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sean over Kawhi
I have this thing running, where I put together all time rosters for every NBA franchise.
This is how it looks like for the Spurs at them moment (better said, about a year ago):
Top8:
C: D.Robinson
PF: T.Duncan
SF: G.Gervin
SG: E.Ginobili
PG: T.Parker
BenchBig: A.Gilmore
BenchMedium: S.Eliott
BenchSmall: A.Robertson
Specialists (don't have to be top players):
DefBig: D.Rodman (maybe Willis)
StretchBig: R.Horry
Stopper: B.Bowen
Shooter: S.Kerr
Playmaker: A.Johnson
Glueguy: P.Mills
Enforcer: S.Jackson
Coach: G.Popovich
Is it already time to put Kawhi in Sean's spot? And where does that leave Sean?
sean over Kawhi
Quite obvious you didn't watch the Spurs before seven years ago.
Gervin is a 2 guard not a small forward. No way could Manu hold Gervin's jock. Gervin would be a 25 to 30 pt scorer in the league today. Give him teammates like Duncan and David Robinson he might score more with all the open looks he would get.
It's hard to take Leonard at this point over Elliott, but he is the real deal, he is beginning to remind me of a young Scottie Pippen. If he continues to improve, I could see him being the cornerstone of this franchise and yes, way better than Elliott
Ever hear of Terry mings?
Rdman.
Actually I'm following them 20 years now...not seen much of Gervin...had mings in at one point (but at which spot superbigtime???)...had Willis over Rodman at one point, but thinking of Rodman's defense on Malone made me flip it back).
Your insight is appreciated. Keep it coming!
Maybe putting mings in for Gilmore, putting Gilmore in the DefBig Slot, switching Gervin to SG, Manu to Bench small/med, Leonard SF starter?
There are guys up in the rafters that didn't make your list? Silas? Moore? Don't forget Mike Mitc too.
All names I was thinking of (and when I recall corectly, hat at least Mitchel and Silas in at one point)...but yeah, when it comes to cutting a player, I may prefer hanging onto players I followed for years. (after all this are the players we won ships with)
Just let me know your list! (even lists from other teams are appreciated, but I think that should wait until we got one more win and the Draft ist over).
I like this kind of game.
I'd put Gervin in as a small forward as well. Who cares if he's a 2 more than a 3? That would get Ginobili into the starting five.
I don't know why you're restricting yourself to eight players. Kawhi can be in there.
I think it was just more surprise by me that we've been so lucky over the years to have such a talented crop of players without many high draft picks (and the only two #1's in the lottery era who've won with their original teams).
Let's get this thing over with so we can focus full time on the World Cup, while Miami fans smoke the pipe that will bring them Melo. You're in Germany, you pulling for Die Manschaft - looking very strong and should overcome the Reus injury with that much depth in the midfield.
Kawhis nickname should be ninja
This is where playing for Pop and winning championships hurts your legacy - stats.
Ginobili would have been a 25-30ppg scorer on another team that asked him to do more. Look at Harden on the Rockets, vs Harden on OKC. Instant jump from 15ish ppg to 25.
Kick out traitor Jax, insert mings as enforcer. If you love Jax so much, consider replacing Kerr with him. Also, I'd replace Avery w Johnny Moore.
Spurs top 5 right now:
1st team:
C Robinson
PF Duncan
SF Leonard
SG Gervin
PG Parker
2nd team:
C Gilmore
PF mings (He made two all stars with the Spurs and was a beast before his injury). Rodman could make a run at this spot as well but considering he hated the team I would leave him off.
SF Elliott or Bowen (depends if the Spurs wanted to go offensively or defensively)
SG Manu
PG Robertson (Robertson probably was the best defensive PG ever to play the game).
Just wanted to make up some rules that keep me thinking...8 players which could be kind of a basik star 8man rotation (the Bobcats one doesn't deserve this name)...and specialists to make room for guys like Kerr etc.
If I'd just go 15 best players or even more, it wouldn't be that much fun (the real fun is, when you have to cut Lakers/Celtics).
The glueguy and enforcer things are pretty hard especially for other teams (and I'm sure I'm not 100% on point regarding my Spurs choices).
Agree with 1st team (and already changed it) which was the point of the thread. But without 5 slots for 2nd team (only 3 + room for specialists), where would you put the other guys?
PG Parker
SG Gervin
SF Leonard (more alpha than Elliott; more well-rounded than Bowen)
PF Duncan
C Robinson
6th Man Ginobili
Bowen over Luck the Fakers, for sure.
Kawhi over both of them though. His ceiling us almost limitless. He might already be the best defender in the NBA, is becoming a serious offensive threat, and is just 22. Incredible. Another draft steal of the year by the Spurs. People who have been saying he can't create for himself have been REKT these past two games.
Kawhi could realistically go down as a top 5 Spurs player of all time. That's pretty ridiculous to even have a shot at it, considering the other top 5 are lock down first ballot hall of famers (Duncan, Drob, gervin, Parker, Manu)
Exactly. And while I love Patty Mills, he doesn't deserve ANY spot on an all-time Spurs roster period.
Sean Elliott in his prime was as good as Bowen defensively, but could also drop 20 points a night on you.
You people have zero memories before 2005.
Yeah, but thats the point: It's not the 15 best players but the 8 best players (and maybe even not this, if 6 of them have been centers for examble) and the best guys at certain things.
So the question shouldn't be: "Was there a better player than Patty", but "was there a player thats not in the top8 youd rather have as your glueguy"?
Dominique. He held that team together before Tim came on board. Give him a spot.
You already have Mills there but you don't have Kawhi?!
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