NBA: West says Pop is the best coach he's ever seen,,,

[ambchang]

When Pop can get a god damn repeat he can be considered greater than Phil. In case you were wondering, Phil had 3 three peats in his career and a repeat. Also, it cracks me up when Spurs fans say but but Phil had MJ, Kobe, Shaq and all Pop had was Tim duncan, parker, ginobli, and Robinson...then on the other end they go on to say Tim Duncan is the greatest player since MJ and easily greater than Shaq and Kobe combined. So which one is it Spurs fans?

Repeats and threepeats are mostly the result of a superior roster, and is mostly associated with huge over-spending and curiously only done by big market teams (with the exception of Detroit). It was also a good turn of fortunes by avoiding costly injuries at the wrong times, which has absolutely nothing to do with coaching most of the time.

As for Duncan, he wasn't greater than Duncan and Kobe combined, he was only greater than both of them. With a h2h of 3-2 against these two, Duncan makes a case.

And lumping Parker and Ginobili in the conversation with Jordan, Pippen and Shaq. I can see Kobe being part of that conversation though.

[DMC]

The Lakers stopped them on their strongest years and manu ed them in one. Who stops them from repeating next year?

The injury bug.

[IrisHockey]

Wasn't there a feud between Mr.Choke and Phil?

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Well u know its very well known that West hates Phil. Many say Phil ran West out of LA, and West even had the audacity at the end of this previous season to say D'antoni over Phil was the right choice.

Sure, we "know" it, but, I'd like to actually know it. I thought perhaps you had the goods.

No offense meant.

[Thebesteva]

Sure, we "know" it, but, I'd like to actually know it. I thought perhaps you had the goods.

No offense meant.

I dont know if im missing an official story, I just heard Phil wanted Jerry out.

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No question he dished it, and it was his way of getting immediate returns. It worked for him in the short term, and it was great that he squeezed three les out of it. >>>>>>He never ultimately solved the problem, which was his short-coming as a coach.<<<<<<

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

[DMC]

Sure, we "know" it, but, I'd like to actually know it. I thought perhaps you had the goods.

No offense meant.

You mean like the Diaw affair you kept harping about last week? I still haven't seen a single source on that, nary an article.

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You mean like the Diaw affair you kept harping about last week? I still haven't seen a single source on that, nary an article.

You mean the one where people were advocating him for Finals MVP? I heard it time & again from the local feeds here to national Cowherd. Why would I lie about that?

[Ghazi]

Whats impressive about Pop is he has adapted.

[Malik Hairston]

^^yep, it's easily the most impressive aspect of his career..

Pop was always a great coach by NBA standards for most of his career, but he wasn't anything special until he had to adapt, tbh..the Spurs had a well-built system around Duncan(and Robinson for a bit) until 2005, where they began to implement more offense for Ginobili and Parker, but it wasn't anything innovative or unique..it actually took moves from D'Antoni and Don Nelson for Pop to counter-adjust and think outside the box IMO..

The Spurs from 2008 until 2010 ran the same, failed style of play that didn't work due to aging and lesser talent..Pop still used aging, unathletic role players to surround the big 3, which obviously didn't work..

Pop adapted his coaching style to a unique and innovative approach that grew from 2011 until the present..he completely changed the style of the Spurs, along with implementing techniques from the International game..it's a credit to Duncan, too, who adapted his game, as well..

Phil Jackson's coaching style is extremely antiquated and wouldn't work in today's league, tbh..neither would Pop's old style, but he adapted and grew, which is rare among stubborn, NBA coaches that rarely grow and adapt..

[spurraider21]

but he adapted and grew, which is rare among stubborn, NBA coaches that rarely grow and adapt..

redundancy is redundant ... but all in all i agree with that post. pop's "system" in 2003 was the least imaginative i had ever seen, at least offensively

[ambchang]

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

? What was the trend?

[DMC]

You mean the one where people were advocating him for Finals MVP? I heard it time & again from the local feeds here to national Cowherd. Why would I lie about that?

No, the one where you said he was acquired under su ious cir stances.

[DMC]

^^yep, it's easily the most impressive aspect of his career..

Pop was always a great coach by NBA standards for most of his career, but he wasn't anything special until he had to adapt, tbh..the Spurs had a well-built system around Duncan(and Robinson for a bit) until 2005, where they began to implement more offense for Ginobili and Parker, but it wasn't anything innovative or unique..it actually took moves from D'Antoni and Don Nelson for Pop to counter-adjust and think outside the box IMO..

The Spurs from 2008 until 2010 ran the same, failed style of play that didn't work due to aging and lesser talent..Pop still used aging, unathletic role players to surround the big 3, which obviously didn't work..

Pop adapted his coaching style to a unique and innovative approach that grew from 2011 until the present..he completely changed the style of the Spurs, along with implementing techniques from the International game..it's a credit to Duncan, too, who adapted his game, as well..

Phil Jackson's coaching style is extremely antiquated and wouldn't work in today's league, tbh..neither would Pop's old style, but he adapted and grew, which is rare among stubborn, NBA coaches that rarely grow and adapt..

What took Pop so long to adjust is that he was getting good regular season results that most other teams would love to get. It took Memphis, Phoenix and OKC to convince Pop that he had to move the ball and not take everything through Tony, Tim and Manu. He didn't need the SSOL per se, but he did need to be able to score when it was available in that same time frame, before the defense gets established. Tim's regressing role allowed other players to step up.

It's probably one of the rarest things in all of sports, that an aging core can be successful time and again by retooling the role guys. I think the Spurs were able to bridge those gaps by having regular season success, where coaches weren't fired and players weren't put on the block wholesale. Quite amazing actually.

Truth be told though, I'm pretty sure no one saw Kawhi coming, not even Pop. Defense, sure, but never thought he'd break out like that in the biggest series of his young life.