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I do think Vessely would be a great fit for the Spurs. Would take him over Ayers and maybe over Baynes as a 4th big on the cheap.
Project Spurs mentioned their mini mid-level of $3.2 that's what i pegged his value to be for the Spurs. I could see maybe a 2 year, $ 7 million deal with the second year a player option or a 3 year $10-12 million deal with the 3rd a player option.
If he takes the later, that could give him the opportunity to replace Parker as the starting guard (he'd be 35, coming off his 16th season) and could resign to a longer term deal as 28 year old.
I do think Vessely would be a great fit for the Spurs. Would take him over Ayers and maybe over Baynes as a 4th big on the cheap.
I'd love him as more of a PF in the Spurs system, if he can tweak his shot there is know reason to believe he couldn't be a success for the Spurs. He's played SF most of his career and could fill in there as well as a fill especially useful as an extra Lebron and Durant defender.
Isn't the luxury tax threshold expected to be in the ballpark of 77 million in 2014-15? That would mean if OKC amnestied perk they would have close to 16 million before they approached the luxury tax.
Also when you say "replace three rotation guys in Thabo, Fisher, and Perkins" remember that Adams is basically as good and cheap a Perk replacement as you could find, and that Thabo and Butler became literally unplayable in the series that ended OKC's season. Replace those guys with Ariza, Devin Harris, and Jordan Hill and suddenly the Spurs aren't playing 2.5 on 5 for most of every game.
Last edited by benstanfield; 06-20-2014 at 12:00 AM.
Unless I am mistaken they haven't determined it yet.
For 2013-14 it was $71.748 million.
http://cbafaq.com/blog/?p=304
"The NBA issued new projections for the 2014-15 and 2015-16 salary cap and luxury tax thresholds. The 2014-15 salary cap is now projected to be $63.2 million and the tax level is projected to be $77.0 million. The numbers for 2015-16 are now projected to be $66.5 million and $81.0 million, respectively."
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10...arly-5-million
"Sources told ESPN.com that all 30 teams were informed this week via league memorandum that an increase in the cap from this season's $58.6 million to $63.2 million in 2014-15 -- thanks to increased revenues -- is now expected. A corresponding rise in the luxury-tax threshold from $71.7 million to $77 million is also projected, sources said."
I am by no means an expert in this . I have no idea what happens to teams that are above the cap and below the threshold. Spurs had about 8m of "grey area" money to spend this season and they didn't. I assume there is a reason for that.
They won't amnesty him, they're not going to pay 9 Million extra for a player they're not going to get anything out of that's just how the owner operates. I could see him being shopped as an expiring tho.
If that's the case I will have zero sympathy when KD bails. Clay Bennett is worth 400 million dollars.
* Teams above the apron cannot use the bi-annual exception.
* Teams can acquire less salary in a simultaneous trade.
* They have a smaller mid-level exception (they can only offer up to three years as opposed to teams under the tax which can offer up to 4 years).
* Starting in 2013-14 they cannot receive a player in a sign-and-trade transaction.
I would trade all that to bring back Patty and Boris along with another significant FA and be right at the threshold. Balls to the wall for 2014-15.
Apron meaning lux tax threshold.
Spurs should be able to easily add Patty and Boris, sign their 1st round draft choice, and add a mid-level free agent.
Marvin Williams is still my top choice FA if we don't re-sign Patty or if we can find a way to sign him below his market value. He'd be a perfect 3 & D guy for us behind Kawhi and he only turns 28 at the end of the month.
They can afford one of those guys, not three. Just because the luxury tax is 70+ doesn't mean they'll have cap space to hit it. Point taken on Adams but depth is still awful. Ariza alone will cost the full MLE so if Thunder were to get him, they'd be adding all league minimum guys.
Bennett (like Holt with Bonner) is too cheap to use amnesty. It may seem like chump change for them, but $9 million is still $9 million
Scolaaaa!!!
As no-one else has answered this, yes, there is a reason.
Basically, up to the Cap, teams can do whatever the F they want. Sign people to max deals, long term deals, etc.
After teams can spend some money on keeping their own guys, have the MLE(depending on if they used up cap space) and other exceptions to the cap(Minimum salary exception, bi annual exception, 1st round pick exception) that can be used to sign particular deals.
Above the tax, teams lose parts of the deals, and ability to trade (flexibility in taking on more money is reduced).
In finer details, there are ways that this is wrong, but that's the summary paragraph.
Wouldn't mind seeing McRoberts since he is younger and may come more cheaper than a more established veteran ala Pau Gasol...
If the cap is going to be $66.5m in the summer of 2015, we'd have the money to add a max player. That means not committing MLE money to any free agent signing beyond next year, which means not chasing any of the more popular players that could be had for an MLE level salary but for multiple years, i.e. $20m/4yr for Ariza.
I'd happily take McRoberts for the full MLE $5m/1yr and add on additional years only if they are unguaranteed or team options. As long as he can shoot the 3 with at least the same percentage as he did last year (36%) he could be useful to take Bonners minutes as the 4th big.
I'd still keep Bonner at the minimum though, teams won't be banging down the door to keep him and he knows the system, works hard and is supposedly well liked in the locker room.
Isn't sefolosha available? Could be a reasonably priced back up SF. I also like Marion and AK in that slot on a year deal.
Big question is Mills of course. I'm of the belief that belli, with one year under his belt, can fill the spark plug off the bench role should Mills leave. I'd love to keep mills, but he'd be dumb not to explore getting a nice NBA contract at this point in his career.
As for a quality big, spurs are either going to have to draft him or acquire him via trade. It'd be tough via FA. Spurs biggest trade asset is splitter who is good value at his contract, especially since the amounts owed decrease over the years. The question is whether the big coming back In the trade is really an upgrade to splitter. Someone in another thread threw out Hortford, which I thought was intriguing.
The other move that needs to happen is to bring Bertans over. He can use a year to acclimate.
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