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Not bad.
PG: Magic
SG: Michael Jordan
C: Kareem
PF: Duncan
SF: Bird
Not bad.
But LeBron has a case at SF
Yeah, I was torn between Lebron and Bird, but I gave the edge to Bird because of his mental toughness and overall leadership.
Bird also accomplished more with far less physical blessings and athletic gifts.
Bird over Lebron for sure.
Updated? Who you had for PF before Timmy rang?
I'd take James over Bird. Bird's better offensively, but I can't imagine Larry Bird locking Tony Parker up in an entire series.
Well James ahs better athleticism
I would love to see Lebron could do if he had Bird's white genes TBH
This is true, but they're different athletes. I can't imagine Lebrun imposing his will like Bird, evident by his paltry 3.8 ppg and 1 assist to 2 turnover ratio in 3 consecutive 4th quarter blowout losses.
Prime Bird got swept by Milwaukee. I'd say LeBron imposed his will pretty well in Game 7 last year.
LeBron over Bird!
Fwiw, it was rumored mcHale and Maxwell laid down and threw the series away because they hated Fitch who was under pressure to improve the Celtics. It's probably not a coincidence that he resigned after the sweep. Bird has nothing to do with it and was fuming.
Lebron's game 7 was great, can't take that away from him but overall I still think Lebron checked out in this series.
I think Bird gets underrated way too often, but he had some stacked teams.
James has more MVPs and has taken two teams (07, 14) to the finals with little to no help.
James> Bird
Wade is easily a top 15 player last year while Bosh is one of the top big men until this year's ECF. They also have the game's greatest shooter in Ray Allen in their back-to-back championships. Lebron has legitimate help ever since he joined Miami in 2010.
I'll give you 2007 but 2014? No freaking way. People forget how huge Allen, Bosh, Lewis and even Wade was in the East playoffs. Birdman too.
But I thought the East was trash and the Heat won it by default? Now performing against the trash East is somehow an accomplishment when it's time to inflate LeBron's supporting cast in order to put down LeBron?I'll give you 2007 but 2014? No freaking way. People forget how huge Allen, Bosh, Lewis and even Wade was in the East playoffs. Birdman too.
If anything, finally having to play a real contender exposed the supporting cast for what it was in 2014: old washed-up players and scrubs.... LeBron did everything he could, but the Spurs were so good and the rest of the Heat so bad this year that one player was not going to be able to cover up the rest of the team's flaws....
Yeah that's pretty much how I see it.
Take James off the Heat. After you get past Wade, Bosh and old Ray Allen, what's left on that roster? Do they even make the playoffs? I don't think so.
The 80s Celtics had plenty enough to get to the playoffs without Bird.
Now that the finals are over, we can talk legacy. Losing again in the finals definitely hurts Lebron's legacy. It's now pretty unlikely for him to surpass Jordan. He would have to win 5 more les. Doable, but unlikely. I think his days of chasing the GOAT is over.
Lebron can still salvage his legacy. If he wins 2-3 more championships, he can still challenge Duncan. If he wins 1-2 more (with finals MVP of course), he can challenge Kobe. Honestly if Lebron landed between Duncan and Kobe on the all time list, that is still a pretty damn good career.
Where´s the update?
PG: Magic
SG: Kobe
C: Wilt
PF: Rudy La Russa
SF: West
Magic
Kobe
MJ
Kareem
Wilt
I don't think it hurts it that much. Fact is, they were far overmatched by a superior team. That's not his fault, and at the very least, he played a good series and did what he could. The only one that really hurts his legacy was the loss to Dallas, because he didn't exactly have a stellar series, regardless of the fact that Dallas was a better team. At least in this series, he did what he could.
Being very overlooked, is how awful of a coach Spoelstra is, and the effect it had on this series. Especially when it comes to defensive adjustments, and his poor management of Wade.
The East is trash, but no way Miami goes past Indiana without huge games from Lewis and Birdman.
That said, trolling aside, I don't like it when people puts emphasis on Lebron's help when we all know the Spurs are simply just the better team.
I would like to say though, for the record, that Lebron shouldn't get blame for this series, he was excellent but its just not what we expect from an All Time Great at the height of his career. He's so great he can sleepwalk to a 28ppg on crazy efficiency but that only tells half of the story. Unfair as it may sound, casual fans expects any great players to come out swinging especially from one who is virtually unstoppable on offense.
Lebron's a great dude tho, as a Kobe stan, I have nothing but respect for him.
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