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    Like I said... tmtcsc's Avatar
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    Reporters are lauding Pat Riley for being a "Bawse" after his media day speech, but it came off as desperate to me. What has he done? He got Shaq to come over to Miami and teamed him up with Wade. Genius move? LA wanted to rid themselves of Shaq and had a willing partner in Miami.

    LeBron, Wade and Bosh wanted to play together and figured Miami was the place to do it. What did Riley have to do with that? Was this another Genius move?

    I think he's desperate because he didn't do enough to sustain what they have by getting additional talent. Lots of talk from him and little action. He had a chance to show his GM skills and all he did was cut Mike Miller & pick up Oden? Genius.

    I hope Lebron walks. Wade is done and Bosh is overrated. Time to earn your paycheck Riles.

    On another note: Scoop Jackson is on First Take this morning saying that SA won't replicate what they did last year. Why is that Scoop? No reason, just him thinking that they played too good. Stupid. The world knows what Lebron knows, this should have been SA's back to back domination of Heat.

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    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    I was impressed. He handled it well. Waited a few days before speaking which was wise. He's got two in this LeBron Time. That is an indisputable fact. I don't do the "We've been to the Finals 4 times." thing though. Though this is going to be pounded in by ESPN, thru the au es of Cowherd and the affiliates along the line.

    Just thank Christ we ain't an affiliate.

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    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    On another note: Scoop Jackson is on First Take this morning saying that SA won't replicate what they did last year. Why is that Scoop? No reason, just him thinking that they played too good. Stupid. The world knows what Lebron knows, this should have been SA's back to back domination of Heat.
    And Media/ESPN is faced with the sobering reality "the morning after" that there is just the one ring to go around each June. Last June took care of itself for them. This June took care of itself for them, but, not quite so much. Angst is now creeping in. "They" cannot afford for James to languish. founder & sink. SA ain't worth it.

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    What exactly can Pat Riley do at this point? His biggest Superstar is carrying too much of a burden and his previous one is at the end of his career. His best role players are gone and he has to surround James with enough talent to convince him to come back. The Spurs were unquestionably the best team this year but you can make an argument that the Heat weren't the second best. They should have re-tooled last year.

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    What exactly can Pat Riley do at this point? His biggest Superstar is carrying too much of a burden and his previous one is at the end of his career. His best role players are gone and he has to surround James with enough talent to convince him to come back. The Spurs were unquestionably the best team this year but you can make an argument that the Heat weren't the second best. They should have re-tooled last year.
    He needs them to take pay cuts, or at least Wade and Bosh which isn't happening. Hence why Riley is overrated.

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    I was impressed. He handled it well. Waited a few days before speaking which was wise. He's got two in this LeBron Time. That is an indisputable fact. I don't do the "We've been to the Finals 4 times." thing though. Though this is going to be pounded in by ESPN, thru the au es of Cowherd and the affiliates along the line.

    Just thank Christ we ain't an affiliate.

    Hmm...yet you bring it up for other teams with every other post. More Dale hypocrisy.

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    Bosshog in the cut djohn2oo8's Avatar
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    Hmm...yet you bring it up for other teams with every other post. More Dale hypocrisy.

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    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    Hmm...yet you bring it up for other teams with every other post. More Dale hypocrisy.
    Horse .

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    Backup Goddess, tbh. Gummi Clutch's Avatar
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    Lebron isn't going anywhere. People need to wake up.

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    Bosshog in the cut djohn2oo8's Avatar
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    Lebron isn't going anywhere. People need to wake up.
    Maybe not this year, but if they don't win next year he will.

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    Backup Goddess, tbh. Gummi Clutch's Avatar
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    Maybe not this year, but if they don't win next year he will.
    perhaps, but thats a whole lot of time for a team that just got back from the finals.

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    As I've said before, Riley doesn't believe in actually building a team. He instead believes in buying already-made talent. That's why he constantly trades his picks and signs nothing but older vets or "buy-low" players like Beasley or Oden. The Heat roster has had not upside the last few years outside of the Big Three becoming "motivated" and playing at a higher level than they were previously. There weren't any young players growing into bigger roles. There was no youth there to soak up Wade's minutes. They had no one on their d-league squad who they had any real hope for. Their summer-league team sucks. They never even played the relatively young players they have until it was too late (meaning the playoffs at all).

    I think Miami can probably patch together a le-winning team with one more strong acquisition. But the point is, they shouldn't have to. But now, there should be some young player(s) proven enough to take the some of the load. The fact that there isn't such a person is Riley's fault.

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    You have no idea UZER's Avatar
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    Really? Do I need to copy pasta all the 6 references?

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    Really? Do I need to copy pasta all the 6 references?
    Go.

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    You have no idea UZER's Avatar
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    Nah, you knows uza horse liar.

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    Nah, you knows uza horse liar.
    That's what I thought.

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    Riley telling Lebron and the others to "stay if you have the guts" is comical. I imagine it was a much different conversation when he pitched Lebron the idea of leaving Cleveland. Things have turned now. Lebron can go into Riley's office, dump his 2 rings on the table and say "I want more of these, see ya".

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    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    Riley telling Lebron and the others to "stay if you have the guts" is comical. I imagine it was a much different conversation when he pitched Lebron the idea of leaving Cleveland. Things have turned now. Lebron can go into Riley's office, dump his 2 rings on the table and say "I want more of these, see ya".
    & perhaps that is what Riley really wants. Maybe that is why the harsh & accusatory words and tone.

    But, how would that get Wade to go away? It won't. He ain't goin' nowhere.

    So, he can't do without James, and he can't do with Wade.

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    That's what I thought.
    See...you thought it too. Even you know uza horse liar.

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    Wade and Bosh are coming back unless they get traded. Their contracts would never be matched by anyone in their right mind.

    LeBron doesn't listen to anybody but himself and maybe select members of his crew.

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    all these front office presidents and owners talk to lebron like he's a little boy. first gilbert and now riley.

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    Like I said... tmtcsc's Avatar
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    & perhaps that is what Riley really wants. Maybe that is why the harsh & accusatory words and tone.

    But, how would that get Wade to go away? It won't. He ain't goin' nowhere.

    So, he can't do without James, and he can't do with Wade.
    You're right. Riley needs them all to opt out and restructure. Wade needs $$ under the table from ownership because he's going to cost them over 40 mil for the next 2 seasons. Basically, "Hey guys, do you have the guts to sacrifice $$ for the sake of the team and fix the mess I've gotten us in to? DO YA?!?".
    Lol, Bawes. I wouldn't blame Lebron for leaving one bit. He gave them 4 good years. It's no secret he's a mercenary now. He didn't demand trades. He's played out his contract options and obligations.

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    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    all these front office presidents and owners talk to lebron like he's a little boy. first gilbert and now riley.
    Though Silver entrusted him to march Sterling those 13 steps to scaffold where he was unceremoniously lynched and still swings to this very day.

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    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    You're right. Riley needs them all to opt out and restructure. Wade needs $$ under the table from ownership because he's going to cost them over 40 mil for the next 2 seasons. Basically, "Hey guys, do you have the guts to sacrifice $$ for the sake of the team and fix the mess I've gotten us in to? DO YA?!?".
    Lol, Bawes. I wouldn't blame Lebron for leaving one bit. He gave them 4 good years. It's no secret he's a mercenary now. He didn't demand trades. He's played out his contract options and obligations.
    He's a great planner, he just did not plan for the Spurs. He had everybody else solved. He just didn't see the Spurs coming until last June. Twixt the Junes is where is is culpable and where he turned loose of the wheel.

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    Came off as hypocritical to me. As OP pointed out, Riley as made a living off guys doing exactly this "This stuff is hard. And you got to stay together, if you've got the guts. And you don't find the first door and run out of it,"

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