PATFO... Pay Diaw and Mills

[downunder]

But for Patty filing in when Parker was injured and doing so well Spurs would not have made it to finals. Tonight he spurred the Spurs on with timely 3s. Did you see the Heat coaches reaction ? Mills quick scoring put paid to any Heat comeback.

[TheGreatYacht]

PAY MILLS DAMN IT!!!!

CAN IT BE ANY CLEARER?!?!?!

He said in an interview with Jabari Young of Express News that he would be selfish not to look at other opportunities smh. RC PLEASE PAY THIS MAN

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursna...h-patty-mills/

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

PAY MILLS DAMN IT!!!!

CAN IT BE ANY CLEARER?!?!?!

He said in an interview with Jabari Young of Express News that he would be selfish not to look at other opportunities smh. RC PLEASE PAY THIS MAN

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursna...h-patty-mills/

Calm down, we will. He'll be back.

[ceperez]

Boris would be floundering around the league right now (probably undeservedly, as he got a raw deal in Charlotte) if it weren't for the Spurs. Hopefully he'll give a LITTLE bit of a hometown discount.

Boris is a unique player too but is not a true center like Splitter, which for whatever reason trade at a premium.

Boris collected a ton of money from Charlotte. Can't say he got a raw deal there.

But, given how little effort he made with Charlotte, not a lot of teams are going to pay him big money. Not a lot of teams will know how to use him. He likely stays with the Spurs with a Ginobli like salary. 4 years, 7m per.

Mills.... maybe 4-5m per. Unless a Spurs coached team gets him first (i.e. Hawks, Sixers, Warriors, ... )

[Mel_13]

yes.

Your choice as to whether we go forward with this or not. Patty's performance last night actually makes it even less likely that you could win, IMO. The bet just doesn't seem fair to me, as there's virtually no chance that you win.

Let me know. If you want out, that's fine with me and I won't bring up this thread ever again.

[Mel_13]

Damn, Patty just pushed his contract to 24/4...

That was an epic performance last night. I can see a scenario where the Spurs abandon any chance for significant cap space in 2015 and bring everyone back, including Patty on an MLE sized contract.

[Raven]

Your choice as to whether we go forward with this or not. Patty's performance last night actually makes it even less likely that you could win, IMO. The bet just doesn't seem fair to me, as there's virtually no chance that you win.

Let me know. If you want out, that's fine with me and I won't bring up this thread ever again.

why is that? yeah it's definetely a bold bet on my part, but you only live once right?

[Mel_13]

why is that? yeah it's definetely a bold bet on my part, but you only live once right?

I'm confused. Are you in or out?

As to my estimate based on last night. I think it is now more likely that the Spurs could be willing to pay Patty an annual salary in the neighborhood of the MLE. So that even if there were a team willing to use cap space and go above the MLE, Patty would be likely, IMO, to take less money and stay with the Spurs.

At any rate, once we get over the celebrations, Patty is still a 5'11" combo guard. The last little combo guard that contributed to a championship and got paid was JJ Berea in 2011. He got 4yrs/19M from Minnesota. I find it absolutely inconceivable that Patty gets any offers above the MLE (4/21).

I'd recommend that you agree to let the bet lapse, but it's your choice.

[Raven]

I'm confused. Are you in or out?

As to my estimate based on last night. I think it is now more likely that the Spurs could be willing to pay Patty an annual salary in the neighborhood of the MLE. So that even if there were a team willing to use cap space and go above the MLE, Patty would be likely, IMO, to take less money and stay with the Spurs.

At any rate, once we get over the celebrations, Patty is still a 5'11" combo guard. The last little combo guard that contributed to a championship and got paid was JJ Berea in 2011. He got 4yrs/19M from Minnesota. I find it absolutely inconceivable that Patty gets any offers above the MLE (4/21).

I'd recommend that you agree to let the bet lapse, but it's your choice.

i see your point. all right, let's leave this bet. It's still an interesting story though.

[Mel_13]

i see your point. all right, let's leave this bet. It's still an interesting story though.

I agree and, unlike some other debates on ST, this one will have a definitive resolution in matter of weeks.

[Brazil]

Parker will be arguing for Diaw to get more, not less money. Parker knew what Diaw could do and convinced the FO to give him a chance. He is super high on Diaw's play last summer and this season, and I think he will try to get the FO to get Diaw as much money as they can come up with.

what ?

How in Parker has a word about the amount of money Spurs should give to Boris ? Parker will, for sure, advocate for Spurs to retain Boris but at this point, FO and Pop don't need to be convinced of how valuable Diaw is for this team

[ceperez]

I'm confused. Are you in or out?

As to my estimate based on last night. I think it is now more likely that the Spurs could be willing to pay Patty an annual salary in the neighborhood of the MLE. So that even if there were a team willing to use cap space and go above the MLE, Patty would be likely, IMO, to take less money and stay with the Spurs.

At any rate, once we get over the celebrations, Patty is still a 5'11" combo guard. The last little combo guard that contributed to a championship and got paid was JJ Berea in 2011. He got 4yrs/19M from Minnesota. I find it absolutely inconceivable that Patty gets any offers above the MLE (4/21).

I'd recommend that you agree to let the bet lapse, but it's your choice.

Minnesota definitely over paid big time for Barea. However, that figure should indicate the ceiling of the deal that Mills would get.

[Mel_13]

Minnesota definitely over paid big time for Barea. However, that figure should indicate the ceiling of the deal that Mills would get.

That's exactly what I said.

[EVAY]

what ?

How in Parker has a word about the amount of money Spurs should give to Boris ? Parker will, for sure, advocate for Spurs to retain Boris but at this point, FO and Pop don't need to be convinced of how valuable Diaw is for this team

I'm not saying that what he is saying is determinative, but I do think that the players make their positions known and they lobby. For example, when TP's contract was up several years ago, lots of folks around here were saying that he should or shouldn't get X, Y, or Z amount. I don't remember the particulars (you probably know them much better than I) but Tim Duncan publicly said at one point that he hoped that the FO gave TP what he wanted and that he, Tim, would do it himself if he could (which was an easy thing to say since he wouldn't have been allowed to, even if he was serious).

I'm not saying that what Tim said was determinative of what TP got, but it was public support for TP. That is all I was saying that I expected Tony to be doing for Diaw.

I agree that the FO is currently high on Diaw, but there is always lots of compe ion for contract dollars.

You needn't get upset. All I was really saying was that TP was and is a strong proponent of Diaw, which he repeated in the post-game interviews last evening.

Chill, already.

[TJastal]

I advise not to make money bets on ST with all the welchers around..

[Brazil]

I'm not saying that what he is saying is determinative, but I do think that the players make their positions known and they lobby. For example, when TP's contract was up several years ago, lots of folks around here were saying that he should or shouldn't get X, Y, or Z amount. I don't remember the particulars (you probably know them much better than I) but Tim Duncan publicly said at one point that he hoped that the FO gave TP what he wanted and that he, Tim, would do it himself if he could (which was an easy thing to say since he wouldn't have been allowed to, even if he was serious).

I'm not saying that what Tim said was determinative of what TP got, but it was public support for TP. That is all I was saying that I expected Tony to be doing for Diaw.

I agree that the FO is currently high on Diaw, but there is always lots of compe ion for contract dollars.

You needn't get upset. All I was really saying was that TP was and is a strong proponent of Diaw, which he repeated in the post-game interviews last evening.

Chill, already.

I'm not upset the ? chill of what ? where did you see I was upset ?

I'm just replying to your post I found over the top saying I don't see Parker having an influence regarding amount of money Spurs should throw at Boris neither I think he will advice Boris to ask for the max he can.

When Duncan is saying gives whatever the guy wants, he is showing it is important for him Parker feels comfortable with contract offer. From that to "he will try to get the FO to get Diaw as much money as they can come up with" there is a world.

[EVAY]

When Duncan is saying gives whatever the guy wants, he is showing it is important for him Parker feels comfortable with contract offer. From that to "he will try to get the FO to get Diaw as much money as they can come up with" there is a world.

Whatever. I think it's just semantics at this point. I didn't think 'there was a world'.

nm.

[Brazil]

Whatever. I think it's just semantics at this point. I didn't think 'there was a world'.

nm.

it's all good evay

and really for getting me upset today it would take a lot

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Predictions:

Patty 22/4, rejects slightly higher offer to stay.
Boris 18/3

This assumes the cap increases $5mil to $63.7mil and we renounce Daye.

I'd also re-sign Bonner to the minimum if we can squeeze him in.

[tholdren]

Predictions:

Patty 22/4, rejects slightly higher offer to stay.
Boris 18/3

This assumes the cap increases $5mil to $63.7mil and we renounce Daye.

I'd also re-sign Bonner to the minimum if we can squeeze him in.

would rather have Daye than Boner I think. But Baynes over both for sure

[TheGreatYacht]

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/view...27406******=40

look at all the Knicks fans... They don't know if Patty will fit because the spurs have beautiful offense and the Knicks have "ISO idiot ball"

I actually think Patty would fit perfect on the triangle, tbh. Phil never had top tier PG's, just Point Guards that can hit the open shots.

#PayPatty RC Buford

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Who else is willing to make a prediction on these contracts?

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Bump

[itzsoweezee]

Predictions:

Patty 22/4, rejects slightly higher offer to stay.
Boris 18/3

This assumes the cap increases $5mil to $63.7mil and we renounce Daye.

I'd also re-sign Bonner to the minimum if we can squeeze him in.

Can the Spurs afford those contracts? If so, those amounts seem completely reasonable and I can't see Patty and Boris leaving.

[dg7md]

Diaw will come back for sure, it's Patty that I think bolts to a beta team because of an insane contract. Patty is great but he won't be able to be our starting point this year and I have no doubt some lesser East team will sign him up for a starting role. I just hope we can get something good out of this because he was essentially the true Finals MVP if you can consider the closeout game.

Ideally, we need to resign both and get another piece to hopefully go for a repeat, but I don't really know if all will be possible.

If we can only keep one of the two, we'd better keep Diaw — he's far more important to our system and is arguably why we beat OKC and Miami.