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    Does anyone know anything about Khem Birch? He's projected to be taken at 56 on DXs mock draft. That's two picks before the Spurs' first second-rounder, but it's well in the range to make him a possible prospect.

    From what I read about him, he's extremely raw and doesn't know how to shoot. He's also weak in his lower body and lacks a post game. The plus side is that he's a very strong rebounder/shot-blocker with great athleticism and mobility. He also seems to have the potential to shore up some of his weaknesses if he's allowed a couple of seasons to develop. If there's an open spot on the roster for a big, I'd be pretty interested in taking a flier on Birch instead of simply stashing a pick. He seems like he could develop into a better version of what Ayres is now. (Jeff has a chance to move up to being a regular-rotation player if he learns to shoot. If not, he's just an undersized by decently athletic center who's too old to be as raw as he is.)

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    The general consensus among some NBA personnel is that the Bucks, who are obviously in a rebuilding mode, could obtain a late-first round pick for the 27-year-old Ilyasova in what is regarded as one of the most deep and talented draft in years."

    http://journaltimes.com/sports/bucks...a4bcf887a.html


    The article mentions Phoenix, OKC and Houston as possible trade partners.

    The Spurs could make a play for him, though their pick is obviously lower than what Phoenix and OKC could offer (PHX has 3 picks, including the 26th and OKC has the 21st and 29th)
    Spurs can't match salary as far as I can tell.

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    I think there's a good chance that Payne falls into the Spurs' range. His age is likely to scare teams off until around Miami's pick/OKC's natural pick. Payne is pretty much an oli tycoon's DeShaun Thomas. He wouldn't be an ideal piece the Spurs need in their big rotation, but he would make a great go-to option off the bench if Splitter is next to him.

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    Michael Scotto: Sources:San Antonio Spurs will bring in Walter Tavares for a workout today. Tavares (7'3") has become a rising center prospect. #NBADraft "

    from hoopshype.
    I'd be happy with Tavares at #30, he just signed an extension with Gran Canaria so we'll be able to stash him for a couple of seasons...

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    Does anyone know anything about Khem Birch? He's projected to be taken at 56 on DXs mock draft. That's two picks before the Spurs' first second-rounder, but it's well in the range to make him a possible prospect.

    From what I read about him, he's extremely raw and doesn't know how to shoot. He's also weak in his lower body and lacks a post game. The plus side is that he's a very strong rebounder/shot-blocker with great athleticism and mobility. He also seems to have the potential to shore up some of his weaknesses if he's allowed a couple of seasons to develop. If there's an open spot on the roster for a big, I'd be pretty interested in taking a flier on Birch instead of simply stashing a pick. He seems like he could develop into a better version of what Ayres is now. (Jeff has a chance to move up to being a regular-rotation player if he learns to shoot. If not, he's just an undersized by decently athletic center who's too old to be as raw as he is.)
    He's my realistic 2nd round prospect. Like most college bigs, I want to know what he's like at screening. That's a thing that doesn't show up in stats, but I think is really important to the Spurs offense. Tiago, Tim and Diaw don't lay the wood in the same way Baynes does, but setting smart screens at good angles is an underrated skill that shows up in RPM type numbers.

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    I think there's a good chance that Payne falls into the Spurs' range. His age is likely to scare teams off until around Miami's pick/OKC's natural pick. Payne is pretty much an oli tycoon's DeShaun Thomas. He wouldn't be an ideal piece the Spurs need in their big rotation, but he would make a great go-to option off the bench if Splitter is next to him.
    There's a lot to like about him actually. He's a stretch 4 with decent size and good athleticism. He developed under great coaching and seems to have a team-first mentality. I think he's a solid role player on the next level. Unfortunately, I don't think he drops to the Spurs.

    Someone with a very similar skillset is Cory Jefferson from Baylor...only he developed in spite of his coaching. It's crazy to say, but at 23 I think there's still some potential to tap in that kid. Possible stretch 4 in the mid-late second.

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    Payne came out poorly in the WaRP projections at -0.1.

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    Dump James and Daye. Re-sign everyone else. That leaves us two roster spots.
    How much you think Spurs can re-sign Baynes for?

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    How much you think Spurs can re-sign Baynes for?
    I don't think there's a huge market for him at much above minimum.

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    How much you think Spurs can re-sign Baynes for?
    Basically he'd return for about $1 million. Cheap but not sure in love with the idea of both Baynes and Ayers returning. Baynes is better but Ayers is already under contract.

    I'd rather let Baynes walk and put our eggs in another basket. That or try and move Ayers (doubtful) Neither have shown that they can be consistent enough to be a 4th big man.

    Thats why i'm in favor of drafting a big man. Thats really the area we could use some depth behind Duncan, Diaw and Splitter.

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    I don't think there's a huge market for him at much above minimum.
    Don't think there would really be any market for him. He has shown flashes but he has a pretty low profile considering he was the 5th big for most of the season.

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    Here are the projections of whom the Spurs will pick, based on the latest mocks:

    NBA.com: Jarnell Stokes
    ESPN: Cleanthony Early
    Yahoo! Sports: Walter Tavares
    Sports Illustrated: Walter Tavares
    CBS Sports: Jarnell Stokes
    USA Today: Vasilje Micic
    DraftExpress: Mitch McGary
    NBADraft.net: Bogdan Bogdanovic

    Needless to say, all of the above names can now officially be ruled out for whom R.C. will actually take on draft night.

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    Thanks. I think he's a wise sign for a mill, I'd like him to be back, I think he fits a role and during the course of the season and in certain situations Spurs need a guy like that. Ayers is overpaid but under contract. Would think they'd both continue to improve. Wouldn't be surprised to see Baynes leave for a bigger role and more $ elsewhere. I just like the Banger.

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    @ESPNNBA: #NBADraft prospect Dario Saric signs 3-year deal to stay in Europe (via chadfordinsider).


    http://t.co/COsxZdYkYr http://t.co/Vbta6uvRVM

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    Here are the projections of whom the Spurs will pick, based on the latest mocks:

    NBA.com: Jarnell Stokes
    ESPN: Cleanthony Early
    Yahoo! Sports: Walter Tavares
    Sports Illustrated: Walter Tavares
    CBS Sports: Jarnell Stokes
    USA Today: Vasilje Micic
    DraftExpress: Mitch McGary
    NBADraft.net: Bogdan Bogdanovic

    Needless to say, all of the above names can now officially be ruled out for whom R.C. will actually take on draft night.
    I'm starting to narrow my own interest to Walter Tavares. Rarely do you see a kid with that size plus any mobility whatsoever. That he's still raw, yet has a decent free throw stroke, that he seems to have a good, natural feel for the game, and that he seems to be mature as a young person are all pluses. From Cape Verde, he'd be a Portuguese speaker, so Splitter could help him. My main worry would be long-term health, but you don't see a guy with his upside usually at #30, but this draft is different.

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    Spurs can't match salary as far as I can tell.
    Yeah the Ayers, Joseph, and Daye package (along with the 30th) would only be about $7.2 million to his $7.9 but Milwaukee is only at $46 million in salary so we wouldn't need to. Spurs just don't have non essential assets

    The problem is that if Houston or OKC is interested then any deal we'd offer would be worse than any of theirs. OKC can offer Perkins and the 21st or the 29th.

    Houston could, move Lin or Osik along with the 26th pick for Illysova. They would have to move the other player to another team under the cap to move closer to clearing out space to get Melo.

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    Spurs can't match salary as far as I can tell.
    Yeah the Ayers, Joseph, and Daye package (along with the 30th) would only be about $7.2 million to his $7.9 but Milwaukee is only at $46 million in salary so we wouldn't need to. Spurs just don't have non essential assets

    The problem is that if Houston or OKC is interested then any deal we'd offer would be worse than any of theirs. OKC can offer Perkins and the 21st or the 29th.

    Houston could, move Lin or Osik along with the 26th pick for Illysova. They would have to move the other player to another team under the cap to move closer to clearing out space to get Melo.

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    Bulls looking to move their draft picks (16th and 19th) because they don't want the salary that comes along with them. Would cost them about $3.7 million. If the Afflalo deal happens at least one of those picks are heading to Orlando. Maybe the Spurs could move up by offering the 30th (The Bulls could draft and stash that pick) the 58th and 60th along with a future second rounder for the 19th pick.

    http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/6/2...st-round-picks

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    Yeah the Ayers, Joseph, and Daye package (along with the 30th) would only be about $7.2 million to his $7.9 but Milwaukee is only at $46 million in salary so we wouldn't need to. Spurs just don't have non essential assets

    The problem is that if Houston or OKC is interested then any deal we'd offer would be worse than any of theirs. OKC can offer Perkins and the 21st or the 29th.

    Houston could, move Lin or Osik along with the 26th pick for Illysova. They would have to move the other player to another team under the cap to move closer to clearing out space to get Melo.
    Including Beli in the essential players is really pushing it...

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    Including Beli in the essential players is really pushing it...
    i didn't mention him but i don't think he is essential.

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    In case you haven't read it in ThinkTank, looks like Bertans is coming over for the next season. This will probably effect Spurs drafting mindset.

    @DBertans_44: Bogdan (@LeaderOfHorde) is Serbian Kobe Bryant.He might have a better shot than Bryant. Next season we will both be in the NBA

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    Interesting...

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    In case you haven't read it in ThinkTank, looks like Bertans is coming over for the next season. This will probably effect Spurs drafting mindset.

    @DBertans_44: Bogdan (@LeaderOfHorde) is Serbian Kobe Bryant.He might have a better shot than Bryant. Next season we will both be in the NBA
    Interesting... If he's playing SF I don't think this has a big impact on their plans tho.

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    Interesting... If he's playing SF I don't think this has a big impact on their plans tho.
    He is SF, but could probably also be a stretch 4 in small ball lineup.

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    lol @ claiming Bogdanovic has a better shot than Kobe Bryant.

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