Heat: From a technical standpoint...what the exactly happened during the finals?

[100%duncan]

Cramps don't linger, but the results of dehydration and the treatment of it can linger for days. The soreness from severe cramps can linger for days. What caused the cramps can still be a factor days later, HGH or whatever.

These are professional athletes accompanied by professional doctors and trainers, I'm pretty sure they were all over the Heat's only hope to beat the Spurs after game 1.

[100%duncan]

He ended up just like Kobe:::shinin' in' shoes in last place.

And Duncan is above watching them as he shows up his hand for that shiny ring.

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And Duncan is above watching them as he shows up his hand for that shiny ring.

You make the playoffs, you win the last you play. He's en led.

[KaiRMD1]

I was just about to say this

2004 Finals

Game 1: Pistons blitz the Lakers
Game 2: Lakers steal the game in OT "It's Over !!!"
Game 3-5: Pistons win by 20, 10 & 13

Spurs are the reverse Pistons. Lose in 7, next year destroy the super team in 5

[DMC]

These are professional athletes accompanied by professional doctors and trainers, I'm pretty sure they were all over the Heat's only hope to beat the Spurs after game 1.

Sure, but then so were Elvis' people all over him... as he lay dead and bloated after delivering a Cosby kid to the pool.

Funny chart about HGH though

Check with your doctor	May not need medical attention
More common	Fever Chills Shivering General feeling of discomfort Depression Cough or cough with mucus Runny nose Sore throat Wheezing Hoarse or husky voice Shortness of breath Back pain Trouble sleeping Difficulty breathing Weight gain Ear congestion Dry skin or hair Hair loss Increased hunger Constipation Diarrhea Loss of appe e Difficulty moving Pain in the joints	Altered heartbeat Severe headaches Heart enlargement Ear infections or ear problems Dizziness Nervousness Nervousness Pounding in the ears Itching, numbness, tingling, burning or crawling sensations throughout the body Blurred vision Altered touch sensations Premature death Low blood sugar

Premature death may not need medical attention. FYI

[100%duncan]

Sure, but then so were Elvis' people all over him... as he lay dead and bloated after delivering a Cosby kid to the pool.

Funny chart about HGH though

Check with your doctor	May not need medical attention
More common	Fever Chills Shivering General feeling of discomfort Depression Cough or cough with mucus Runny nose Sore throat Wheezing Hoarse or husky voice Shortness of breath Back pain Trouble sleeping Difficulty breathing Weight gain Ear congestion Dry skin or hair Hair loss Increased hunger Constipation Diarrhea Loss of appe e Difficulty moving Pain in the joints	Altered heartbeat Severe headaches Heart enlargement Ear infections or ear problems Dizziness Nervousness Nervousness Pounding in the ears Itching, numbness, tingling, burning or crawling sensations throughout the body Blurred vision Altered touch sensations Premature death Low blood sugar

Premature death may not need medical attention. FYI

[Franklin]

besides the cramp Lebron also had diarrhea don't forget this, both were caused by overdose of PED though.

[eric365]

Diaw starting
Lebron defending more on Parker => Kawhi get confidence early in the games
Patty and Kawhi getting hot

[KaiRMD1]

I think this video describes Miami's mindset after plowing through the eastern conference, going into the finals.

[TampaDude]

I think this video describes Miami's mindset after plowing through the eastern conference, going into the finals.

[ElNono]

Spurs took it to...

[IrisHockey]

Well I looked at game 5 again and yes...Popovich had them figured out all along. It was the matter of if the players were going to perform for them.

In game 5, the Spurs mocked the Heat. Patty Mills imitating their flopping antics and dismantling them with a three point barrage you'd expect from Ray Allen or mike miller. Then you had Kawhi Leonard exposing LeBron's defense, Splitter's block on Wade, and Ginobili's dunk on Bosh.


Boris Diaw ~ the invisible man. Emmanuel Giniobili. The redemption.

Game 2

A cliche victory to say the least. Everyone played decently well with the Spurs but GAME 2...was the LeBron show. LeBron and half the corpse of Rashard Lewis lead that team to victory. Look at the box score.

Game 3

EVERYONE THAT WAS A HEAT FAN WAS GUARANTEEING VICTORY THIS GAME. They were all up their own asses. Then....DJ Khaled. ESPN...especially guaranteeing victory. The Heat had the false confidence of not losing home games all playoffs. They had another false confidence for not losing back to back games in whatever time frame (i don't care to look it up)

and that was for Game 4.

Yet Again....the Heat fan slogan "We got this; Three peat". Getting their asses handed to them in back to back games on their home court. Their fans booing them. Then every commentator believing they could make their cliche comeback with the Seven Nation Army Chant. The got it down to what? 4? I think. Then got blown out some more. Duncan and Kawhi on the offensive boards for both games. Their fans completely giving up on them leaving the game early not considering that this is the last time they see their team in action in the season.

But at least the real Heat fans stayed.


I've watched all series in the past years and in the Heat aren't not that great of a team. If there were statistics about how much times LeBron James is mentioned nationally, you'd realize you've been brainwashed. The Twitter mentions are enough of a stat. What context is he mentioned? What context are the Heat being mentioned.

Principles in Marketing and Psychology 101.

The East is a mental enigma of "don't worry be happy" players who don't want to win. They just want to groupie s with booty shots and lives of unsatisfactory and insecurity of how much material things they own but I don't blame them. lol

There are a few winners there but there all on the wrong teams. When it comes to the opponent, it was all mental. No one was as mentally prepared for the Heat as the Spurs.

The Heat were a decent team full of great players who hit big shots that were most of the time terrible shots to take. They hit those shots though. They had a great amount of will but there's more to be disgusted about with them then to love.

Shut up

[Malik Hairston]

Shut up

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[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Shut up

salty got

"but the Spurs won't beat the Mavs "

curb stomped them ers... was nothin

[IrisHockey]

I didn't say that, I said the Mavs would take it to 7 games when everyone thought it was going to be a sweep, Frizzy bear.

[xellos88330]

I'm still trying to figure out exactly what just happened during these finals, they are the most fascinating finals from a pure basketball standpoint. In game 1, it looked like the spurs were in trouble, trailing by 7 in the 4th the Heat just looked like the more comfortable and confident bunch. Suddenly, the AC goes out and Lebron chokes per par and Spurs have to work very hard to get the W.

In game 2, the Heat picked up where they left off and made it compe ive till the end and with Bosh's 3 point dagger, they stole game 2 but looked like the much better team at this point.

Then in game 3, 4, & 5 they got the living kicked out of them and looked like an abysmal team. I've never seen such an odd series in my life, what the exactly happened? Did Pop figure something out? Did Wade's knees finally give in? A little bit of everything? It just doesnt make sense how a team looked so solid for 2 games and then completely fizzed out like that.

I give a lot of credit to the Thunder. The Spurs faced a young, super athletic, hyper aggressive defense in the WCF. That series gave the Spurs the key to beating the Heat and their hyper aggressive defense. There were 2 main differences between the Thunder defense and the Heat defense. The Thunder were much faster in recovering after rotations, and they had an elite shot blocker at the rim. The Spurs figured out how to smash it by spreading the floor with Diaw and Bonner pulling Ibaka away from the paint. Ibaka has the physical abilities to recover well, but the speed of the Spurs ball movement left little to no time to react once you make your commitment. For the Heat, Anderson was supposed to be the shot blocker, but he just couldn't recover quickly enough to make a huge defensive impact at the rim after being spread and moved around so much. The Thunder prepared the Spurs for the Finals. Once the Spurs inserted Diaw into the starting 5, the Heat defense crumbled just like the Thunder.

[21209]

Heat role players were awful.

Chris Bosh was a non-factor offensively after the first two games, Dwyane Wade looked like a player who should have been collecting social security and the Spurs ball movement was so effective they were able to get any high percentage shot they wanted.

[testies]

Spurs figured out the Heat over aggressive/trapping defense that blunders all the time.. most overrated D ever.. They get raped everytime a team moves the ball ie Dallas and us. Lucky as fk for game 6 and got to play most stagnant offense in history of finals in OKC, playing right into their trapping D

[J.T.]

Three main things have defeated this Spurs team in the last few years since they switched to this pick-and-roll spamming pass happy offense.

(1) Putting a large, athletic defender on Parker (Sefolosha, LeBron).
(2) Opposing defenses switching every pick-and-roll.
(3) Opposing defenses trapping on pick-and-rolls.

All three of those were why OKC backdoor swept us in 2012. The Heat used more of 1 & 2 in 2013, and were very successful with it following Parker's injury in the middle of the 2013 Finals. I think that Pop this as one weakness in a system that is otherwise substantially successful, and, because of the way he coaches, was able to get his players to buy into passing the ball more and trusting their teammates. This took some of the playmaking burden off of the ball handlers and allowed set plays to develop into shots for players the play was never even supposed to be run for due to getting a wide open shot on a collapsed defender. I feel like the 2013 Spurs tried way too hard to create open shots by running defenders through endless amounts of picks. They ran much more smoother and efficient in 2014.

Diaw was a big part of that because the way he plays is so deceiving. He goes to the hoop to suck in the defense and kick out, and so many people fall for it. Diaw realized this and began trolling teams by actually scoring sometimes. The Thunder particularly ate it hard defending him in Game 6. It's great for the Spurs too, because I'm sure some teams will play aggressive D on Boris at times next season which will only free up an open shooter.

On Miami's side, LeBron and the Super Friends really did just seem fatigued from 4 straight Finals runs. Wade played like he was 40. So did Battier and Allen. Chalmers was replaced by somebody from the stands. The rest of their bench was Norris Cole and Birdman. Chris Bosh did okay in most games but there clearly was no help for LeBron and he ran out of gas after the 1st quarter of Game 5.

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On Miami's side, LeBron and the Super Friends really did just seem fatigued from 4 straight Finals runs. Wade played like he was 40. So did Battier and Allen. Chalmers was replaced by somebody from the stands. The rest of their bench was Norris Cole and Birdman. Chris Bosh did okay in most games but there clearly was no help for LeBron and he ran out of gas after the 1st quarter of Game 5.

You're much too kind, sweetheart.

James is light, and here, we're gonna delve into that fact, repeatedly & at length. Now,

Let us proceed...

[J.T.]

You're much too kind, sweetheart.

James is light, and here, we're gonna delve into that fact, repeatedly & at length. Now,

Let us proceed...

There's definitely an argument to be made that LeBron saw the writing on the wall and mailed it in to send a message. I wouldn't put a selfish thing like that past him. But he would have had to have averaged a 40ppg quadruple-double in every game to win that Finals the way the rest of the Heat played. Maybe the Spurs really did just figure out how to play perfect, unbeatable basketball. I don't work in pro sports so what do I know? I think that the Spurs played extremely well and were fortunate that basically the entire Heat team quit after Belinelli banged in that 3 to kill their comeback in Game 3.

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There's definitely an argument to be made that LeBron saw the writing on the wall and mailed it in to send a message. I wouldn't put a selfish thing like that past him. But he would have had to have averaged a 40ppg quadruple-double in every game to win that Finals the way the rest of the Heat played. Maybe the Spurs really did just figure out how to play perfect, unbeatable basketball. I don't work in pro sports so what do I know? I think that the Spurs played extremely well and were fortunate that basically the entire Heat team quit after Belinelli banged in that 3 to kill their comeback in Game 3.

I'm too old to chase you around if you're gonna go off in 3 different directions. You/we don't have to make excuses for James. We didn't last June when Duncan screwed the pooch & we don't this June when James nailed it.

[J.T.]

I'm too old to chase you around if you're gonna go off in 3 different directions. You/we don't have to make excuses for James. We didn't last June when Duncan screwed the pooch & we don't this June when James nailed it.

I'm a little scatter-brained at the moment. Yesterday was my birthday, and I'm still drunk. I'll get some sleep and we can talk about this under better cir stances for me

[TampaDude]

I'm too old to chase you around if you're gonna go off in 3 different directions. You/we don't have to make excuses for James. We didn't last June when Duncan screwed the pooch & we don't this June when James nailed it.

The difference being that James was the only one who showed up in 2014 and Duncan was the only one who didn't show up in 6 because Pop had nailed him to the bench at the end.

[DMC]

I'm a little scatter-brained at the moment. Yesterday was my birthday, and I'm still drunk. I'll get some sleep and we can talk about this under better cir stances for me

Dale just like to count rings. He's not interested in the whys.