Reply With Quote
He was pretty clutch for us, tho.
I have no rebuttal, other than I think he can turn his at ude around in SA, Indy was a terrible environment. and if he does he would be an amazing value, since his head problems are going to severely reduce his next contract
Last edited by vander; 06-23-2014 at 12:45 PM.
He was pretty clutch for us, tho.
Agreed with this. If Tim is happy to take $14m over 2 years, why not pay him $13m next year and the minimum in 2015/16?
The only downside is how it looks, but I seriously doubt Timmy or the Spurs organisation care about that. Who cares if he 'only' makes the minimum if he got his pay check the year before?
Doubt it. Someone gonna pay dat man.
Agreed.
Lance Stephenson is the only guy that you wouldn't sign even for the vet min.
There are rumors about him becoming a cancer after he learnt that he was not selected for the All-Stars Game. Even before that there are many cases of his questionable character.
Maybe Pop can control or change him, maybe the Spurs family culture and environment can change him. But I wouldn't want to risk the possible last year of Timmy and Manu.
Chicago is the example you use of a team you are scared of? *If* Rose is healthy which we haven't seen and quite frankly I think it's a long shot at this point that he's ever the same player he was. *If* they get Kevin Love who we aren't even sure is being traded this offseason. Lots of ifs ifs ifs. Meanwhile Spurs have been the best team in the West the last two years on the strength of continuity and internal growth. But yeah, panic moves and change for the sake of change. That's what they need.
Now that I think about it, could Tim be taking less money for the Spurs to buy another 1st in the draft? Several teams are reported to be shopping picks including the Bulls and Suns and the going rate for 1st rounders is approximately at $3 million...
Doubt it but never know.
We should have a Twitter button
Slomo, imo
I would say the Spurs winning the west the last 2 years had more to do with injuries and Diaw/Mills taking their game to another level than "Continuity and Growth". Houston will be better next year, Thunder will be better next year (baring injury), Clippers should be better next year unless they screw it up...
staying put is conceding tbh
Timmy probably made this decision after seeing Manu is going for the World Cup.
If Rose stays healthy, he would absolutely make Chicago scary. They play 1-5 solid defense and are modeling their franchise similarly to ours. If they get Love they would be my favorite to make the Finals, but even with just Melo they could be a serious threat. Let's not pretend like we're invincible less than two months after facing a do or die game in the playoffs on our home court.
, please...we'd absolutely punk Chicago in the Finals.
I'm with you, Richie, and Vander...there are so many more possibilities with Tim doing this than we can see on the surface. I would be skeptical that it is JUST to sign Boris and Patty.
The East teams are absolutely not a threat.
The only teams that are worth worrying are OKC, GS (if love is traded there)and LAC
Probably. You never know. Rose would be a tough cover. I mean, as things stand there's not a team in the league we wouldn't punk -- but look how that at ude has gone over for teams in the past. 2004 Pistons were invincible. So we're the Lakers when they got Nash and Howard. The Lakers initial 3 peat looked unstoppable until we bashed their skulls in.
I second this motion.
i love where your heads at.
You haven't seen Derek Rose healthy in years. I'll believe he returns to an All NBA talent when I see it. What are they giving Minnesota for Love? Jimmy Butler and Taj Gibson? Good luck with that. Melo makes them interesting, especially if they get him without a S&T, but they are certainly not a team I feel the Spurs need to *preemptively* counter.
What front office makes moves off of other teams' hypothetical moves? Houston is a joke and if they get Melo, they are an even bigger joke. OKC and the LAC are the scariest teams in the west. The East currently does not have a really scary team, though Miami could obviously get there pretty easily.
The Spurs need to keep doing what they've been doing. Keep the guys together and tweak the end of the bench. Hopefully with more younger, upside players.
True...it's a long, hard road to the championship...that's why they're so special.
Love padded stats on a terrible Minny team while playing little to no D. Let's see how he looks on an actual playoff team before calling anyone he joins a favorite for the Finals. Also, who knows what a healthy Rose will look like at this point; could be an All-Star, could be Greg Oden as a PG.
It's official now, Spurs FO had infos and pictures on the Amy / Tim situation the whole time
Nice to know he comes back next season
Some thoughts:
1. If Duncan takes a lower salary, would that REALLY help the Spurs cap situation? I believe the Spurs are pretty under the cap so there is no danger of hitting the luxury tax. If the Spurs re-sign Mills and Diaw, then they probably won't have money for a big free agent anyways. Does it really matter if Duncan saves the Spurs $3-4 million if that money won't be used on a big FA acquisition? I would rather Duncan keep his $10 million salary that he earned.
2. People like to on Kobe for taking a large salary (I used to too) but his reasoning is actually pretty logical. The NBA owners have profited billions of dollars from the backs of NBA talent. Fans spend a lot of money on the NBA and I would rather that money go to NBA players rather than fill the pockets of already billionaires. Kobe says the Buss family has always paid the luxury tax to go after good players and build a championship contender and that he's lucky the family acknowledges his contribution in raking in record profits. Look at the Miami Heat. Lebron brought back to back championships and the money that came along with it. Lebron and co also took a decent pay cut to play on the Heat together. How did Mickey Arison repay Lebron? He responded by cutting salary and trying to save MORE money so he can collect MORE profit, which led to the bench disparity against the Spurs, leaving Lebron to carry the entire scoring load.
People like to point to the salary cap as reason to take lower salaries, but who ins uted the salary cap in the first place? Who kept fighting for a hard salary cap and luxury tax in the previous lockout? The owners did and they did it because they wanted to keep salary costs down and take in more profit. Owners are trying to convince players to take even lower salaries so their team remains compe ive because of a cap the owners put in the first place. It's like your boss putting a salary limit on the entire company and then asking you to take a pay cut so he has money to hire better coworkers for you. To laugh at Kobe for taking money he deserves is ridiculous. Yes, a salary cap protects smaller markets but for a big market like Los Angeles, the owners can afford to pay Kobe the money he deserves.
Apples to Oranges. In this particular case your "co-workers" are as equally important as you are. At least for those who truly care about winning. Comparing it to the regular workforce just doesn't make sense. Tim truly wants to win, Kobe rather get payed. It's pretty simple. It's hard to have both these days and whether that's right or wrong isn't the point.It's like your boss putting a salary limit on the entire company and then asking you to take a pay cut so he has money to hire better coworkers for you.
That's what I thought and this doesn't surprise me. Duncan wants to ensure that Patty and Boris stay. With those two, the Spurs have a shot at repeating. I hope the Spurs can bring over Bertans this year as well. As he could start to play a pivotal role in the Spurs 15-16 season.
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions