Is that one of those handheld CO detectors for microbes? Sorta looks like it?
Looks like it has a light source though so maybe airborne particles?
No, it is a radiation monitor:
http://www.hightechsource.co.uk/Reso...-%20UK-RoW.pdf
However, it is an X-Ray monitor, and I wonder how accurate it is for detecting other radiation types. I haven't found that yet. My instinct tells me is will be inaccurate for the types of radiation she was testing.
Last edited by Wild Cobra; 05-24-2014 at 09:41 PM.
Looks like the same device as the picture.
The only Geiger counters I ever used were heavy and clunky and used for fairly high levels of gamma. But you could adjust for various levels. Used for I-131. But that was a while back in school. Had to get checked every month.
X rays... You don't get that in nuclear decay.
No Sherlock. You said it looks like a CO detector. I found the make and model of the one in Boutons post 140 linked article.
How large were your cell phones compared to today?
Wait... did cell phones exist?
Modernization and miniaturization is great, isn't it!
No Sherlock.
Who ever did that story did a huge justice to the girl.
Again, I wonder how accurate it is for nuclear decay.
I said heavy as in mass dumb fck, not large as in volume. The Geiger counter I used was not much LARGER than the pictured.
Did a huge justice for the girl? What?
So what does it measure? You found the item, what does it measure?
Read it AGAIN.
Last edited by pgardn; 05-24-2014 at 11:24 PM.
You said "heavy and clunky."
Ooops...
I meant to say injustice.
OK, one listing and the link say two different thing.
Damn I hate having to double check everything, due to the misinformation on the internet. I failed to do enough checks. The link I found the device in said it was for X-rays.
Still, you said it looked like a CO detector.
It checks:
Alpha / Beta / Gamma
Automatic direct translation
to Bq/cm2 for Cs-137,
Am-241, C-14, Cl-36,
Pb-210 (wet and dry),
Ra-226 (wet and dry),
Sr-90, Co-60, P-32,
Pu-239, U-238.
Yes because they were/are made with a good deal of metal.
And it does. There are hand held models.
I could not tell what it was from the picture. Both of the devices I mentioned look somewhat like the picture. Look them up as well. I had no idea what it was.
A poster invited guesses. So I guessed.
So are you the hand held monitor for guessing?
Its almost like you are drinking while posting... A few mistakes, everyone does that. But you are habitually falling in the well.
Last edited by pgardn; 05-25-2014 at 07:18 AM.
SNAFUkushima: Updating Meltdowns, Still FUBAR and Deteriorating
here’s not much new to say about Fukushima. It remains an out of control disaster with as yet unmeasurable dimensions that continue to expand. Or perhaps it’s more accurate to say that everything new about Fukushima is just the same-old same-old getting worse at an uneven and unpredictable rate. Either way, it’s not good and, while it’s worse in degree, it’s not yet apparently worse in kind, so that’s one reason you don’t hear that much about it in the news these days.Whatever the full truth is about Fukushima, it’s probably unknowable at present. And it might remain unknowable even if there were total transparency, even if there were no corporate, ins utional, governmental, and other layers of secrecy protecting such enemies of the common good as profit, capital investment, and weapons development.
Here are some other elements of SNAFUkushima that might stir up anxieties of residents and non-residents alike:
RADIOACTIVE WATER is beyond control and unmeasured
RADIOACTIVE WATER DUMPING began at Fukushima on May 21
THE UNIT 4 SPENT FUEL POOL still has disaster potential
RADIOACTIVE CONTAMINATION spreads, but threat level is uncertain
Fukushima Prefecture has launched the Come Home campaign.… Air contamination decreased a little, but soil contamination remains the same. And there are still about two million people living in the prefecture, who have all sorts of medical issues. The authorities claim this has nothing to do with the fallout….
I remember feeling so deeply for the victims of the Chernobyl tragedy that I could barely hold back the tears whenever I heard any reports on it. And now that a similar tragedy happened in Fukushima, the biggest problem is that there is no one to help us. They say it’s safe to go back … while in reality the radiation is still there. This is killing children. They die of heart conditions, asthma, leukemia, thyroiditis.… Lots of kids are extremely exhausted after school; others are simply unable to attend PE classes. But the authorities still hide the truth from us, and I don’t know why. Don’t they have children of their own?
Idogawa described his own symptoms, consistent with radiation poisoning, symptoms that persist even though he’s moved to another prefecture. He says he’s not getting treatment now and there’s no place to go for help: “The nearest hospital refused to treat me. So I’m trying to restore my health through nutrition.”
The Japanese government allowed Fukushima residents to start returning to their homes as of April 1, saying that it was safe. It was not safe. The government lied. On April 16, Asahi Shimbun reported some of the government’s lies that put people at risk.
“The same thing happened with Hiroshima and Nagasaki,” Idogawa said: “The authorities lied to everyone. They said it was safe. They hid the truth…. Japan has some dark history.” And so does the rest of the world.
http://readersupportednews.org/opini...-deteriorating
Hey Boutons...
I have an avatar for you:
Fukushima Disaster Still A Global Nightmare
The corporate media silence on Fukushima has been deafening even though themelted-down nuclear power plant’s seaborne radiation is now washing up on American beaches.
Ever more radioactive water continues to pour into the Pacific.
At least three extremely volatile fuel assemblies are stuck high in the air at Unit 4. Three years after the March 11, 2011, disaster, nobody knows exactly where the melted cores from Units 1, 2 and 3 might be.
Amid a dicey cleanup infiltrated by organized crime, still more massive radiation releases are a real possibility at any time.
Radioactive groundwater washing through the complex is enough of a problem that Fukushima Daiichi owner Tepco has just won approval for a highly controversial ice wall to be constructed around the crippled reactor site. No wall of this scale and type has ever been built, and this one might not be ready for two years. Widespread skepticism has erupted surrounding its potential impact on the stability of the site and on the huge amounts of energy necessary to sustain it. Critics also doubt it would effectively guard the site from flooding and worry it could cause even more damage should power fail.
Meanwhile, children nearby are dying. The rate of thyroid cancers among some 250,000 area young people is more than 40 times normal. According to health expert Joseph Mangano, more than 46 percent have precancerous nodules and cysts on their thyroids. This is “just the beginning” of a tragic epidemic, he warns.
http://ecowatch.com/2014/06/03/fukus...bal-nightmare/
the paranoid echoes are audible here. not sure it's quite the global threat just yet.The corporate media silence on Fukushima has been deafening
clearly for Japan it's a nightmare. an environmental disaster of unprecedented seriousness and unknown dimensions, is still unfolding.
http://www.newsweek.com/another-day-...kushima-229840It is hard to comprehend the number of radioactive water accidents at Fukushima since an earthquake and tsunami crippled the plant in 2011. At a point last August, the Japanese government announced that roughly 330 tons (about 80,000 gallons) of radioactive water leaked into the Pacific Ocean from the Fukushima plant every day. The same month, experts feared that a vast underground reservoir of radioactive water was perilously close to reaching the ocean. The following October, radioactive water leaked while workers transferred water between two tanks. A few days later, Tepco announced a smaller amount of radioactive water had leaked into the ocean after workers miscalculated the capacity of the tank due to it sitting on a slope. The list goes on.
The evacuation and other drastic life changes prompted by the event is also taking a toll, especially on the elderly. More people have died of stress and other related conditions than from immediate injuries in the 2011 disaster, The Japan Times reported. While the long-term medical impact of elevated radiation in the area is largely unknown, 2,000 Fukushima workers face a heightened risk of thyroid cancer.
Concern over potential harm from the disaster has recently spread to the U.S. military. Over the past year, more than 70 U.S. sailors and Marines who were deployed to Japan in 2011 to aid tsunami victims have joined a billion-dollar lawsuit against Tepco. According to the suit, they suffered serious health issues after the mission, and allege that the company did not disclose information about the level of danger associated with radiation exposure near the nuclear plant.
the media blackout is a myth, btw. a very easily checkable one: http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/fuk...-inside-n48811
any poster who claims the media won't touch a story, lies. he/she heard it directly or indirectly from the media.
the MSM blackout meme is probably the most easily defeated of frequently used tropes in this forum. it is always wrong.
Fukushima FUBAR – Still Bad, Still Getting Worse
ust because meltdowns at the Fukushima nuclear site aren’t much in the news of late, it’s not safe to assume they’re under control. They’re not. The 2011 accident continues uninterrupted, beyond control, beyond reliable measurement, beyond honest reporting in most media, and beyond any hope of being significantly mitigated for years and probably decades to come. That’s the best case. Alternatively, radiation levels are rising, especially for Tritium and Plutonium, and much of it goes right into the ocean. Either way, officials in Japan and the U.S. have responded by arbitrarily raising the officially “safe” level of radiation exposure.
Japan’s Nuclear Regulatory Authority (NRA) released an 8-page report June 11, based on what it shows was very limited sampling, taken three months (in 2011) and 32 months (in 2013) after the meltdowns. Distributed by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), the report lacks any useful detail for an exposed public, and its main conclusion is opaque on human safety:
Air dose rates in both “Road and its adjacent area” and “Vacant land lot” have decreased more rapidly than we expected considering the physical half-life of radionuclide in 32 months after the accident.
Who’ll stop the rain? Or the groundwater? Or fuel pool coolant?
Recently the Tokyo Electric Company (TEPCO), responsible for the nuclear site, has acknowledged that rain is a problem. TEPCO has thousands of storage tanks filled with radioactive groundwater collected from the site, but rain adds to the water in the tanks and becomes part of the total volume of radioactive water on site and flowing out.
TEPCO has suggested a variety of ways of putting a cover, a roof, or a tent over the tanks to keep the rain out. But TEPCO hasn’t done it yet.
The Fukushima nuclear power plants have been shut down for more than three years, but the nuclear fuel is not yet stabilized and the site leaks radioactivity constantly, but at a varying, often unknown rate. The Fukushima disaster is unprecedented in scale, complexity, and consequence.
Fukushima’s continuing release of radioactivity long since passed the scale of Chernobyl in 1986. Fukushima releases are now estimated at three times the Russian accident, but with no end in sight for Japan.
There’s no end in sight for Ukraine, either, where the Chernobyl accident may be better contained than Fukushima, but Chernobyl won’t be over till it’s over, either. Reasonably enough, Japan and Ukraine have been working together to launch satellites that will monitor their respective nuclear disasters. A Ukrainian-designed rocket carrying two Japanese-developed satellites is scheduled to launch into orbit from Russia’s Ural space station on June 26. The rocket will be carrying 33 small satellites from 17 countries.
The satellites from Ukraine and Japan are intended to maintain a continuous record of conditions at and around the two nuclear disasters. How governments use and/or share this data remains to be seen. As one Tokyo University professor involved in the project expressed concern over government accountability, “I hope that the data will help Japan and Ukraine correctly acknowledge the impact on the environment near the two plants.” [Emphasis added.]
“I’ve been involved in this Fukushima volunteer for 3 years. Blood splashes out of the skin suddenly, and quite often. This is the reality.”
A Fukushima decontamination volunteer posted that comment on Twitter. (There the translation is rougher: “Voluntary activities [scary internal radiation threat: Fukushima from the third year. This reality that one day, often happen to be suddenly spewing blood from the skin.”)
The anecdotal suffering of people affected by Fukushima and the years of inadequate official response goes largely unreported, except by a few like Mochizuki Cheshire Iori, who has maintained his Fukushima Diarysince immediately after the meltdowns. He recently reported a massive e of Cesium in Yaiti City, midway between Fukushima and Tokyo.
Fukushima Diary also posted a report of elevated radiation levels in Tokyo in February 2014. These are anecdotal reports, but there have been other reports of radiation in Tokyo.
Nuclear engineer Arnie Gundersen reported personally measuring material in Tokyo in December 2012 that was hot enough to be classified as radioactive waste in the U.S.
Japan did nothing about it. There is apparently no consistent, official monitoring of radiation in Tokyo. If there were, and the measurements were high, that might threaten the Olympics scheduled for Tokyo in 2020.
The official Japanese position, expressed by Prime Minister Shinzo Abe to the International Olympic Committee in September 2013, goes like this: “Let me assure you the situation [in Fukushima] is under control. It has never done and will never do any damage to Tokyo.”
Public policy, based on average exposures and estimated “safe” levels, is not all that concerned with personal safety, not even for Olympic athletes. Beat the averages and, officially, there’s no damage. But if you, personally, win the bad lottery and ingest a random “hot particle,” you may have a problem, about which most governments don’t much care.
“We have yet to form the ice stopper because we can’t make the temperature low enough to freeze water,” a TEPCO spokesman said.
To control the flow fresh of water into the Fukushima site, where it gets irradiated by the melted reactor cores before it flows on out to the Pacific, TEPCO’s plans (reports vary) included building a gigantic, underground ice wall to keep the fresh water out. Another reported plan was to build a gigantic, underground ice wall to keep the radioactive water in. A third plan was to build a gigantic, underground ice wall all the way around the contaminated site, keeping the outside water out (except rain) and the inside water in.
TEPCO tried and failed to freeze about 11,000 tons of radioactive water (about 2.6 million gallons) in place in trenches underneath two of the destroyed reactor buildings.
TEPCO also continuously adds to the radioactive water build-up with the water it must pump into the site to keep the melted reactor cores and fuel pools cool enough that they don’t go critical again and spew more radiation.
So far the ice wall plans, which would take a decade or more to complete if all went well, are already behind schedule and not really working out. On June 18, Al Jazeera summed it up in a story under the headline: “FUKUSHIMA ‘ICE WALL’ LOOKING MORE LIKE A DIRT SLURPEE.”
The next day, TEPCO issued a news release saying the earlier media reports, also based on a TEPCO news release, were wrong. TEPCO said the media had confused two different projects, both being carried out by Kajima Corp.: (1) the effort to freeze the ground around Fukushima and (2) the failed attempt to freeze water under only part of Fukushima.
The nuclear-industrial complex is a global power
In recent years, we’ve heard predictions of a global “nuclear renaissance,” which has yet to materialize despite heavy government subsidy of nuclear power in the U.S. and elsewhere. In 2002, by official count, the world had 444 “operating nuclear reactors,” now that number is less than 400. And even that total, a decline of 10%, is an inflated mirage created by the IAEA, which counts Japan’s 48 reactors as “in operation,” even though they are all shut down or inoperable, thanks to the Fukushima meltdowns.
Another nuclear industry promotional organization, the World Nuclear Association, continues to promise “The Nuclear Renaissance,” arguing that:
With 70 reactors being built around the world today, another 160 or more planned to come online during the next 10 years, and hundreds more further back in the pipeline, the global nuclear industry is clearly going forward strongly. Negative responses to the Fukushima accident, notably in Europe, do not change this overall picture. Countries with established programmes are seeking to replace old reactors as well as expand capacity…. Most (over 80%) of the expansion in this century is likely to be in countries already using nuclear power.
American, Japanese, and other governments around the world have long been in thrall to the nuclear industry. Currently the commercial nuclear industry is dominated by three Western-Japanese conglomerates: the French Areva with Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, and two American companies, General Electric and Westinghouse, with Hitachi and Toshiba, respectively.
The human cost of Fukushima doesn’t come out of their bottom lines, and most governments will also shirk paying for it as much as possible.
TEPCO sends mixed message about how safe Fukushima is
A Fukushima report from VICE (published May 26) notes that the Japanese government continues to try to keep information secret as much as it can. A former Japanese legislator says his government tried to conceal measurements of radioactive Cesium at Fukushima that were 168 times higher than the level at Hiroshima after the 1945 A-bomb attack. The government keeps telling the public that everything is OK.
The 13-minute video covers some of the more familiar Fukushima horrors:
radiation poisoning and increasing thyroid cancers;
the government allowing the sale of highly radioactive food;
inadequate official measurement of Fukushima radiation levels;
and the lethal effect of feeding radioactive leaves from Fukushima plants to healthy butterflies.
There is a scene of TEPCO officials refusing to talk on camera beyond a short, bland reassurance that everything is OK. There is a TEPCO worker (his iden y concealed) who says the equipment at Fukushima is deteriorating and the cooling systems might fail. And there is a dissonant sequence showing a government official wearing no protective clothing leading the camera crew (in protective clothing) inside the Fukushima site – until TEPCO workers (in protective clothing) chase them all away because it’s too dangerous.
When U.S. Ambassador Caroline Kennedy visited the Fukushima ruins, she was unidentifiable under her protective clothing, as was her son with her. Ambassador Kennedy reportedly said that the U.S. would help “in any way that it can,” which could mean no way.
In June, the governor of Fukushima Prefecture was asking the Tokyo Olympics committee to have the 2020 Olympics torch relay run along a road only 2 kilometers from the Fukushima meltdowns that caused more than 100,000 people to be evacuated, most of whom cannot return.
The governor is also lobbying for an Olympics training camp 20 km from the meltdowns, in buildings that presently house workers hired by TEPCO to carry out the decommissioning and decontamination that even TEPCO expects to take decades.
Meanwhile there are some things that don’t change:
the Fukushima cores are still melting down,
earthquakes still happen in the neighborhood (most recently June 16), and
President Obama is still pushing to build more nukes.
http://readersupportednews.org/opini...-getting-worse
going to build an ice wall for containment
www.coolingpost.com/world-news/fukushima-ice-wall-gets-go-ahead/
"So far the ice wall plans, which would take a decade or more to complete if all went well, are already behind schedule and not really working out. On June 18, Al Jazeera summed it up in a story under the headline: “FUKUSHIMA ‘ICE WALL’ LOOKING MORE LIKE A DIRT SLURPEE.”"
Don't eat fish bones...
Shark cartilage...
Shut California’s Fukushima: Diablo Must Go
The catastrophe at Fukushima was not an accident. It’s unfolding again in California.
The next west coast quake could easily shake the two reactors at Diablo Canyon to rubble.
They are riddled with defects, can’t withstand potential seismic shocks from five major nearby fault lines, violate state water quality laws and are vulnerable to tsunamis and fire.
Diablo’s owner, Pacific Gas & Electric (PG&E), is in deep legal and financial crisis.
The California Public Utilities Commission (CPUC) has just proposed that PG&E be fined $1.4 billion for a 2010 gas explosion and fire that killed eight people and obliterated a neighborhood in San Bruno.
The federal government has announced 28 indictments, meaning the CPUC fine may just be the tip of a very expensive iceberg for PG&E.
The San Bruno disaster was caused by pipeline defects about which PG&E had been warned for years, but failed to correct.
The fines cover 3,798 separate violations of laws and regulations, both state and federal. PG&E was previously fined $38 million for a 2008 pipeline explosion in Rancho Cordova.
Similar defects remain uncorrected at Diablo Canyon, whose radioactive cloud could span the continental U.S. in four days. Mass citizen action recently shut two coastal reactors at San Onofre. It must do the same at Diablo before the next quake hits.
Ironically, as America’s Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) allows Diablo to operate, all 54 reactors in Japan remain shut. Its Nuclear Regulatory Authority has just ordered the Tsurugareactor to be scrapped because of its vulnerability to earthquakes. Two more elderly reactors at Mihama may also be terminated before year’s end.
At Fukushima, Tokyo Electric Power now admits that far more radiation is spewing into the Pacific than previously admitted. The thyroid cancer death rate among children in the area is 40 times normal. So is the still-rising childhood thyroid abnormality rate, a terrifying re-run of downwind Chernobyl.
http://ecowatch.com/2014/09/06/calif...iablo-nuclear/
And yet CNN feels like running a couple hours of Ray Rice news and analysis. Smh
Radioactive Boars On The Loose In Germany
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=129008757
Did countries, people downwind of Chernobyl sue USSR for damages?
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