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    How much times can Manu Duncan? Tell me... Last year wasn't enough?
    Last year Manu Duncan into one for thumb. And vice versa

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    I hope he tears his ACL and has to retire.
    Has anyone ever told you, you are an epic wit?

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    this actually sucks as a Spurs fan but I would also love to see him go up against the Philippines..

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    this actually sucks as a Spurs fan but I would also love to see him go up against the Philippines..
    Is there any interesting about PH ?

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    ElNono and DAF working overtime three shift a day on dat one

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    All the haters acknowledging how important Manu actually is.

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    I have met Yacht. He would smash you. Wussy.
    I've seen his picture. He doesn't really personify intimidation.
    I hope he tears his ACL and has to retire.
    More try hard bads.

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    ElNono and DAF working overtime three shift a day on dat one
    the betrayal

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    That's pretty much my point, if he drives the lane in the World Cup and pulls his hamstring is it the World Cup's fault and the 100ish international games he has played over the last 10 years? Or the 900ish NBA games he has played over the last 10 years.
    I believe the number of games he will be playing and the levels of exertion he will be emitting will be insignificant in his quality of play next year. By the general consensus here, it doesn't make sense to play him at all until at least playoffs next year.
    International ball might even help, dude is getting older every year and could probably do well with the extra early conditioning boost for the next season.
    The general consensus is not "don't play him until the playoffs". I am extreme, and I said March, I think. Half joking. He needs to play some before the playoffs, obviously, for rythm and conditioning purposes. But not in June-August. And, most are extending their start dates for his play later in the season BECAUSE OF HIS DECISION. Your consensus is way off. Either you didn't read the whole thread (I understand, it's long) or you were being disingenuous. Either case, wrong.

    No, it's not the World Cup's fault. It's no one's "fault". But, it would not have happened in the World Cup if he wasn't playing in the World Cup. End of story. You may believe the added number of games is insignificant, but you would be wrong. If you ask an actuarian that specializes in insuring athletes to insure him for those 10 games and 30 practices, or 6 games and 20 practices, or whatever the case may be, depending upon how far they advance, do you think his premium will be zero? Do you think the actuary will perform all calculations for a 37 year old man, chaos of game play, etc. and arrive at a probability of zero that he will get injured? Do you think the actuary, coach pop, and doctors will really believe that Manu will be BETTER OFF with further game-level exertion over the summer? Conditioning can be maintained in other ways; in a more controllable environment. You don't need to play in international compe ion to maintain conditioning. Ludicrous.

    Do you think the actuary, doctors, and Pop would conclude that it would be more risky for him to play? Obvious.

    Injury can happen closing his car door, but you can't mitigate those things. You can only mitigate what you can. Do you think Pop would like, if he had his druthers, to have Manu to risk for himself, for Spurs games? Sure, he may get injured at any point in a Spurs game, as well, and wear is ulative, but Pop would like to only be rolling the dice for US. It is why Pop limits his minutes so carefully ALREADY. Why would he volunteer to play him more if he didn't have to? He wouldn't.

    It is the same with motorcycles and athletes. It is unlikely that an athlete suffers an injury on a motorcycle. However, do you want one of your athletes driving one? no. Of course not. (I am a motorcycle ower. But, taking passion out of things, they are riskier than cars. True story. And, watch an old guy vs. young guy wreck on a motorcycle...life threatening vs. get up and dust yourself off in the same situation, sometimes - bones crack when you're young...shatter when you're old...but I digress) And, they write that into contracts. They would prevent this international play for the same reason, if they could. The Spurs can't.

    It is selfish of us, but to float a notion that there is no added risk, and that it's actually better for a 37 year old to be out there flinging himself around the court over the summer is good for us. Silly. Any benefit in conditioning is far outweighed by the risk. Ask the actuary.

    I, and most, are not saying that Manu doesn't have a right to do this. He does. It is the way the NBA is structured. However, it is also reasonable for Spurs fans to be saddened with his choice. The window for a repeat is here and now, and fleeting and fragile. Fleeting and fragile. I love Manu. He seems like a great guy. That he wants to play for his country is also a positive reflection on his character, but it still detracts from what he can give The Spurs. For that, I, and many of us, are reasonably disappointed. Full Manu > Partial Manu, even if the differential is only 1%. Fleeting and fragile.

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    Manu feels good physically right now, of course he wants to play with his NT.

    That kind of compe iveness is in his nature, it´s who he is, and after twelve years I´m sure the FO knows this and made a choice to live with it, because at the end of the day that will bring them more benefits than regrets.

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    Manu feels good physically right now, of course he wants to play with his NT.

    That kind of compe iveness is in his nature, it´s who he is, and after twelve years I´m sure the FO knows this and made a choice to live with it, because at the end of the day that will bring them more benefits than regrets.
    Yes. They made a choice to accept it. That is different than to say they would prefer it, and that it benefits them.

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    i´m not saying that him playing internationals tournaments benefits the Spurs, i´m saying that the same crazy fire that makes manu go play a world cup at age 37 is the one that makes him go for the the dunk in Crhis Bosh face and change the momentum of a game.

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    i´m not saying that him playing internationals tournaments benefits the Spurs, i´m saying that the same crazy fire that makes manu go play a world cup at age 37 is the one that makes him go for the the dunk in Crhis Bosh face and change the momentum of a game.

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    Will his ty country offset his Spurs salary in worthless, inflation-plagued Argentina currency via a check to Peter Holt? I thought not.......
    It's not about the money. It's about representing his country and playing with good friends. People don't seem to have a problem with that concept when it's the Olympics and it's the USA players doing it. Manu draped a flag on his shoulders for a reason.

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    What's Manu's diet like these days? If he's got a good diet, and he keeps to it during the off-season and season, I think that will go a long way in helping his body stay strong. To me, nutrition is very important and I think it makes a huge difference in how long you can play at a high level and stay healthy.

    A lot of NBA players seem to have diets and it's no wonder than they break down early and look like total in their early to mid-thirties. You really got to have a good diet if you want as good a chance as possible to stay healthy and keep playing at a high level when you're an older player/athlete.
    I don't know what his diet is like, but you bring up a good point. We need to get some Baker Street Irregulars on it, monitor those septic clean outs and traps, get a hold of some stool samples so we can monitor the sitch. Calculate C/P ratios, etc.

    *C/P corn to peanuts

    Joking aside, diet is mentioned sometimes in Tim's resurgence. I assume they all have personal chefs and dieticians, but what do I know. Daye mentioned that he has one.

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    It's not about the money. It's about representing his country and playing with good friends. People don't seem to have a problem with that concept when it's the Olympics and it's the USA players doing it. Manu draped a flag on his shoulders for a reason.
    why you people reply to this sick guys without life? I really don't get it...


    PD: I'm talking about skull-1 and such...
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    All the soft pussy posters who trying to defend his dicision, saying he deserved to do what he wants cause we just won the le, or it's his life, or Spurs can live with him playing summer ball, or Spurs will not hurt much by this next season, etc... You are all ing losers!!! And you are also don't see that the main problem with his dicision is not him physical playing that tournament, it's his mindset that not in the right place, not totally on repeating!!! It's like he becoming easygoing Manu once again, that the at ude that led to the 2013 playoff version of Manu!
    Coming from a guy contemplating suicide after a Spurs loss.

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    It's a myth that every player in the Spur system will improve after one year. Jefferson never got better. Blair never got better. Mason never got better. Gary Neal was worse by his 3rd year in SA. Beno never did anything better in his 2nd year. DeColo looked just as bad in year two. ty players will always be ty players no matter how much time they spend in the Spurs system.
    Not "every player". Let's talk about one player, Marco. Let's talk about likelihoods, not inevitabilities. Marco is LIKELY to improve, and given that what he already gave us was a of a lot, his improvement will be gravy. The myth you speak of is more fact than myth. All of those players probably got better in their second years, at least in some aspects of understanding the system, etc. The issue is their RATE of improvement and their ceilings and their costs. All of those things are in flux...

    Jefferson was probably a better player his second year, but he still sucked in comparison to what was expected of him and what he was being paid, and his rate of improvement had leveled off and/or reached a ceiling.

    Blair was surely better in some ways, understanding the system, etc, but pouting and fat. Gary. Gary was so much worse his third year that he priced himself out of a Spurs uniform!

    Most players that aren't on the end of the bench do better. Even most of the ones on the end of the bench do better. Marco is more likely to follow that trend than not. Picking the outliers from the data and say that they define the rule doesn't work. Much more reasonable to err on the side that Marco will improve, at least marginally, than to follow the less likely trend.

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    This news displeases me, but hopefully Pop doesn't lay him hardly at all until January. If he refuses to rest in the summer have him rest in the first part of the season.

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    I have met Yacht. He would smash you. Wussy.
    I can also you up big time - didnt know thegreat had a bf

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    Oh my ing god what a selfish scrub the spurs are going to go 0-82 now, I'll never forgive him for what he's done to TD etc
    LOL how old are you

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    All the soft pussy posters who trying to defend his dicision, saying he deserved to do what he wants cause we just won the le, or it's his life, or Spurs can live with him playing summer ball, or Spurs will not hurt much by this next season, etc... You are all ing losers!!! And you are also don't see that the main problem with his dicision is not him physical playing that tournament, it's his mindset that not in the right place, not totally on repeating!!! It's like he becoming easygoing Manu once again, that the at ude that led to the 2013 playoff version of Manu!
    you are a ing loser - think about it for a minute...

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    To be honest, this is a terrible decision. He's holding his team hostage yet again. He should be resting himself for defending this le. He should have passed on the reigns of international basketball 3 years ago. This should be all behind him. Emmanuel still has some growth on his perspective.
    please dont be honest

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    Why do some people hate Manu Ginobili so much? He did just play a crucial role in winning a championship for our team just a few days ago.

    It's also a bit of a contradiction. If you hate Manu (i.e. think he's overrated), then you shouldn't be concerned about him playing in the summer because he's merely a role player for the Spurs now. If you do think his summer activity significantly affects the Spurs, then you clearly think highly of his contribution.

    I'm neither a Manu fan nor hater, so I have no stake in that debate. It's just, some of you talk about him as if he raped and murdered your mother, and it's weird and funny.
    Thank you

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    It's not about the money. It's about representing his country and playing with good friends. People don't seem to have a problem with that concept when it's the Olympics and it's the USA players doing it. Manu draped a flag on his shoulders for a reason.

    I have a problem with with it when you are an over-the-hill, injury prone, TOSB.

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