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    - Junta death threats after Arg - Hungary 2-1
    - match fixed between Arg - Fra.
    - Peruvian players entering Arg lockeroom pre-game when Arg needed to win by 4+ goals over Peru. Arg won 6-0

    too many to name. That world cup was one of the most corrupted world cups in history

    It WAS a fix: Peruvian senator reveals his country did throw key 1978 World Cup game against Argentina

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz34wQbfccT
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    So none? I figured.

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    So none? I figured.
    ARG-FRA: GOALS 45' 0-1 Daniel Passarella (penalty)

    the Swiz ref later admitted there was no penalty

    He also didn't calll a clear penalty on a French player

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    ARG-FRA: GOALS 45' 0-1 Daniel Passarella (penalty)

    the Swiz ref later admitted there was no penalty

    He also didn't calll a clear penalty on a French player
    Link?

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  5. #555
    Ur a fkn wanker Venti Quattro's Avatar
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    Another one of those amateur conspiracy sites. Where did you find this hater? In the Earth's bedrock?

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    Another one of those amateur conspiracy sites. Where did you find this hater? In the Earth's bedrock?
    no need to shoot the messenger bro

    just do a search on argentina 1978 fix and you'll see plenty other do entation. As I said even Peruvian politicians came out on the fix.

    Even argentine ex-players discussed their embarrassment and dissapointment. anyway obviously brazil world cup does no even come close to the kind of corruption back then but it's still pretty blatant IMO

    let's move on ...

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    Your tears are delicious.

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    Argentine players were so high on amphetamines that “you could hear them screaming in their dressing room
    This isn't serious, tbh.

    Every ing team here screams before games.

    And lol at that not being a penalty.


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    Your tears are delicious.
    that final in 1978. God damn they played like men back then . No shinpads either.

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    The Sunday Times broke this story on the eve of England’s clash with Argentina in 1986, claiming that Argentina had shipped 35,000 tons of free grain to Peru, along with free arms and unfroze $50m in credits that the Argentine national bank was holding. With Peruvian generals short of money and happy to help a fellow junta, they were happy to assist.
    The final itself was no less controversial. Holland had made it to their second consecutive final, this time without their key player Johan Cruyff. At the time he claimed he was missing the tournament as a protest against the junta in Argentina, but recently gave an interview saying that the real reason was a bungled kidnap attempt in Barcelona the year before that kept him from the tournament.

    The final itself was no less controversial. Holland had made it to their second consecutive final, this time without their key player Johan Cruyff. At the time he claimed he was missing the tournament as a protest against the junta in Argentina, but recently gave an interview saying that the real reason was a bungled kidnap attempt in Barcelona the year before that kept him from the tournament.

    The Argentine authorities played games with the Dutch from the offset, driving their team coach the wrong way to the stadium, stopping in a small village where tens of fans banged on the bus windows shouting ‘Argentina, Argentina, Argentina!’ for over 20 minutes. They also bullied FIFA into changing the referee, as the respected offical Abraham Klein was vetoed by Argentina and Italian Serio Gonella was put in charge, giving a woeful, one-sided performance in favour of the home team.



    Argentina

    http://www.onthisfootballday.com/foo...gentina-78.php

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    The centre forward Leopoldo Luque has stated that he was given a ‘speaking to’ by one of the regime’s military men about the importance of making it through to the second round. ‘This group could easily be the group of death, as far as you are concerned,’ he was told. Luque took the threat seriously. Earlier that day one of his best friend’s brothers had disappeared and was later found at the bottom of the River Plate with concrete strapped to his legs.

    On the final day of round two Brazil beat Poland 3-1. There is more controversy here as Argentina didn’t play their final game until the evening and had the advantage of knowing by what margin they had to win. They knew they had to beat Peru by four goals to get to the final. At halftime it was 2-0 but in the second half Peru totally collapsed and Argentina won with ease by six goals to nil.

    Many believe the game was fixed. Peruvian player Jose Velasquez claims the team and the management were pressured to lose by the Peruvian government. Despite being a pivotal player in the Peru team, Velasquez was subs uted ten minutes into the second half. The Peruvian captain Hector Chumpitaz and other players tell of an even more unbelievable incident. Moments before the game General Videla went waltzing into the Peruvian dressing room with none other than Henry Kissinger on his arm. The two buddies explained how much anticipation of victory there was amongst the Argentine public and the Peruvian team was left feeling shocked. Kissinger doesn’t deny this but says he has ‘no recollection of ever being in that dressing room.’

    But former midfielder Ricky Villa accepts that ‘there is no doubt we were used politically,’ and Leopoldo Luque has stated that ‘with what I know now, I can’t say I’m proud of my victory. But I didn’t realise; most of us didn’t. We just played football.’



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    Still waiting for those bad calls hater

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    You're mixing a load of stuff, most of which you're clueless about and throwing it all together. Nice trolling attempt, but your game is weak, need to get your together.

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    Their second game was against highly fancied France, who had lost to Italy in their first game. A French player claims that when Argentine Daniel Passarella bundled over Didier Six in the box, the referee pleaded with him: “Don’t do that again please, or I might have to actually give it next time.”




    It was also claimed some Argentines were so high on amphetamines they had to run for hours after games to get back to normal. Random drug tests were no use – the team’s waterboy Okambo supposedly supplied the urine samples, with the help of his wife. Officials were stunned when one test found that an Argentine player was pregnant.

    Read more at http://www.sport-magazine.co.uk/350/...5VmopiVKxYI.99

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    moral victory, tbh. Franklin's Avatar
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    Brazil is overrated imho and the best result they can expect is semi-final exist, despite playing the games at home. The 4th Reich is gonna win the championship this year imho

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    Didnt Argentina request to change groups in 1978 ?

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    This isn't serious, tbh.

    Every ing team here screams before games.

    And lol at that not being a penalty.

    damn, I remember watching that world cup on a 13" black and white TV (color TV wouldn't be available in Argentina for a few more years). I was 4, had measles and had to stay at home in bed and remember watching some of the games.

    There has always been talks about the Peru game, tbh... the military junta was certainly nothing you wanted to around with.

    lol Havelange didn't give a . He was as corrupt if not more than Blatter. Always counting the bills.

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    damn, I remember watching that world cup on a 13" black and white TV (color TV wouldn't be available in Argentina for a few more years). I was 4, had measles and had to stay at home in bed and remember watching some of the games.

    There has always been talks about the Peru game, tbh... the military junta was certainly nothing you wanted to around with.

    lol Havelange didn't give a . He was as corrupt if not more than Blatter. Always counting the bills.
    Yeah, I know about the Peru game rumours (although we had already beaten them in their place like 8-0 or something like that previous to the WC). I don't know if they are true or not what I know is that in that WC there weren't blatant bad calls in favour of Argentina which is what hater's main point was, when I called him out he started with the dictatorship thing.

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    The s because the putos are just armed with knives and handguns. You can't win against a suicide vest.
    Makes sense

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    Didnt Argentina request to change groups in 1978 ?
    Dont dodge the question, Tango otas

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    Told ya that Ochoa was Mexico's best keeper... and it isn't even close...

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    Dont dodge the question, Tango otas
    Never heard of that.

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    Never heard of that.
    then nevermind

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    The centre forward Leopoldo Luque has stated that he was given a ‘speaking to’ by one of the regime’s military men about the importance of making it through to the second round. ‘This group could easily be the group of death, as far as you are concerned,’ he was told. Luque took the threat seriously. Earlier that day one of his best friend’s brothers had disappeared and was later found at the bottom of the River Plate with concrete strapped to his legs.

    On the final day of round two Brazil beat Poland 3-1. There is more controversy here as Argentina didn’t play their final game until the evening and had the advantage of knowing by what margin they had to win. They knew they had to beat Peru by four goals to get to the final. At halftime it was 2-0 but in the second half Peru totally collapsed and Argentina won with ease by six goals to nil.

    Many believe the game was fixed. Peruvian player Jose Velasquez claims the team and the management were pressured to lose by the Peruvian government. Despite being a pivotal player in the Peru team, Velasquez was subs uted ten minutes into the second half. The Peruvian captain Hector Chumpitaz and other players tell of an even more unbelievable incident. Moments before the game General Videla went waltzing into the Peruvian dressing room with none other than Henry Kissinger on his arm. The two buddies explained how much anticipation of victory there was amongst the Argentine public and the Peruvian team was left feeling shocked. Kissinger doesn’t deny this but says he has ‘no recollection of ever being in that dressing room.’

    But former midfielder Ricky Villa accepts that ‘there is no doubt we were used politically,’ and Leopoldo Luque has stated that ‘with what I know now, I can’t say I’m proud of my victory. But I didn’t realise; most of us didn’t. We just played football.’


    Argentina’s 1978 World Cup win against Peru was fixed in a brutal political deal, former senator says

    By Martin Rogers, Yahoo! Sports Feb 11, 12:28 am EST


    One of the World Cup’s oldest mysteries finally may be solved after claims were made this week of a sinister plot involving mass corruption, government interference and torture.

    Argentina’s 1978 triumph against Peru long has been suspected of involving dirty tricks by the Argentinean political dictatorship led by Jorge Videla that held power at that time. For more than 30 years questions have been asked about the controversial 6-0 win that clinched Argentina’s place in the final, where they beat the Netherlands 3-1.

    This week former Peruvian senator Genaro Ledesma said a deal was struck between Peru’s then-president Francisco Bermudez and Videla, whereby Argentina would be allowed to win the game by at least the four-goal margin it needed to avoid elimination.

    In return, Videla’s regime agreed to receive and imprison 13 Peruvian political dissidents who were vocally opposed to Bermudez and his methods. “Videla needed to win the World Cup to cleanse Argentina’s bad image around the world,” Ledesma, 80, told a Buenos Aires court. “So he only accepted the group if Peru allowed the Argentina national team to triumph.”

    After Argentina won with ridiculous ease, su ions immediately were raised. Conspiracy theories ranged from the Peru goalkeeper having been bribed to suggestions that a large shipment of grain had been sent between the two countries as payment for a fixed result.

    Ledesma’s accusations raise the possibility of a far more nefarious reality: It is alleged that the 13 dissidents were beaten and tortured by their captors. Even 34 years later, investigators still are trying to get to the bottom of the Condor Plan, an agreement between 1970s South American dictators whereby political opponents could be repressed by sending them to cooperating nations.

    “With what I know now, I can’t say I am proud of my victory,” said Leopoldo Luque, an Argentinean striker in 1978. “But I didn’t realize, most of us didn’t. We just played football.”

    Fixing an outcome in such a manner would be virtually impossible in a modern World Cup because of changes in the format and scheduling of the compe ion. In 1978, the final eight teams played off in two groups of four, with the group winners contesting the final.

    With Brazil having played its final group match earlier in the day, Argentina knew exactly what it required – a four-goal victory or better – to progress. Today the World Cup is played on a knockout basis from the round of 16 onward, and the last round of matches in any group in the preliminary phase are played simultaneously.

    Argentina would go on to win the World Cup again in 1986, but its first success, and what should be remembered as one of the greatest moments in its sporting history continues to be marred by scandal.

    Judge Noberto Oyarbide is leading an ongoing investigation mandated to get to the bottom of the Peru “fix” saga, yet even disregarding the controversial game, that period of Argentine history is far from pleasant reading.

    Less than a mile away from the River Plate Stadium where the 6-0 “victory” was recorded stood the infamous Naval Mechanics School, where members of Videla’s military junta tortured and are believed to have killed more than 5,000 political opponents.

    Such was the spate of politically motivated arrests that those who went missing, never to be seen again, were referred to simply as “the disappeared.”


    Videla used the World Cup as a public podium and insisted that reports of his regime’s brutality were nothing more than an “anti-Argentine plot.” He even welcomed American politician Henry Kissinger to the tournament and received standing ovations at every match even while behind closed doors his cohorts practiced brutality on those who dared speak up.

    “Millions suc bed to the official viewpoint that the sporting victory was the triumph of a people at peace,” wrote author and historian Pablo Llonto in his book, “The Shame of All.”

    Over time, many of the Argentina players have spoken out about how Videla’s influence tarnished what for most was their finest achievement in soccer. “There is no doubt we were used politically,” midfielder Ricky Villa said.

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