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    People focusing too much on one side of the ball. Pau destroys the defence of any team he plays for at this stage.
    He looks worst than he actually is on a horrible team with horrible defensive schemes and giving minimal effort. He would be OK on the Spurs.

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    If I had to pick another Big, I would want one that is a mad rebounder and shot blocker. Any offense from that person would be a plus but not a necessity. I want Serge Ibaka.

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    If I had to pick another Big, I would want one that is a mad rebounder and shot blocker. Any offense from that person would be a plus but not a necessity. I want Serge Ibaka.
    9.7 and 1.5 on 31 minutes doesn't look too bad to me, tbh.

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    He looks worst than he actually is on a horrible team with horrible defensive schemes and giving minimal effort. He would be OK on the Spurs.
    Let's not forget he was playing for Mike "there's no D in" d'Antoni.

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    I would love to have Gasol although I don't see how he would fit on the team. On the bench with a Gasol/Diaw frontline? I don't know if he'd get a lot of playing time as we already have Tim/Tiago/Boris and play small a lot. He does have a good jumper and can spot up on the baseline. Anyway if he's willing to take a paycut and sacrifice a bigger role for another championship, I would sign him. Also, we can add Spain to the Foreign Legion.

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    I don't believe Pau could sign just for the MLE. He will come here if spurs have minimum cap space and could offer him somthing in the 8-10M/y range.
    So it means that he will comme only if Duncan stop, or if spurs don't sign Diaw and Mills.

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    Now that I'm reading some of this, I actually don't dislike Gasol if he takes a smaller role. The mediocrity of the Lakers + Dantoni could explain why his defense looked like garbage, though I still do think he's pretty slow. I highly doubt the Spurs get him though.

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    How is Gasol's relationship with Kobe? I remember it being a bit rocky at one point. I'd imagine Kobe would hate Gasol leaving even more if it was to help Duncan get one more ring than him.

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    If the spurs want to keep diaw + mills, they have no cap space and nothing more than the MLE to propose.

    BUT, if some players agree to make it possible, there could be a way to maximise cap space.
    - duncan have to opt out and sign a new deal 5+5, with a promess that he will be cut next year by using the stretch provision. He will have is money, and it will cost only $1,7M in salary cap in 2015/2016
    - diaw have to accept a 5M/y salary (he probably worth 6/6,5M, but a 3 years contract instead of 2 years may seal the deal)
    - Mills have to accept the room exception (5M/2y) he probably can have more somewhere else, but i don't see a team give him more than à Gary Neal contract, and he probably would love to stay here.

    If the 3 player are ok, then the scenario is this :
    - Duncan opt out and renegociate his contract to $10M/2yrs, Boris sign a 3 years $16M contract starting at $5M next years, and Baynes take the Qualifying offer.
    - Spurs renonce they're right to Mills, Bonner and Daye.
    - Find a 1st round pick who accept to be stash one year (or trade our first for a 2015 pick, or for a high second roud pick)

    At this point, salary cap is :
    Parker 12.5M
    Splitter 9.3M
    Manu 7.5M
    Duncan 5M
    Diaw 5M
    Green 4M
    KL 2.9M
    Belinelli 2.9M
    Joseph 2M
    Ayers 1.8M
    Baynes 1.1M

    Total : $54.0M
    with an estimate cap space at $63.2M, it give them $9.2M to propose to Gasol (and a little more if Lakers agree to a Sign&Trade).

    As soon as Gasol is signed, Spurs can propose room exception to Mills ($5M / 2 yrs), bring back Bonner for the vet. min., and maybe bring back Daye for the min.

    If Mills want more money, then spurs have still their room exception to find a decent PG to share the backup PG spot with Joseph.

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    How is Gasol's relationship with Kobe? I remember it being a bit rocky at one point. I'd imagine Kobe would hate Gasol leaving even more if it was to help Duncan get one more ring than him.
    There was a story about Gasol's cheerleader gf dumping him because of some stuff Kobe's wife told her about Gasol cheating on her. It was of course denied in the media, and served mostly to explain why Pau had such a listless performance in the playoffs a few years ago. Of course only those involved know the truth.

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    Gasol is still an awesome player and will help his new team, hopefully it'll be Chicago and not OKC, but he'd be a really poor fit in SA.

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    THe only way Gasol is in the team is if by any chance Diaw leaves the Spurs on a lucrative contract elsewhere. Chances for that are remote.

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    If the spurs want to keep diaw + mills, they have no cap space and nothing more than the MLE to propose.

    BUT, if some players agree to make it possible, there could be a way to maximise cap space.
    - duncan have to opt out and sign a new deal 5+5, with a promess that he will be cut next year by using the stretch provision. He will have is money, and it will cost only $1,7M in salary cap in 2015/2016
    - diaw have to accept a 5M/y salary (he probably worth 6/6,5M, but a 3 years contract instead of 2 years may seal the deal)
    - Mills have to accept the room exception (5M/2y) he probably can have more somewhere else, but i don't see a team give him more than à Gary Neal contract, and he probably would love to stay here.

    If the 3 player are ok, then the scenario is this :
    - Duncan opt out and renegociate his contract to $10M/2yrs, Boris sign a 3 years $16M contract starting at $5M next years, and Baynes take the Qualifying offer.
    - Spurs renonce they're right to Mills, Bonner and Daye.
    - Find a 1st round pick who accept to be stash one year (or trade our first for a 2015 pick, or for a high second roud pick)

    At this point, salary cap is :
    Parker 12.5M
    Splitter 9.3M
    Manu 7.5M
    Duncan 5M
    Diaw 5M
    Green 4M
    KL 2.9M
    Belinelli 2.9M
    Joseph 2M
    Ayers 1.8M
    Baynes 1.1M

    Total : $54.0M
    with an estimate cap space at $63.2M, it give them $9.2M to propose to Gasol (and a little more if Lakers agree to a Sign&Trade).

    As soon as Gasol is signed, Spurs can propose room exception to Mills ($5M / 2 yrs), bring back Bonner for the vet. min., and maybe bring back Daye for the min.

    If Mills want more money, then spurs have still their room exception to find a decent PG to share the backup PG spot with Joseph.
    There's no reason to keep Baynes under those cir stances, and finding a way to dump Ayres or Joseph would be a possibility as well.

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    With Duncan and Splitter there is no much need for Gasol, why you offer him as a target? The target we should look for should be at the wing positions...

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    With Duncan and Splitter there is no much need for Gasol, why you offer him as a target? The target we should look for should be at the wing positions...
    Truthbomb...

    If you wanna sign Gasol then you trade Splitter, these 3 wouldn't make for good pairings... But then again Gasol doesn't really want to be a backup so he's off the table imo...
    Last edited by Baam; 06-18-2014 at 08:33 AM.

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    Truthbomb...

    If you wanna sign Gasol then you trade Splitter, these 3 can't wouldn't make for good pairings... But then again Gasol doesn't really want to be a backup so he's off the table imo...
    I would start Gasol and Timmy. Splitter and Diaw will come off the bench.

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    I would start Gasol and Timmy. Splitter and Diaw will come off the bench.
    The Spurs would have lost in the first round with this lineup, tbh.

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    I think Gasol will help the Spurs keep Diaw. I imagine most GMs value Gasol more and try to sign him first. Removing a compe or for Diaw. I think Gasol would have been a great option if Duncan retires. I think he is coming back for one more year. I imagine Gasol wouldn't have us too high on the list anyway.

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    I'm not sure that Duncan would be okay with Gasol making more than him. Gasol would have to be willing to come off the bench too.

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    Gasol would be a perfect fit here for a plethora of reasons: He can have a great chance at a ring at the twilight of his career, and the international connection of our team.

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    Any worse than Duncan and Splitter together? I'm not getting how Gasol is essentially being argued as a downgrade to Splitter.

    Gasol gives you a "real" big that can pass and hit a midrange jumper consistently. We don't have that right now. I think it's important against teams like OKC
    Splitter is one of the best passing big man in the league. Jumpshot, non existence.

    Splitter D, Gasol D. I will take Splitter any day of the week.

    Spurs have Diaw as there Gasol now. He had a lot of great post ups this playoff run.

    Spurs don't need Gasol. He is basically the same player as Duncan w/ a better J but worse defense.

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    Folks saying no to adding Gasol are crazy. It wouldn't only make us better for next season (not that much better though since it can't get much better) but it would also allow us to extend our contender status beyond Duncan's retirement. A core of Parker, Green, Kawhi, Pau and Splitter with Pop's system would be a great team for the next 5 years.
    After careful thought, I'd welcome Gasol at a reasonable price. But for the future? He is only 4-years younger than Tim, and based on their respective body conditions, I'm not even sure who retires first --- of course, it also depends on Tim's desire to continue playing.

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    I think the Spurs will sign him for a multi-year MLE contract.

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    I prefer the other Gasol

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    With the Heat potentially adding Melo / Kyle Lowry this offseason, their star power will only continue to become more pronounced this offseason. It's imperative that we match that by signing Gasol.

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