Kobe is pretty much done.
Lets do this....
without looking at which player has what stats, tell me honestly who you would want as an alpha dog. (of course we all know you are gonna look up the stats and slurp that kobe pole)
Player 1:
Wins 27
MPG 36.8
FG% .451
ORB 2.8
DRB 8.8
TRB 11.6
AST 3.4
STL 0.7
BLK 1.8
TOV 2.3
PTS 19.4
Player 2:
Wins 20
MPG 38.3
FG% .435
ORB 1.1
DRB 4.5
TRB 5.6
AST 4.3
STL 1.3
BLK 0.6
TOV 3.1
PTS 24.8
This is a test of your BBall knowledge... Lets see who you choose. Even if you choose who I expect you to choose, the math says you are wrong. If you choose the right player, you invalidate Kobe.
Last edited by phyzik; 06-11-2014 at 11:37 PM.
ahhhh.....stretch....yawn..... and fart.....
It beats the out of 5 > 4, imho.
What a gripping and compelling argument... will recommend to friends and family.
Terrible article, and you for posting it. The Spurs have been the greatest franchise in all of professional sports over the past 15 years.
Damn...that's great info for someone who recently hop on the bandwagon. No diss.ROFl. No, its not like Timmy got injured on his way to his first le defense and its not like that s bag Juwan Howard took out Derek Anderson in 00-01 season. That never happened.
they've been making preparations with the foundation of excuses as soon as they got past the blazers. Then they went to work after okc was eliminated.
Terrible article for one simple reason: He is crediting Kobe for the Lakers' entire team's success. If he is saying JUST Lakers vs Spurs, and not including Duncan and Kobe. . .then it has merit. The pure fact that's he's crossing over and involving the players is where his entire argument falls flat.
Kobe Bryant's teammates have gotten more all star selections than Duncan's. Kobe also had MANY already established all star players inserted into his team to help out. He has also had a SUPERIOR PLAYER as a teammate for the first HALF of his career in Shaq. Yeah, the guy either winning the MVP or coming in second place. . .to Tim Duncan.
Kobe's help has been far greater, which devalues all of his accomplishments. Mostly every year he had Shaq, but it isn't like his team didn't just buy Pau Gasol and Ron Artest and others since rookies and role players weren't blossoming under Kobe's "leadership".
The Spurs (and Duncan) are more impressive because they accomplished the same number of les yet with more wins and better consistency with less athletic talent and far less money and free-agent drawing ability at their disposal. In fact, I believe the Lakers' salary has been averaging at least 30-33% above SA's on a yearly basis. 50% higher if you include luxury tax.
With a win, Spurs will also have gone 5 in 6 vs 5 in 7. Article also ignores playoff appearances and WCF appearances solely to harp on the one extra Finals appearance.
Spurs fans still trying to argue with these adolescent acting Lakers "fans". They don't care about Kobe v Duncan.
Their threads are nothing but in a brown paper bag lit on fire thrown on the porch of spurstalk. They start a thread then run behind the bushes giggling jerking each other off while watching spur fan trying to stomp it out.
CASE CLOSED!Terrible article for one simple reason: He is crediting Kobe for the Lakers' entire team's success. If he is saying JUST Lakers vs Spurs, and not including Duncan and Kobe. . .then it has merit. The pure fact that's he's crossing over and involving the players is where his entire argument falls flat.
Kobe Bryant's teammates have gotten more all star selections than Duncan's. Kobe also had MANY already established all star players inserted into his team to help out. He has also had a SUPERIOR PLAYER as a teammate for the first HALF of his career in Shaq. Yeah, the guy either winning the MVP or coming in second place. . .to Tim Duncan.
Kobe's help has been far greater, which devalues all of his accomplishments. Mostly every year he had Shaq, but it isn't like his team didn't just buy Pau Gasol and Ron Artest and others since rookies and role players weren't blossoming under Kobe's "leadership".
The Spurs (and Duncan) are more impressive because they accomplished the same number of les yet with more wins and better consistency with less athletic talent and far less money and free-agent drawing ability at their disposal. In fact, I believe the Lakers' salary has been averaging at least 30-33% above SA's on a yearly basis. 50% higher if you include luxury tax.
With a win, Spurs will also have gone 5 in 6 vs 5 in 7. Article also ignores playoff appearances and WCF appearances solely to harp on the one extra Finals appearance.
Not that it ever was valid, (the * season) but when the Spurs went on to win more les it lost all it's merit.
Not sure why this is even brought up — the Kobe/Shaq Lakers were one of the most dominant teams in NBA history and no championship team since then has been able to duplicate how impactful the team was in the era. Kobe/Shaq/Phil and their roleplayers were some of the most impressive teams of NBA history.
Only thing we have on the Lakers this generation is consistency and longevity. There's really nothing to be embarrassed about as a Spurs fan because we've always been good, and legitimate contenders, since 1998. The Lakers have many, many dark periods and blights throughout their history despite probably the best winning legacy in the NBA.
Unlike many immature people I have an immense respect for the Lakers franchise and recognize they traditionally have a winning culture, it's a real shame they've gone far away from that since their les years ago. The NBA is so much better when there are a lot of quality teams, it's a real shame that this "LeBron era" of the NBA has been full of terrible teams with only a handful of legitimate teams.
kirby probably waiting by his pay phone why lebron or nobody calling him to join them or joining him....
The article didn't mention Shaq once? Really? Not once?
You can subs ute Horry for Kobe, and say that he won all 7 championships instead of 5 out of 7, and you can see how ridiculously stupid this piece of "writing" is.
clearly that went over your head, Chump
But still, there's not a sport in the world that would recognize 5 rings in 16 years (if it indeed happens), no repeats, as being better than 5 rings in 11 years, with a 3peat and another repeat. Spurs fans can continue with their small market complex syndrome, doesn't change the fact that the Lakers are the NBA's premier franchise post-Jordan.
Last edited by IrisHockey; 06-12-2014 at 01:39 PM.
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