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Did disturbed American teenagers opened fire in schools after the U.S beat Ghana ?
Friend Zone is used for people who give up
Even if we become just freinds, I'm still gonna destroy that vagina whenever I want
I dont want to lead the BF to depression, he seems to be a sensitive got
Friend Zone is used for people who give up
Even if we become just freinds, I'm still gonna destroy that vagina whenever I want
I dont want to lead the BF to depression, he seems to be a sensitive got
son, your takes are beyond .
@miracle:
Italy had this team::
Gianluigi BuffonFabio Grosso, Fabio Cannavaro , Gianluca Zambrotta, Marco Materazzi
Gennaro Gattuso, Francesco Totti, Mauro Camoranesi, Simone Perrotta, Andrea Pirlo
Luca Toni
Coach: Marcello Lippi
That's one of the most stacked team ever imo, with tons of world class players and an enormous coach and they had the best defense of the tournament. They were the only team that was capable of knocking out Germany in their own house.
GerMany: a VERY weak penaldo and playing with one more man for 60 minutes against a putrid portugal isn't gonna cut it. Sure Deutschland has a nice team (half german btw, living there on and off so rooting for the Manschaft but not in an obssessive compulsive german style) but we lack creativity and we have a bit of an injury bug. Netherlands and italy looked better. Spain also looked very dangerous for that first half. By no means did we prove anything to be called clearly the best team.
Germany is far and far better then the netherlands the 5-1 is nice and all but doesn't say about how weak this team is compared with 4 years ago.
the 06' Italy was just as overrated as 06' Miami imho. Yes, they had a squad that looked very nice on paper but you can't argue that the team had extremely good luck all the way to their championship. For example, they received a penalty kick in the additional time of the 1/8 game vs. Australia when they were playing with only 10 men on the pitch (because someone got the red in the 1st half). They were pretty much exhausted by then and playing an extra 30min against 11 Australian thugs would be a nightmare to them, but thank god Grosso swindled a penalty which won them the game in regular time.
Same happened in the finals vs. France imho. France were dominating the in over time, until Zidane knocked down Materazzi with his bald head and got ejected, which turned around the momentum as well as the eventual outcome of the game. The likes of Materazzi and Grosso performed ephemerally good on the world cup that year (like JJB and Lincoln in 2011) but the majority of time, before and after the WC, they were just role players. Nesta suffered a serious injury and was out for the tournament before group stage was done, so Lippi had to give the spot to Materazzi despite him being well known as a time bomb at the defensive line, and Materazzi was his best choice at the moment because the only players capable of playing CB he had besides Materazzi and Cannavaro were Bargzali and Zacardo, both of whom sucked major asses.
In terms of talent level I think the 06' England was just as good as Italy, if not better, yet they failed to even qualify for the semi-finals.
And I believe the 4th Reich should be the last one of the 32 national teams this year (barring Spain maybe) to worry about the "lack of creativity" tbh, when you have Ozil, Kroos, Gotze etc... who are all creative as . Yes, the injury to Reus is definitely bad news for your team but happens to every team, and you have more than enough depth on the left wing imho. Spain is the only team whose talent level might match Deutschland, but their playing style is outdated and least favored on this tournament (as you've seen in the 1-5 game). I was rooting for Espana back in 2010 and they won the championship (which was the first in their history), and now I'm rooting for the 4th Reich.
This German team is stacked but they are a bunch of mental midgets; Oranje can beat them
Tiki-taka has been figured out bu superior sides
i mean about how weak NL is compared with 4 years ago.
We basicly rely on 2.5 players
Robben is in the best shape hes ever been
van Persie is close to that
Sneijder was 3/4 weeks before this a fat mental midget who had to get in shape which he did by training with some dutch K1 fighters
rest are ok players but not like where the dutch were famous for. Normally we had 80% playing with all the top teams through europe now its 80% from our own leaque.
We can beat any team any day but we are no where close to being a le favorite
I personally dislike italian football as they are crooked thiefs when they aren't fouling the out of you, so my post will have a negative bias.
all champions need a bit of luck. That being said you make it sound like the game was close when it wasn't. Besides a tim cahill decent (not great) header Italy dominated australia with 11 men and then with 10 men, look at the occasions of that match. They defended excellently and missed a load (!!!). Also that materazzi red was really easy, much like the pepe red from this week. Typical WC refs wishing to make a point and ruining the game. So your argument with the aussies is pretty bogus tbh.
Materazzi was a capable defender. A headcase and a got, but a capable defender. Cannavaro should have won man of the tournament, his play was absolutely stellar. Agree on france pushing italy really hard but that was a tremendous side with one of the GOAT players. Also the occasions were there for both sides, remember toni's header hitting the post? That match was neck and neck tbh. Also materazzi and grosso were used properly by a great coach (lippi). Materazzi has had a really nice career with inter and grosso has been constantly injured since 2008. 2005-2008 he was class. It was not about luck, as national teams such as italy provide tons of good defenders and a competent coach knows who to select. So you can't say they performed ephemerally good. They didn't up too much and the game plan permitted grosso to make great runs as totti/pirlo/camoranesi commanded alot of defensive attention in the central midfield area. Zambrotta had the same type of runs btw so it wasn't some fluke with grosso, just a great coach doing work by using a team properly.
Now this sentece begs a comment.
if you consider talent as single players in a vacuum not interacting with each other, I agree. But english players have ZERO of the creativity/impredictability and colectiveness of that italy side. I won't even mention mental strength. Also, english players are great only when supported by foreigners. As a TEAM, england could never set the pace of a match, they never had the technicality to control midfield against great teams. This problem comes from underpar coaching and an underpar federation neglecting the development of creativity and tactical versatility in favor of the "big strong kids" and individual play. It's a system that gets paul scholes to play long balls to emile heskey ffs. It's atrocious and it's the main reason england doesn't mean on the world stage. Furthermore, it's a deceiving system as it will beat smaller teams by pure talent so you'll always see the "they were close" comments. They aren't close to be fair.
England were massively overrated by guys like you who look at a team as individual players not as SINGLE WELL OILED machine. The italian team was hands down superior because they adapted to multiple styles of play and their players understood that the team comes first, while all of them being better then the english from a creativity,tactical, technical and most of all mental standpoint. The world cup and euro results since 2000s prove this point well enough, and this was with a "golden" england generation btw.
Btw, if it weren't for that group in 2006:
paraguay horrible match decided by OG in min 3,
sweden their only decent game at the WC,
trinidad tobago with the only goals coming in '83 and '90
they would've probably not even qualified for knock out. One of the GOAT overrated sides in history.
Ozil/kroos/goetze are all great but don't have the ability to control match tempo and are a bit prone for 1v1 (ozil the least) They are creative at an individual level, i'll give you that, but the team overall is NOT. . The german team tactics is predictable and unimaginative compared to other good sides. Look at the goals vs portugal: penaldo, 2 (huge) defensive mistakes and the typical german header. Very efficient but not cursive or impressive. It was typical german football: crisp, direct and predictable. And almost zero deep midfield creation, which is critical. Mechanised football as some of the more knowledgeable fans would tell you. That being said I hope we go far
I wouldn't say that the world champs and b2b euro champs play an obsolete style of football after one catastrophic half (the other half they were clearly better than the dutch). Their key players are older tho so this leaves much less space for mistakes as their effort isn't the same.
Sooo .. are you trolling? Because if you are being serious it means you really don't understand some fundamental parts of the game and look at it as just a bunch of players .. which is really FAR from reality.
I'd say tiki taka sides (barca, spain) are getting older/unmotivated, everybody figured out tiki taka really fast, obviously with high pressing being key from a defensive and offensive pov. Defensively because you want to deny the tiki taka side the passing carousel rape and offensively because any tiki taka side presses like nuts to get the ball back.
With an older tiki taka side they can't press so much and stamina becomes an issue with a streched back.
a bit unfair. You were weak because of coaching not players.
also you rely on a system not just 2-3 players.
bolded : true.
They own the Falkland Islands, don't they
individually they are. They just suck at playing as a team due to their football culture, idiotic federation, antiquated tactics and a chronic underdevelopment of technique in children. All well do ented problems. Even right now with more technical players such as sterling and barkley (or whatever it's spelled) they play individualistic me first football that is usually prayed upon by big teams. That's why they always go 1/8s and quarters. Every time they get a real team they get relegated to parking the bus and getting throughly outplayed.
Really, the knicks of football. One and DONE.
Being a mavs fan who rooted for Spurs throughout their championship run since the 2nd round, I think it's evident enough I am a supporter of team game rather than otherwise. I agree that Italy had the talents and they were one of the two teams that year (the other being England) whom I saw being potential champions. I had worried the Juventus scandal would affect their morale, but thankfully it didn't and it turned out to work the other way around. The scandal gave them a strong incentive, they needed the championship to quell the criticism back home and they did it, otherwise Juventus would've been dropped straightly to C2 league I'm afraid. But we have to agree that Italy were incredibly lucky that year (just like the cHeat that same year).I personally dislike italian football as they are crooked thiefs when they aren't fouling the out of you, so my post will have a negative bias.
all champions need a bit of luck. That being said you make it sound like the game was close when it wasn't. Besides a tim cahill decent (not great) header Italy dominated australia with 11 men and then with 10 men, look at the occasions of that match. They defended excellently and missed a load (!!!). Also that materazzi red was really easy, much like the pepe red from this week. Typical WC refs wishing to make a point and ruining the game. So your argument with the aussies is pretty bogus tbh.
Materazzi was a capable defender. A headcase and a got, but a capable defender. Cannavaro should have won man of the tournament, his play was absolutely stellar. Agree on france pushing italy really hard but that was a tremendous side with one of the GOAT players. Also the occasions were there for both sides, remember toni's header hitting the post? That match was neck and neck tbh. Also materazzi and grosso were used properly by a great coach (lippi). Materazzi has had a really nice career with inter and grosso has been constantly injured since 2008. 2005-2008 he was class. It was not about luck, as national teams such as italy provide tons of good defenders and a competent coach knows who to select. So you can't say they performed ephemerally good. They didn't up too much and the game plan permitted grosso to make great runs as totti/pirlo/camoranesi commanded alot of defensive attention in the central midfield area. Zambrotta had the same type of runs btw so it wasn't some fluke with grosso, just a great coach doing work by using a team properly.
Now this sentece begs a comment.
if you consider talent as single players in a vacuum not interacting with each other, I agree. But english players have ZERO of the creativity/impredictability and colectiveness of that italy side. I won't even mention mental strength. Also, english players are great only when supported by foreigners. As a TEAM, england could never set the pace of a match, they never had the technicality to control midfield against great teams. This problem comes from underpar coaching and an underpar federation neglecting the development of creativity and tactical versatility in favor of the "big strong kids" and individual play. It's a system that gets paul scholes to play long balls to emile heskey ffs. It's atrocious and it's the main reason england doesn't mean on the world stage. Furthermore, it's a deceiving system as it will beat smaller teams by pure talent so you'll always see the "they were close
England were massively overrated by guys like you who look at a team as individual players not as SINGLE WELL OILED machine. The italian team was hands down superior because they adapted to multiple styles of play and their players understood that the team comes first, while all of them being better then the english from a creativity,tactical, technical and most of all mental standpoint. The world cup and euro results since 2000s prove this point well enough, and this was with a "golden" england generation btw.
Btw, if it weren't for that group in 2006:
paraguay horrible match decided by OG in min 3,
sweden their only decent game at the WC,
trinidad tobago with the only goals coming in '83 and '90
they would've probably not even qualified for knock out. One of the GOAT overrated sides in history.
Ozil/kroos/goetze are all great but don't have the ability to control match tempo and are a bit prone for 1v1 (ozil the least) They are creative at an individual level, i'll give you that, but the team overall is NOT. . The german team tactics is predictable and unimaginative compared to other good sides. Look at the goals vs portugal: penaldo, 2 (huge) defensive mistakes and the typical german header. Very efficient but not cursive or impressive. It was typical german football: crisp, direct and predictable. And almost zero deep midfield creation, which is critical. Mechanised football as some of the more knowledgeable fans would tell you. That being said I hope we go far
I wouldn't say that the world champs and b2b euro champs play an obsolete style of football after one catastrophic half (the other half they were clearly better than the dutch). Their key players are older tho so this leaves much less space for mistakes as their effort isn't the same.
Sooo .. are you trolling? Because if you are being serious it means you really don't understand some fundamental parts of the game and look at it as just a bunch of players .. which is really FAR from reality.
Speaking of England, I don't think it's the lack of creativity in the midfield that always holds them back, quite the contrary is the lack of defense imho. Who was the last competent defensive midfielder they had? Hargreaves or Scott Parker? Hargreaves wasn't even born in UK tbh, and Parker even at his prime was one or two levels below the world's elite defensive mids like Vieira and Gattuso. Take a look at their starting lineup against Italy this tournament, they started Gerrard and Henderson in the midfield and neither of them could win the ball back from the likes of De Rossi, Pirlo, Verrati and Marchisio.
I can't agree more that it's always a "well oiled machine" (like the 14' Spurs) rather than a team of monkeyballers that ends up winning it all, and I believe the 4th Reich is the closest of all 32 candidates to that type. The concept of German football is just like that of Blitzkereig, defeating the opponent the most direct way. It might be predictable but you just could't stop it tbh. Plus, the 4th Reich has made at least the semi-finals four times in a row since 02 and it's time for them to make one step further, with their pivots reaching their primes (Lahm, Schweinsteiger, Ozil etc...)
Even worse, they get to train in Argentinian soil, and yet they keep sucking. TBH should conquer pieces of Brazil, Italy and Germany. Maybe then they'll kick their penaldos right.
what did england do for you to consider them contenders????They got out of the test of groups playing long ball to peter crouch. The same long ball from 1966, 1970, 1974, 1978, 1982, 1986 , 1990, 1994, 1998, 2002, 2010, 2014, 2018, 2022, 2222, 32434, end_of_the_world and end_of_the_world+4. It doesn't matter what talent you have when you play with the wrong primitive tactics. Spain right now is the best example(del bosque costa targetman
). England have not been a contender since 1966.
Italy were not incredibly lucky as I already explained : they dominated australia, destroyed ukraine, then clearly beat germany on our home ground and then went toe to toe with france while coming from behind. That's not luck, that's a great team at work. The Juventus scandal was a big thing but already the entire Juve team knew they were leaving so nobody was stressed. It was actually great for italy because they had almost zero press pressure (which is otherwise commonly huge). Only del pierro stayed as he had nothing more to prove. That was more media than reality. You are spilling out nonesense on this topic, just drop it.
england also always lacked technical defenders. They also lacked a deep playing midfielder and when by luck they got one (scholes) they used him to feed emile ing heskey on long balls. They always lack the ability to control the pace of a game. They lack the ability to even pace themselves. They plain selfish ball. Their last real striker is alan shearer. England has been a mess for a long long long time. It's not a player and no player no matter how great can change it. It's the entire system that is wrong. It leads to wrong tactics, wrong player development at ages 10/14/18/21, wrong priorities for both long term and short term. A mess. You put messi and penaldo on their squad and they still don't make the finals if they stick to their brand of football. That's how bad it is.
I agree germany has a good team. The concept of german football is to outlast the other team, the an hesis of blitzkrieg which is to defeat in the fastest way possible(and not necessarily direct). Schweinsteiger isn't in prime condition and is overrated tbh. Lahm isn't that valuable. Ozil is one of the key, agree on that, but the geman system will also be its downfall. You beat unorganized teams like portugal with it but a team like italy is gonna give us not because of our defens but because of our predictable offense (2006 vs italy, 2002 vs brazil, 2010 vs spain, all have the same story).
Not many german fans expect a world cup and this should tell you something about a generally football-optimistic country.
maybe they should just stick to cricket where they can play against countries of great athleticism like india and bangladesh.
If I remember correct, Zambrotta and Cannavaro were the only Italian players on that Juventus team who left the team that summer, while the likes of Buffon, Piero and Camoranesi all chose to stay, even some foreign players like Trezeguet and Nedved didn't leave either tbh. But I get your point, Italy didn't have nothing to lose so they could be fighting with less mental pressure. They were clear favorites and deserved winners against the likes of Australia and Ukraine, of course, but the game vs. the Reich was evenly matched imho, and that goal scored by Grosso was definitely a fluky one. It isn't Italy or any other team that got extremely lucky, I agree, but that the Reich got unlucky each tournament since 02 and it's TIME to make a change, tbh.
How many Italian fans were expecting the le in 06 and how many Mavs fans in 11? Their overall concept is to outlast the opponent but in each offensive round they never hesitate to make the right passes to find goal chances. Schweinsteiger and Lahm are both in their primes, each having more than 100 national caps, and this year may very well be the last world cup for them (similar to 06' Italy whose key players were mostly around 30). It was Puyol's header that won them the game in 2010, and it was hilarious because air has always been the Reich's strength. If the game came to penalty shootout, Germany would be bound to win. I think Germany should try counter-attack against tough opponents, it's true their offense is more predictable than Spain and Brazil, but it doesn't matter when you play counter-attack imho.
I agree germany has a good team. The concept of german football is to outlast the other team, the an hesis of blitzkrieg which is to defeat in the fastest way possible(and not necessarily direct). Schweinsteiger isn't in prime condition and is overrated tbh. Lahm isn't that valuable. Ozil is one of the key, agree on that, but the geman system will also be its downfall. You beat unorganized teams like portugal with it but a team like italy is gonna give us not because of our defens but because of our predictable offense (2006 vs italy, 2002 vs brazil, 2010 vs spain, all have the same story).
Not many german fans expect a world cup and this should tell you something about a generally football-optimistic country.
the tiki taka spain yes. This del bosque idiocy no. And brazil no.
I get your point.
But if you compare italy 06 and germany today you'd see much more maturity and world class players in that italy side. Buffon is clearly superior. Zambrotta/canavaro/materazzi/grosso is the better defense by far. Pirlo/totti/camoranesi/perota runs rings around the german midfield from all perspectives. Different class sincerely. Goetze/mueller > toni & iaquinta but not by a mile. And yes italy was one of the contenders at that tournament, knowledgeable fans weren't ignoring a team with that much talent.
Picklebreaths have to beat terrors to keep their hope alive imho, no way could they upset Belgium.
Belgium looks way better then in their first game.
Im still not convinced by Belgium. They are gonma get destroyed by a contender in the 2nd round
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