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Patty invented the 'ring alley oop' that allowed Kawhi to monster the Heat. He deserves a few bucks for that.
my terms : if i win, you pay 50 bucks, if you win i stop posting until you said.
You asked for terms, which suggests you had interest in a wager.
I provided terms.
If they are not acceptable, suggest others. Otherwise, I'll accept your lame response as tacit admission that you realized the absurdity of your post.
Patty invented the 'ring alley oop' that allowed Kawhi to monster the Heat. He deserves a few bucks for that.
Patty is good at:
Team cohesiveness - he was great in the locker room in Portland and clearly has brought such skills to the spurs - witness the 'frogging' and selfies etc in the Spurs this past 12 months.
Public relations - he is a great interview and has always been a good club rep.
Showing value of hard work and hence leadership - Sure he's not a leader on the floor, but showing up cut, fit and ready to play is motivating to other bench players.
Improvement - Patty has always improved every year. His stats this year are great and he has been much more consistent.
Trust - he has been a great professional in his time so far. Pop clearly trusts him as Diaw said post game that two guys have a green light to shoot DG and Patty.
Those terms are acceptable to me.
To restate:
This wager concerns the first year salary of Patty Mill's next contract (reputable source like Woj or Sham).
If the first year salary is 7.5 million dollars or more, you win.
Less than 7.5 million dollars, I win.
If you win, I pay you $50.00
If I win, you don't post anywhere on SpursTalk from the day the contract is signed until the day the 2015 NBA Finals end.
Acknowledge this post to accept the wager.
Mid-season I suggested we should make re-signing Diaw and Mills a priority as they perfectly fit the Spurs system, Mills is a young core piece still improving, and Diaw is a perfect vet with diverse skills.
At that time I hoped Mills might take 12-14/3yrs, and Diaw 10/2, but given their superb seasons how about Mills 20/4 and Diaw 15/3. Diaw might turn out to be an overpay in the final year but that he's worth 7.5 the way he fits the system, so who cares?
Mills is not coming back. Someone will offer him much more in money and role. 3 year/15 mil deal as a sixth man. I think Lakers, Magic, or 76ers. Spurs will spend their cash on leonard and diaw.
No lol, Kawhi will still be on his rookie contract next season. 2015-2016 is when he'll get paid $$$
I think that they'll have to give Boris the 3rd year and the total deal could be closer to 20M than to 15M. They simply have to keep Boris if they intend to contend in 2014-15.
Patty could very well command 4yrs/20M on the market. I don't believe he'll get anywhere near that much from the Spurs. I'm sure that both sides will want to continue the relationship, but Patty will have to take less than market value to remain a Spur.
Mills is the best backup PG the Spurs have had since Speedy, even though they are completely different styles of player. I saw Speedy's near-triple double live at AT&T IIRC.
We don't need to pay Kawhi this year, but when we do he'll get near max. He's a young Scottie Pippen... who knows whether he'll ever he a HoFer, but he's the future of the franchise and we will pay him as such.
People see Patty as a 6th man atm because he's playing that role, but if the franchise see him as heir to TP 20/4 would be cheap. He runs the Australian national team, thrives under pressure, I think we'll pay up to 6 a year to keep him and hope he has another level to step up. I think maybe be can (but then he comes from my home town, Canberra, so I may be a little biased).
I think the Big 3 play one more year, then Tim and Manu retire, and TP is offered the choice of a trade or committing to the rebuild as the vet leader. The core going forward looks like Leonard, Green, Mills, Splitter, Baynes, Diaw. Add some smart young athletes, and a vet big FA like Marc Gasol, and that's still a playoff team.
I agreePeople see Patty as a 6th man atm because he's playing that role, but if the franchise see him as heir to TP 20/4 would be cheap. He runs the Australian national team, thrives under pressure, I think we'll pay up to 6 a year to keep him and hope he has another level to step up. I think maybe be can (but then he comes from my home town, Canberra, so I may be a little biased
I think the Big 3 play one more year, then Tim and Manu retire, and TP is offered the choice of a trade or committing to the rebuild as the vet leader. The core going forward looks like Leonard, Green, Mills, Splitter, Baynes, Diaw. Add some smart young athletes, and a vet big FA like Marc Gasol, and that's still a playoff team.He already proved he can win games when the Big 3 sits out
We'll see. Personally, I'd love to see them keep Patty. He's a perfect Spur.People see Patty as a 6th man atm because he's playing that role, but if the franchise see him as heir to TP 20/4 would be cheap. He runs the Australian national team, thrives under pressure, I think we'll pay up to 6 a year to keep him and hope he has another level to step up. I think maybe be can (but then he comes from my home town, Canberra, so I may be a little biased
I think the Big 3 play one more year, then Tim and Manu retire, and TP is offered the choice of a trade or committing to the rebuild as the vet leader. The core going forward looks like Leonard, Green, Mills, Splitter, Baynes, Diaw. Add some smart young athletes, and a vet big FA like Marc Gasol, and that's still a playoff team.
IMO, even if they see him as a future starter, Tony still projects to be the starter for all or most of a 4yr contract for Patty. I don't see the Spurs paying that sort of salary for a backup PG.
We should have an answer by mid-July.
Not sure TP will still be effective at 36. His body has taken a huge pounding and it's starting to show. If he sticks around I reckon he might hand the starting role to Mills in a year or two and play a Manu-type role tearing up 2nd units. We'll see, but one thing I know: the Spurs will make the right decisions about these players. The way they built this team to fit the new-style NBA was masterful (although the 2008-11 transition years were, at times, painful).
I definitely agree with you there. The transformation of the roster from the 2011 to 2014 has been remarkable.
My speculation is that Boris will get a 3 yr deal and Tony will get a 2 yr extension, thus guaranteeing that those two will play together through 2016-2017 (and lining up those two deals with Splitter's contract).
Patty is the hardest for me to predict. He fits perfectly on the team, but his performance this year makes it likely that he will receive offers to be played and paid as a starter. I still believe that Patty will have to sacrifice a significant amount of potential earnings to remain a Spur.
Good call on Boris and TP.
You may be right about Patty, but I hope he has the good sense to take around 20/4 and stay to win some more.
Good call on Boris and TP.
You may be right about Patty, but I hope he has the good sense to take around 20/4 and stay to win some more.
Wish I was in SA right now!
wait for the finals to end though, cause if he doesn't end on a high note, that no way he get's it.
You mean you can't remember?!Mills is the best backup PG the Spurs have had since Speedy, even though they are completely different styles of player. I saw Speedy's near-triple double live at AT&T IIRC.
Mate I thought you were serious about the Spurs!
Agree Mills is probably the best in a long time. I thought Nick Van Exel would have brought what Mills does.... Mills brings the goods although his vision still needs more improvement. He may very well become the next Parker. Parker never had such a sweet shot at 25 though!
I suppose backtracking is better than welshing.
well it's not like i ever said it was a sure thing, which is normal considering i don't believe in the slightest he is worth that money
I suppose backtracking is better than welshing...
well it's not like i ever said it was a sure thing, which is normal considering i don't believe in the slightest he is worth that money
You were willing to bet on it and then you backed out.
Behavior that is wholly consistent with your posting style and not the least bit surprising.
Just admit that you're clueless on this subject and we'll call it a day.
Boris is a no brainer, but Mills is gone is he receives a contract north of what Green got a few years ago. Spurs value that spark plug off the bench, but as we saw will Neal last summer they won't over pay. I bet they see Belli, with a year under his belt, playing that role next year if mills leaves.
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