Tim Duncan decision coming [UPDATE: Opts in]

[objective]

Lower deal doesn't help with free agents, spurs would have to renounce diaw and the others to get to offer more than the mle.

[will_spurs]

What 8.5M TE?

Nothing, got confused by the wording.

[Baam]

Some thoughts:

1. If Duncan takes a lower salary, would that REALLY help the Spurs cap situation? I believe the Spurs are pretty under the cap so there is no danger of hitting the luxury tax. If the Spurs re-sign Mills and Diaw, then they probably won't have money for a big free agent anyways. Does it really matter if Duncan saves the Spurs $3-4 million if that money won't be used on a big FA acquisition? I would rather Duncan keep his $10 million salary that he earned.

2. People like to on Kobe for taking a large salary (I used to too) but his reasoning is actually pretty logical. The NBA owners have profited billions of dollars from the backs of NBA talent. Fans spend a lot of money on the NBA and I would rather that money go to NBA players rather than fill the pockets of already billionaires. Kobe says the Buss family has always paid the luxury tax to go after good players and build a championship contender and that he's lucky the family acknowledges his contribution in raking in record profits. Look at the Miami Heat. Lebron brought back to back championships and the money that came along with it. Lebron and co also took a decent pay cut to play on the Heat together. How did Mickey Arison repay Lebron? He responded by cutting salary and trying to save MORE money so he can collect MORE profit, which led to the bench disparity against the Spurs, leaving Lebron to carry the entire scoring load.

People like to point to the salary cap as reason to take lower salaries, but who ins uted the salary cap in the first place? Who kept fighting for a hard salary cap and luxury tax in the previous lockout? The owners did and they did it because they wanted to keep salary costs down and take in more profit. Owners are trying to convince players to take even lower salaries so their team remains compe ive because of a cap the owners put in the first place. It's like your boss putting a salary limit on the entire company and then asking you to take a pay cut so he has money to hire better coworkers for you. To laugh at Kobe for taking money he deserves is ridiculous. Yes, a salary cap protects smaller markets but for a big market like Los Angeles, the owners can afford to pay Kobe the money he deserves.

Great post imo, that's why if it's not done to acquire a big time FA there's really no point...

[Mr. Body]

Lower deal would help with next year more than this one, wouldn't it? This year it doesn't seem like it would be a bit help, as FAs would come under the MLE most likely, unless Mills and/or Diaw are gone.

[024]

Apples to Oranges. In this particular case your "co-workers" are as equally important as you are. At least for those who truly care about winning. Comparing it to the regular workforce just doesn't make sense. Tim truly wants to win, Kobe rather get payed. It's pretty simple. It's hard to have both these days and whether that's right or wrong isn't the point.

But you can't blame Kobe for taking the money he rightfully deserves. The owners are the ones forcing players to choose between winning or taking a well earned salary because they imposed the cap in the first place.

In fact, the owners probably look at Duncan, Leborn, Bosh, Wade and secretly smile because everyone bought their bull . The owners have convinced fans and players to associate taking less money with winning. And guess who profits from that?

[Brazil]

Meanwhile Manu will be paid M 7 next year and will play for Argentina NT

[lefty]

I second this motion.

oh yeah
Slomo, the people have spoken

[daslicer]

Duncan is very smart when it comes to his money. Even though he has taken pay cuts throughout his career he has still managed to be in the top 10 in net-worth all-time for NBA players. This goes to show you why Duncan can take pay cuts.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

But you can't blame Kobe for taking the money he rightfully deserves. The owners are the ones forcing players to choose between winning or taking a well earned salary because they imposed the cap in the first place.

In fact, the owners probably look at Duncan, Leborn, Bosh, Wade and secretly smile because everyone bought their bull . The owners have convinced fans and players to associate taking less money with winning. And guess who profits from that?

Don't you know the Players get playoff bonuses as well. They get a big bonus if they make the Finals. Yes, the owners make more, but the Players makeup the difference with the additional monies they receive from nba record bonuses, playoff and advertising revenues they receive.

So taking 1-2 mil less on a team that makes the Finals each year and has a top 3 record would pay would be equivocal to signing with a non-playoff team for 2mil more a season. Plus factor in Texas has no State tax. This goes for players like Patty and Diaw.

Duncan has made over 200 mil over his career. He doesn't care about money at this point.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...-heat-vs-spurs

[TampaDude]

Duncan is very smart when it comes to his money. Even though he has taken pay cuts throughout his career he has still managed to be in the top 10 in net-worth all-time for NBA players. This goes to show you why Duncan can take pay cuts.

That's because Tim Duncan is the exact opposite of the yo boy bling-bling gangsta hustler that so many athletes are nowadays. He's actually kind of a geek, but that's okay...it means he's smart with his $$$ and he'll be set for life when he retires. You won't ever be reading about a bankrupt Tim Duncan in the news.

[UZER]

Second year might not even be real. Just a cover-up so he won't have a farewell tour this coming year.

[weeks]

But you can't blame Kobe for taking the money he rightfully deserves. The owners are the ones forcing players to choose between winning or taking a well earned salary because they imposed the cap in the first place.

In fact, the owners probably look at Duncan, Leborn, Bosh, Wade and secretly smile because everyone bought their bull . The owners have convinced fans and players to associate taking less money with winning. And guess who profits from that?

isn't the point of the cap to keep big market teams from crushing small market teams?

[Baynes]

read somewhere that he will opt out to sign a minimum?

[spurraider21]

read somewhere that he will opt out to sign a minimum?

i doubt it, that would basically be cheating, and i just don't see him signing a deal paying him less than Marco

[superbigtime]

Tim is a sports god.

[.G.]

[DesignatedT]

But you can't blame Kobe for taking the money he rightfully deserves. The owners are the ones forcing players to choose between winning or taking a well earned salary because they imposed the cap in the first place.

In fact, the owners probably look at Duncan, Leborn, Bosh, Wade and secretly smile because everyone bought their bull . The owners have convinced fans and players to associate taking less money with winning. And guess who profits from that?

I don't blame him but he will never win again because of it. That's his choice. I'm not taking the owners side because they make more money than anyone but you won't catch me feeling bad for the players. They make plenty of money as well. I am in favor of leveling the playing field for everyone though and the new CBA does that in some aspects. I would support a hard cap.

[Dex]

#StayTimStay

[Spur|n|Austin]

[-21-]

If he does opt-out and re-sign for another contract, PATFO probably have something up their sleeves. They wouldn't do this if it doesn't help them in any way.

[Diego20]

[DesignatedT]

They wouldn't do this if it doesn't help them in any way.

They would do whatever he asks them to do tbqh.

[Dex]

If he does opt-out and re-sign for another contract, PATFO probably have something up their sleeves. They wouldn't do this if it doesn't help them in any way.

Positioning for enough wiggle room to give Diaw and Mills what they deserve, imo.

[eric365]

Kobe : 201 WS, earned 280M$
Probably proportional to FG%

[Old School 44]

TD should sign like the "Trading Places" bet. Sign for a token "1 dollar".