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    Yeah this is a pretty deep draft, so acquiring additional picks and strengthening at multiple positions makes some sense. I just wonder what or who it would cost them to acquire. No one is really expendable on the squad that's worth anything.
    Well the players that were drafted like Bertrans, Livo, etc are all expendable.
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    I dont believe in the possibility of Livio being dealt...

    Bertrans could be but he's not the main piece in any deal, pretty much exclusively a sweetener, dont really see the point given how low his value would be to the other team.

    Beli is imo the favorite to be dealt for a pick, his playoff plus minus has to be negative for sure, his pairing with an old Manu is a big fail, it's one of the easiest thing to see so if you could flip him for a Jordan Adams of a Bogdanovic you dont think about it even one second and you jump on the opportunity imo...

    Actually drafting Adams would also give the team a nice insurance with Green becoming a FA next summer...
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    I dont believe in the possibility of Livio being dealt...

    Bertrand could be but he's not the main piece in any deal, pretty much exclusively a sweetener, dont really see the point given how low his value would be to the other team.

    Beli is imo the favorite to be dealt for a pick, his playoff plus minus has to be negative for sure, his pairing with an old Manu is a big fail, it's one of the easiest thing to see so if you could flip him for a Jordan Adams of a Bogdanovic you dont think about it even one second and you jump on the opportunity imo...

    Actually drafting Adams would also give the team a nice insurance with Green becoming a FA next summer...
    Two problems with dealing Beli for a pick.

    One: he has a salary. Most teams are looking for picks or already drafted unsigned players, assets that won't hit their cap sheet.
    Two: as bad as he was in the playoffs, we NEED him in the regular season, especially now that Manu is back playing NT ball.
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    The Bulls have made it known throughout the league one or both of their first-round picks in Thursday’s draft are available. In an attempt to save salary-cap space for additions this summer, the Bulls are trying to avoid adding two rookie-scale contracts. Chicago Tribune
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    The Bulls have made it known throughout the league one or both of their first-round picks in Thursday’s draft are available. In an attempt to save salary-cap space for additions this summer, the Bulls are trying to avoid adding two rookie-scale contracts. Chicago Tribune
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    Are they looking for assets or are they willing to sell for cash straight-up? Because if it's the latter...

    Then again, Holt isn't exactly known for his willingness to spend.
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    Are they looking for assets or are they willing to sell for cash straight-up? Because if it's the latter...

    Then again, Holt isn't exactly known for his willingness to spend.
    Well, if they don't want 2014 salary back, then they want cash, future picks, stashed picks, or some combination. I couldn't access the full article from the Chicago Tribune, just that one line from Hoopshype.
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    Two problems with dealing Beli for a pick.

    One: he has a salary. Most teams are looking for picks or already drafted unsigned players, assets that won't hit their cap sheet.
    Two: as bad as he was in the playoffs, we NEED him in the regular season, especially now that Manu is back playing NT ball.
    That's a great point but I only partially agree, there should be plenty of SG minutes to be had but I think they could be used to groom a rookie... It doesn't seem like a good idea to wait until Manu retires to get his replacement on the team... Unlike Splitter there isn't really a case for Beli imo, his negative impact has been pretty steady...

    Regarding the Bulls picks here's what I found (from SI) :

    Chicago is aggressively trying to move its two first-round picks, according to rival executives. The Bulls are believed to be looking for either a veteran scorer or the chance to move up in the draft to select a young wing player with scoring potential.
    I think Charlotte's 24th pick and the Sun's 27th pick are more realistic targets but who knows...
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    Wondering which of these guys turn out to be busts. By face value, I'm thinking Tavares, Saric, Payne, Vonleh, Ennis, and Capela (if he goes top 20). Stauskas too, if he remains soft.
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    @SHowardCooper: Isaiah Austin has career-ending medical condition, Baylor announces. bit.ly/1ixz1s4
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    @SHowardCooper: Isaiah Austin has career-ending medical condition, Baylor announces. bit.ly/1ixz1s4
    Damn this guy got some ty luck, feel bad for him...
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    @SHowardCooper: Isaiah Austin has career-ending medical condition, Baylor announces. bit.ly/1ixz1s4
    Man, that sucks for him.
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    @SHowardCooper: Isaiah Austin has career-ending medical condition, Baylor announces. bit.ly/1ixz1s4
    You gotta feel for the guy. That is awful news. On the bright side though it's good he entered the draft this year because obviously the condition is life threatening and was diagnosed by the NBA's testing.
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    Michael Scotto ‏@MikeAScotto 1h Sources: San Antonio Spurs will bring in Walter Tavares for a workout today. Tavares (7'3") has become a rising center prospect. #NBADraft





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    Billy Baron worked out with Spurs this weekend and will workout with the Pistons this morning. Last workout as of now scheduled he told me
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    Tavares is intriguing, but rarely does a player that size not break down fairly quickly.
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    isaiah austin's basketball career if officially over due to a heart condition.


    EDIT: already posted. sucks for austin but his health is more important.
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    For all the guys that keep saying Embiid has same injury as James Anderson - you are wrong. Anderson had stress fracture on 5th metatarsal bone, which is quite "far away" from navicular bone.
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    you just decided that it's chronic tbh, also i wouldn't draft him btw, just saying i don't see him sliding him that much.
    You don't know much about stress fractures, do you.
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    Intrigued by the news of Chicago wanting to trade the 19th. Could they accept a teams 2015 first rounder plus a 2014/future 2nds? Can't see them trading it away for salary at or exceeding the value of the 19th.
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    Quick question as i'm more intrigued to who the spurs draft this year than any others..what significance does bringing in a player for a workout hold to the spurs? Spurs are pretty discrete and usually any 'leaks' of what the spurs intend to do never happen. How often do the spurs draft a player they have worked out?
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    Quick question as i'm more intrigued to who the spurs draft this year than any others..what significance does bringing in a player for a workout hold to the spurs? Spurs are pretty discrete and usually any 'leaks' of what the spurs intend to do never happen. How often do the spurs draft a player they have worked out?
    Actually the Livio pick kinda leaked... Even last year second round pick was kinda expected as everyone remembered the Deshaun Thomas line about not giving his phone number to the Spurs at the draft combine...

    When they want to be secretive like they did with Kawhi they don't bring in the player for a workout, cause if you do chances are it's gonna leak...

    The Livio leak was more about him not doing any workout after he got the Hoop summit mvp, that clearly told everyone he got a promise and the Spurs seemed like the most likely team to have given it to him, especially since he played for TP's team...

    This year Jokic and Inglis are acting like they got promises so then again I think a lot of us expect the Spurs to pick at least one of the two...
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    Quick question as i'm more intrigued to who the spurs draft this year than any others..what significance does bringing in a player for a workout hold to the spurs? Spurs are pretty discrete and usually any 'leaks' of what the spurs intend to do never happen. How often do the spurs draft a player they have worked out?
    They work out a bunch of guys and draft only one. If you can figure out which one, I'm sure other teams would pay you for the info, but so far, they almost never figure it out.
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    Many people in this thread seem certain that OKC had given Jokic a promise at #29 and that SA has given Ingliis a promise at #30.

    My question is: If we flipped picks with Presti, would we draft Jokic rather than Ingliis?
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    Actually the Livio pick kinda leaked... Even last year second round pick was kinda expected as everyone remembered the Deshaun Thomas line about not giving his phone number to the Spurs at the draft combine...

    When they want to be secretive like they did with Kawhi they don't bring in the player for a workout, cause if you do chances are it's gonna leak...

    The Livio leak was more about him not doing any workout after he got the Hoop summit mvp, that clearly told everyone he got a promise and the Spurs seemed like the most likely team to have given it to him, especially since he played for TP's team...

    This year Jokic and Inglis are acting like they got promises so then again I think a lot of us expect the Spurs to pick at least one of the two...
    The Spurs also pull out a lot of weird stuff. Like the Batum stuff of him having a heart condition and not working out with anyone.

    So the Blazers steal Batum before the Spurs can get him..... However... Spurs draft Hill that they use to get Leonard.
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