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    lol @ claiming Bogdanovic has a better shot than Kobe Bryant.
    Kirby's shooting % the last 3 years has been: 43%, 46%, and 42%. His 3 pt shooting has been: 30%, 32%, and 19%. So yeah, he could easily have a better shot than Kirby.

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    I don't think there's a huge market for him at much above minimum.
    I hope you're right, but I disagree.

    I think he will be priced out of the spurs range. The pacers signed mahinmi to a 4/16 deal after he basically had the same role as Baynes, a 3rd string big who occasionally had to play a little more. Baynes is more like mahinmi's first year in Dallas, where he basically filled the same role on a le team.

    I don't think he'll get that much, but I look at Philadelphia, and I see a team that needs bodies, will have over 20 million in cap space, and whose coach worked with Baynes in the NBA and internationally. So I could see Philadelphia signing Baynes to 3/9 offer sheet and the spurs declining. And I think they would be getting a decent l decent value.

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    PTR mentioned the idea of the Spurs trading out of the 1st round (to a team that has multiple 2nd rounders) They also mentioned the idea that if they liked a player they could invite them to camp with the opportunity to make the team.

    The mentioned Phily (as an example) moving the 30th pick for the 39th and 47th pick to go along with the 58th and 60th picks.

    In parenthesis are where they are projected to be drafted by nbadraft.net and the second is from draft express.

    all of the following players have been mentioned in various mocks as a potential first round pick by the Spurs.

    The Bucks also have multiple 2nd rounders : the 31st ,36th and 48th picks

    Walter Taveres (7'3 Center, 7'9 arm span), (40th, 31st)

    Damien Inglish [6'9 with a 7'3 wingspan, 21 Year old combo forward from France ](38th 36th)

    Vasilje Micic (6'6 PG great passer) (34th, 39th)

    Bogdon Bogdanovic (SG 6'6 22 years old) (30th, 35th)

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    lol @ claiming Bogdanovic has a better shot than Kobe Bryant.
    that's really not saying much tbh

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    He is SF, but could probably also be a stretch 4 in small ball lineup.
    He is actually compared to Daye and Korver (I assume thats worst case to best case scenario) the draft net page is 3 years old but was only listed at 211 pounds but 6'11.

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    Knicks interested in moving into the 1st round by moving Iman Shumpert for a late 1st rounder.

    not a great shooter but gives us a legit backup SF that can defend a bit

    "Hearing: Knicks have explored possibility of swapping Iman Shumpert for late first-round pick heading into Thursday's draft"

    Marc Stein

    The Thunder (21st and 29th) and Clippers (28th) would also probably be interested with picks ahead of us.

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    I don't like Shumpert at all. I think he's all NY hype. His career PER is 10.5, well below the NBA average of 15.0.

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    I don't like Shumpert at all. I think he's all NY hype. His career PER is 10.5, well below the NBA average of 15.0.
    Didn't realize he is owed $2.7 million next year, not awful and about the price we'd pay for a SF if we don't use the vet min. Not a great shooter (only 34% from 3) but is young and has the tools to be a good defender but isn't quite there yet. Its NY every player is either overrated or a bum.

    I'd be interested to see how he'd perform in our system as a 3 and D (assuming he can be a more consistent shooter) without Melo and Smith stopping ball and jacking up shots to their hearts content.

    I could see the Spurs doing a deal like this one. Especially if they don't think any of the players in the 30th pick range are worthwhile.

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    I don't like Shumpert at all. I think he's all NY hype. His career PER is 10.5, well below the NBA average of 15.0.
    Your idea of signing Sefolosha would be better than giving up a pick for Shump.

    We should use our picks to stash guys in Europe who will come over for 2015-16.

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    Your idea of signing Sefolosha would be better than giving up a pick for Shump.

    We should use our picks to stash guys in Europe who will come over for 2015-16.
    I'm actually down with Aminu, too. He's younger, and would likely cost more, but if Chip thinks his shot can be fixed, he could be a long term option. He played two years at Wake, and four so far in the NBA, and is still just 23.

    I just think there are too many options that will NOT cost us a draft pick to give one up.

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    I'm actually down with Aminu, too. He's younger, and would likely cost more, but if Chip thinks his shot can be fixed, he could be a long term option. He played two years at Wake, and four so far in the NBA, and is still just 23.

    I just think there are too many options that will NOT cost us a draft pick to give one up.
    Yes indeed. And I like the Aminu call too - he or Sefolosha would be great, or if we want a big I think McBob would fit perfectly (although I don't think we can afford him - may as well keep Bonner for the minimum if he'll stay).

    BTW, great to see you here! I don't frequent ST nearly as much as I used to because of all the cliff jumping and s, but I'll be here over the summer to check out quality takes from people like yourself. I hope everything is well in your world... just wished I had come over for the Finals this year! Did you go to the Finals games?

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    Your idea of signing Sefolosha would be better than giving up a pick for Shump.

    We should use our picks to stash guys in Europe who will come over for 2015-16.
    Not 2015-16, but Dario Saric signed a three year deal (3rd year player option) to play in Turkey.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2014/sto...l-turkish-team

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    Can you guys give me a description, upsides for Aminu. I don't watch other teams much only the Spurs and marquee match-ups.

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    Not 2015-16, but Dario Saric signed a three year deal (3rd year player option) to play in Turkey.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2014/sto...l-turkish-team
    I think that actually may cause teams that were thinking of dumping picks to stash him instead. Phoenix and Chicago come to mind.

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    Can you guys give me a description, upsides for Aminu. I don't watch other teams much only the Spurs and marquee match-ups.
    Tall three, bordering on a four, 6'8.5". Long, wingspan of like 7'3". Excellent rebounder and good defender. Needs work on his 3 ball. He didn't have his year 4 option picked up, but NO eventually signed him for what his qualifying offer would have been, and he is now unrestricted. Two years of college at Wake, and four years of NBA experience and he's 23.

    One of my favorite things is that he's missed like 9 games in 4 years.

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    I think that actually may cause teams that were thinking of dumping picks to stash him instead. Phoenix and Chicago come to mind.
    Good point. I can see either team doing that since they have multiple picks.

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    Tall three, bordering on a four, 6'8.5". Long, wingspan of like 7'3". Excellent rebounder and good defender. Needs work on his 3 ball. He didn't have his year 4 option picked up, but NO eventually signed him for what his qualifying offer would have been, and he is now unrestricted. Two years of college at Wake, and four years of NBA experience and he's 23.
    Nice thanks. How much do you think can we get him for?

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    Nice thanks. How much do you think can we get him for?
    I don't know. A lot depends on what happens with the top FAs and how much money teams have left after stupidly throwing large quan ies at slightly above average players. What will the market be after the dust settles?

    He made $3.7M last year.

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    I don't know. A lot depends on what happens with the top FAs and how much money teams have left after stupidly throwing large quan ies at slightly above average players. What will the market be after the dust settles?

    He made $3.7M last year.
    Right. I think it depends on what will we do to players we don't use and to Diaw and Millls especially now that Mills is injured.

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    He is actually compared to Daye and Korver (I assume thats worst case to best case scenario) the draft net page is 3 years old but was only listed at 211 pounds but 6'11.
    When he still played for Olimpija, my hometown club, he was really skinny, then he started gaining weight and had problems with knees because of it. Then he left for Partizan and I believe he bulked up a little there.

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    Not 2015-16, but Dario Saric signed a three year deal (3rd year player option) to play in Turkey.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2014/sto...l-turkish-team
    Yeah, I read that. Interesting decision.

    When he still played for Olimpija, my hometown club, he was really skinny, then he started gaining weight and had problems with knees because of it. Then he left for Partizan and I believe he bulked up a little there.
    I guess he wants to be a bit bigger and better before he plays with the big boys.

    I think that actually may cause teams that were thinking of dumping picks to stash him instead. Phoenix and Chicago come to mind.
    Yeah, sounds about right. Pity, because he'd be a perfect stash for us, but I can't see how we'd trade up to get him.

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    I bet, OKC is taking Inglis just to bother us, but it was all CIA-Pop, wanting Thanasis Antetokounmpo, Ojars Silins or Alessandro Gentile from the beginning.

    Either way: I'd think we take one of the four.

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    Not 2015-16, but Dario Saric signed a three year deal (3rd year player option) to play in Turkey.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2014/sto...l-turkish-team
    I`d still take him with 30th pick

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    Everyone knew Saric would stay in Europe for at least 1 more year. He won't fall to 30. The guy is the most ready for NBA compe ion out of all the players.

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    I`d still take him with 30th pick
    You'd never get the chance.

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