Mavs: Chandler, Felton to the mavs for Calderon, dalembert and larkin

[Phillip]

The Mavs are giving up two of their starters, their highest draft pick in a while and at least one second-rounder. They're doing all that while taking back Felton's salary so that they can take back a player the Knicks will be looking to dump in two weeks. What sense does that make? The only things Dallas didn't give up were Ellis instead of Calderon and their first next year (which they can trade starting tomorrow, before anyone tries to say they can't).

Dallas had all the leverage in this deal. They didn't need Chandler. The center trade market is going to be surprisingly strong this off-season. New York, in fact, is likely to get one of those centers, which is why they're looking to trade Chandler right now (in addition to their half-hearted attempt to get a better roster together before the first of July). Tyson is still a good player, but his stock is not very high right now. Have we even heard about any other team wanting him? The Mavs could have waited on this deal for a while, since Chandler's price was only going to decline next month. They weren't in danger of losing cap space by waiting, since they're not using it to complete this deal. In fact, they lose space by doing it now.

Dallas should have offered to take Chandler off the Knicks' hands using their cap space or even doing to the Calderon/Felton swap. But if they went the PG route, they should have tried to get an asset out of New York, or at least not given up a few themselves.

This is as bad as the Bargnani trade from a leverage standpoint, although it's obviously better from a personnel/value standpoint. Dallas can certainly recover by signing a PG like Lowery and picking up a small-forward like Ariza with their cap space. But they still messed up this part of the off-season.

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

Do yourself a favor and fist yourself with a pair of toy hulk hands.

[baseline bum]

Wow, if Nowitzki takes $10 million they could land Anthony or James with the other $18 million. I still think James stays in Miami, but how would they not be the favorites to land Anthony right now?

[Killakobe81]

Lol truth hurts ...Cuban just man enough to finally admit it

[IrisHockey]

Lol truth hurts ...Cuban just man enough to finally admit it

Hey bro, someone thinks you're trolling with the "should have kept Tyson" stuff.

[Baam]

They better pray that Chandler can still pull his weight cause to me Hibbert ended his career last year... why didn't Cuban trade for Hibbert instead...

[Hoops Czar]

My dream of Splitter for chandler just went up in smoke.

[Chinook]

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

Do yourself a favor and fist yourself with a pair of toy hulk hands.

Anything you actually can disagree with, or are you just feeling the acting like your avatar?

[IrisHockey]

Knicks fans on RealGM are actually naive enough to trust Phil.

'No clear fit/reason'

You have no idea what Phils plans are.. Calderon is easily tradeable if we need to move him for cap space.

Just trust Phil blindly, even for just a little while, let the Zen Master do his thing.

[spurraider21]

people hating on Dallas are weird. they're easily a top 3 contender for the 2011 le

and at trusting P-Jax with teambuilding

[IrisHockey]

Going to Dallas:
Tyson Chandler: $14,596,888
Raymond Felton: $3,793,693 (player option for $3,950,313 in 2015-16)
Total for 2013-14: $18,390,581

Going to New York:
Jose Calderon: $7,097,191 (guaranteed salaries of $7,402,812 and $7,708,427 next two seasons)
Samuel Dalembert: $3,867,282 (partially guaranteed)
Shane Larkin: $1,606,080 (team options of $1,675,320 and $2,576,642 next two seasons)
Wayne Ellington: $2,771,340
Total for 2013-14: $15,341,893


With the cap projected to be $63.2 million, the Mavs have approximately $26.5 million available.

[IrisHockey]

Hopefully they didn't agree to a side deal that would swap Ellis for JR Smith.

[DPG21920]

Anything you actually can disagree with, or are you just feeling the acting like your avatar?

I have to agree with him on this. None of what you said makes a lot of sense to me on this one.

[DPG21920]

Going to Dallas:
Tyson Chandler: $14,596,888
Raymond Felton: $3,793,693 (player option for $3,950,313 in 2015-16)
Total for 2013-14: $18,390,581

Going to New York:
Jose Calderon: $7,097,191 (guaranteed salaries of $7,402,812 and $7,708,427 next two seasons)
Samuel Dalembert: $3,867,282 (partially guaranteed)
Shane Larkin: $1,606,080 (team options of $1,675,320 and $2,576,642 next two seasons)
Wayne Ellington: $2,771,340
Total for 2013-14: $15,341,893


With the cap projected to be $63.2 million, the Mavs have approximately $26.5 million available.

Cap is projected to be 66M IIRC and the Mavs would actually have close to 33M.

[Ghazi]

This is a great trade. Mavs were in the 20s in defensive efficiency and Chandler if healthy will help that. Calderons decense was flammable, although his efficiency will be missed. To me though the Mavs need more otherwise are still a 7-8 seed.

[Malik Hairston]

I don't have an opinion on the actual trade, too many variables, tbh..

- Felton's current state is one of the worst players I've ever seen on an NBA court..he's obese, can't move, can't shoot and can't pass..he's completely useless, and as history has shown us, once a fat PG begins his decline, it's an ugly slide..

- No idea how much Chandler has left in the tank, I don't think anybody really knows..I think we're back to questioning his health, though..he's obviously still a huge upgrade over Dalembert, if healthy..

- The Mavs would be better off signing 2 really good players, rather than signing a superstar IMO..Carlisle is a good enough coach to win with really good system players, and Dirk is still a really good offensive 1st option..his defense is beyond awful at this point, so I'd focus on signing 2-way players to mask him..

I love Lowry, but I worry about him being a fat PG, knowing their history after receiving big contracts..however, unless Ellis learns to play PG in the Summer, which is unlikely, they need a PG, they can't start Felton or Harris..

Something like Ariza and Lowry would be a huge addition and put them at least on the same level as the Clippers IMO ..

[DPG21920]

I think Harris would end up starting over Felton most likely. I would hope he does anyways. The defense would be pretty solid and long with that lineup. And hopefully they can get Marion to stay as well for the MLE or something.

They won't be able to use the MLE this year. They have cap space and can't use the MLE and cap space.

[DPG21920]

I don't have an opinion on the actual trade, too many variables, tbh..

- Felton's current state is one of the worst players I've ever seen on an NBA court..he's obese, can't move, can't shoot and can't pass..he's completely useless, and as history has shown us, once a fat PG begins his decline, it's an ugly slide..

- No idea how much Chandler has left in the tank, I don't think anybody really knows..I think we're back to questioning his health, though..he's obviously still a huge upgrade over Dalembert, if healthy..

- The Mavs would be better off signing 2 really good players, rather than signing a superstar IMO..Carlisle is a good enough coach to win with really good system players, and Dirk is still a really good offensive 1st option..his defense is beyond awful at this point, so I'd focus on signing 2-way players to mask him..

I love Lowry, but I worry about him being a fat PG, knowing their history after receiving big contracts..however, unless Ellis learns to play PG in the Summer, which is unlikely, they need a PG, they can't start Felton or Harris..

Something like Ariza and Lowry would be a huge addition and put them at least on the same level as the Clippers IMO ..

Agree with this. Melo is almost overkill, but still a decent fit with a good coach and Dirk/Tyson (assuming he can stay healthy). But an Ariza/Deng type with a good PG would be very nice.

[Thread]

Not too for late for Chandler, but, where the tragedy rests is in the 3 years of decay that Dirk has undergone.

Difficult to defend a ring that is 3 years old.

[baseline bum]

Cap is projected to be 66M IIRC and the Mavs would actually have close to 33M.

$66.5M is the projected cap for 2015-16.

[IrisHockey]

Gotta be a good shooter at the PG position too. So Mo WIlliams is probably the best bet

[baseline bum]

Not too for late for Chandler, but, where the tragedy rests is in the 3 years of decay that Dirk has undergone.

Difficult to defend a ring that is 3 years old.

I have seen many a Laker fan try to defend a 65 year old Minneosta honkeyball championship here

[m>s]

my inside sources tell me that following this trade both lebron and lowry will be signing with dallas

[IrisHockey]

Not too for late for Chandler, but, where the tragedy rests is in the 3 years of decay that Dirk has undergone.

Difficult to defend a ring that is 3 years old.

We wouldn't have defended that le in 2012 with Chandler anyway.. Kidd and Terry were on their last legs in 2011, and thankfully they got it done.

[Thread]

I have seen many a Laker fan try to defend a 65 year old Minneosta honkeyball championship here

What's that got to do with Chandler coming home 3 years after the fact?

[Thread]

my inside sources tell me that following this trade both lebron and lowry will be signing with dallas

Well, if it'll keep The Bag in Texas count me in.