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    Undrafted:

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    i think our primary target was Bruno Caboclo and the Raptors stole him for us... Kyle Anderson is a high risk high reward pick and although he is a mature player because he is such a unique player it seems he still need a year or two to adjust to do NBA game... i still prefer we have picked Early, seems he is more ready and better fit to contribute right away, he took by himself a mid major school almost to win an NCAA le!
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    Undrafted guys:
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    i want Spurs to sign Sim Bhullar to Summer league and test him...

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    Personally give me Patric Young, and call that the draft. I was okay with Anderson and the draft and stash in the second round. I won't doubt Buford and Pops. I don't love Anderson, but he does have some good passing ability.

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    Initial impressions:

    The more I watch the less I like, unfortunately. A few days ago I wrote the reason I liked McDaniels was that he had the necessary athleticism to be in the NBA, and could be coached up from his flaws. I didn't want someone who had physical flaws like cement shoes. Stuff like that is just ... Hard to overcome.

    Athleticism matters. It's nice and wonderful to dream that all a player needs is skill, but this is the best league in the world. If skills could overcome all, Jared Jordan would have gone from second rounder to a long NBA career. And he's not the only one.

    I get a bad feeling watching his tape, even his good footage I have a hard time picturing succeeding. He looks like a good candidate for a decent career in Europe.

    And I don't see the comparisons to Diaw or Horry. Those guys weren't slow. At all. , Horry on the rockets was a great athlete. They only sometimes played slow because of laziness or conditioning or laizez faire or whatever. But they were still nimble, still agile. Still capable of making great athletic plays on defense. And offense. Horry delivering that slam near the end of game 5 in 05 was an incredible athletic play.

    Maybe he can get in better shape, but he even shoots glacially.

    I hope my impressions are wrong. They are brief impressions after all. I do see his passing skill and vision, I see his length, I see his rebounding. I'm not being irrational. I was in the moment when Hill was drafted, but once I researched him and what he did, I was convinced he had the tools to succeed and made a thread about it with video links.

    Here's to hoping that he has a long, successful career.

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    Long
    High BB IQ
    Excellent passer
    Good defensive rebounder
    Shoots the 3 well

    Solid pick, especially at #30.

    Welcome aboard, Kyle!

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    I thought I'd heard he was coming. Jean-Charles isn't surprising, but Bertans definitely is.
    There was a possibility. I believe his contract buyout is low enough this year the Spurs could bring him over. I guess they are weighing their options at this point. If Bertans isn't coming over, it probably means the Spurs are keeping Daye and see what they got after developing him for another year.

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    If the kid has a good work ethic Spurs will mold him into a serviceable piece. I suspect they will get him in the gym immediately with Chip and start working on his shot (not being able to shoot off the bounce is a real liability in the Spurs system) and will get him on a workout regimen to get him in better shape. Send him home for the summer and see if he has what it takes to follow through.
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    Watched video interview with RC on Spurs web. I'm very happy with the pick after listening.

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    SA fans monkeyballer obsession continues
    he can't run and jump he sucks

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    And I don't see the comparisons to Diaw or Horry. Those guys weren't slow. At all. , Horry on the rockets was a great athlete. They only sometimes played slow because of laziness or conditioning or laizez faire or whatever. But they were still nimble, still agile. Still capable of making great athletic plays on defense. And offense. Horry delivering that slam near the end of game 5 in 05 was an incredible athletic play.
    I'm not sure being slow is such a big issue on offense, especially in the Spurs system. And defensively he has active hands (and a long wingspan).

    On quite a few passes I had the impression to see Diaw, especially reach-around type of passes.

    The issue is more on defense. There's no way he can defend any NBA wing given how slowly he moves his feet. And he doesn't have the size and bulk to defend bigs. This is going to be complicated.

    Maybe he can get in better shape, but he even shoots glacially.
    48% isn't too glacial. And he has good arc and a high release point, so that's that.

    All in all I'm not worried about anything except his ability to defend at the NBA level. That's no big deal on most of the teams, but it's critical to the Spurs...

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    Undrafted guys:
    Jahii Carson
    Melvin Ejim
    Patric Young
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    James McAdoo
    Deonte Burton
    CJ Fair
    Aaron Craft,
    LaQuinton Ross
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    Billy Baron
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    I remember McAdoo being projected as a top 5 pick a couple years ago.

    Birch was supposed to be late lottery also.

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    Initial impressions:

    The more I watch the less I like, unfortunately. A few days ago I wrote the reason I liked McDaniels was that he had the necessary athleticism to be in the NBA, and could be coached up from his flaws. I didn't want someone who had physical flaws like cement shoes. Stuff like that is just ... Hard to overcome.

    Athleticism matters. It's nice and wonderful to dream that all a player needs is skill, but this is the best league in the world. If skills could overcome all, Jared Jordan would have gone from second rounder to a long NBA career. And he's not the only one.

    I get a bad feeling watching his tape, even his good footage I have a hard time picturing succeeding. He looks like a good candidate for a decent career in Europe.

    And I don't see the comparisons to Diaw or Horry. Those guys weren't slow. At all. , Horry on the rockets was a great athlete. They only sometimes played slow because of laziness or conditioning or laizez faire or whatever. But they were still nimble, still agile. Still capable of making great athletic plays on defense. And offense. Horry delivering that slam near the end of game 5 in 05 was an incredible athletic play.

    Maybe he can get in better shape, but he even shoots glacially.

    I hope my impressions are wrong. They are brief impressions after all. I do see his passing skill and vision, I see his length, I see his rebounding. I'm not being irrational. I was in the moment when Hill was drafted, but once I researched him and what he did, I was convinced he had the tools to succeed and made a thread about it with video links.

    Here's to hoping that he has a long, successful career.
    Yeah, I watched tons of Kyle Anderson being I'm a Bruin fan, and I always wondered how the he'd ever make the NBA with his complete lack of athleticism. But I have a hard time seeing him not make it if RC is excited enough to draft him in the first and guarantee a 2 year deal. I mean there is no GM in the history of the league with RC's track record in the draft.

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    I think many of the folks here are getting the wrong comparisons of Kyle Anderson. Anderson has Boris Diaw like, passing skills for a big. He also has high IQ like Robert Horry for a big. But primarily he has always played as a PG who defends on the wing completely unlike Diaw or Horry (atleast in the NBA).

    In that sense, Anderson is much closer to someone like Greivis Vasquez or Shaun Livingston. Except he seems to have better talent than these two and can play PF if he develops skills over time to defend the post, something he has never had the opportunity to, in his limited career as a student-athlete.

    Point is, he was the best talent available at 30, intriguing and all, and the Spurs did the right thing. His style of play, based on high IQ, passing, angles, combining with other players, is precisely what fits the Spurs. He has deficiencies (so did Patty Mills) and the Spurs are best at maximising potential based both on their on-court system (motion offense based on passing and IQ) and their off-court system (high emphasis on culture, player development and in house coaching).

    There's hardly anything to complain. The Spurs' staff have their work cut out, as they always have, in trying to develop Anderson to maximise his potential and fit a role in a contending team. They did it to a T with Kawhi Leonard. They have done it with Patty Mills and Marco Belinelli (to an extent). Even Tiago Splitter has refined his game with the Spurs despite many prior flaws. What is not to expect from a talent like Anderson?

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    Not impressed... he does look like he's moving in slow motion. No elevation on the jumper and very late release. His offensive game will not translate well to the NBA. But Leonard had a terrible jumper too... maybe Chip can work another miracle. I see him more as a defensive player that can make those spot up 3's. Might eventually develop into a backup for Leonard.


    He is 2002 Steve Smith on D. His value is almost all in his passing.

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    All in all I'm not worried about anything except his ability to defend at the NBA level. That's no big deal on most of the teams, but it's critical to the Spurs...
    That is probably the only flag at this point. But really, besides Blair and Neal, there really hasn't been a player that didn't improve his overall defense since joining the Spurs.

    This kid reminds me of Hedo more than anything (probably a better passer). Hedo was slow as well but he used his body effectively to shield defenders from the ball. Hedo used his length to get by defenders as well despite not having speed.

    Hedo was a horrible defender in SAC, but after a year with the Spurs, he actually became a decent defender.

    I don't think Anderson will ever be even a good defender. I think his limit is just a decent defender like Hedo. But if he can match the Magic's Hedo offensive game (which seems very plausible), he will be a steal.

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    There was a possibility. I believe his contract buyout is low enough this year the Spurs could bring him over. I guess they are weighing their options at this point. If Bertans isn't coming over, it probably means the Spurs are keeping Daye and see what they got after developing him for another year.
    I was actually talking just about Summer League. Obviously him signing an actual contract and joining the 15 is up in the air at the moment.

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    They are both coming off of season-ending blown ACLs. Having missed a lot of development and not having played much in the last year, extremely little since returning from surgery. I guess they could get bought out, but not surprising if they don't come given the injury history.
    ...talking about Summer League.

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    Diaw is crazy athletic.
    http://deadspin.com/heres-a-funny-an...tic-1591135909

    For the non-believers.

    Diaw is such a pimp.

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    SA fans monkeyballer obsession continues
    he can't run and jump he sucks
    I dont think that's the take at all... To me, monkeyballer is Westbrook, Oladipo{sp)... guys who just run around out of control. I havent seen anyone here post that they want an athletic player to run out of control. From my standpoint, we are going to need someone athletic or crafty to beat the Thunder, Portland, in the next few years. What happens when we get a court full of tiago's and bonners who are worthless against the athletic teams? We just paid 10 million for Tiago to be nothing more than a stop-gap during games.

    We took #30 and got a good passer. ok, kid fits the bill character wise. HOWEVER, he's not athletic enough to back someone into the post and get an easy 2 like boris. I dont see him dribbling into the lane and making passes like he did in college because players are bigger, longer, faster, than what he was/is used to. Again, I hope Im wrong and he turns out better than Kawhi, that would be fabulous, because he seems like a good, honest, articulate young man.

    I think we give a lot of credit to diaw for being crafty, but there are times when we are stalling and he does some ugly stuff under the basket that is not crafty, is not pretty, and is forgotten about that gives us 2 points. I dont see this kid doing that.

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    I dont think that's the take at all... To me, monkeyballer is Westbrook, Oladipo{sp)... guys who just run around out of control. I havent seen anyone here post that they want an athletic player to run out of control. From my standpoint, we are going to need someone athletic or crafty to beat the Thunder, Portland, in the next few years. What happens when we get a court full of tiago's and bonners who are worthless against the athletic teams? We just paid 10 million for Tiago to be nothing more than a stop-gap during games.

    We took #30 and got a good passer. ok, kid fits the bill character wise. HOWEVER, he's not athletic enough to back someone into the post and get an easy 2 like boris. I dont see him dribbling into the lane and making passes like he did in college because players are bigger, longer, faster, than what he was/is used to. Again, I hope Im wrong and he turns out better than Kawhi, that would be fabulous, because he seems like a good, honest, articulate young man.

    I think we give a lot of credit to diaw for being crafty, but there are times when we are stalling and he does some ugly stuff under the basket that is not crafty, is not pretty, and is forgotten about that gives us 2 points. I dont see this kid doing that.
    Read this: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...spurs-at-no-30

    Gordon might be regarded as the best defender in the 2014 draft, but he had no answer for Bruin sop re Kyle Anderson. The point guard/forward/whatever finished at the rim on his signature slow-motion drives. He hit three-pointers over hard closeouts. He snatched rebounds over more explosive athletes and picked out open shooters across the court with pinpoint passes. When it was over, Anderson had 21 points, 15 rebounds, five assists and a fistful of nylon from cutting down the nets.

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    We just paid 10 million for Tiago to be nothing more than a stop-gap during games.rol.
    So shutting down Dirk and Aldridge is just stop-gap duty. Tiago is top 3 one-on-one defender in the post and his D Eff numbers prove just that. He is just not effective against small ball teams when BOTH he and Duncan are on the court at the same time. But he does great when it just him, looking at his +/- against the Heat proves just that.

    Please stop trying to sound intelligent b/c you are making Spurs fan look bad.

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    So shutting down Dirk and Aldridge is just stop-gap duty. Tiago is top 3 one-on-one defender in the post and his D Eff numbers prove just that. He is just not effective against small ball teams when BOTH he and Duncan are on the court at the same time. But he does great when it just him, looking at his +/- against the Heat proves just that.

    Please stop trying to sound intelligent b/c you are making Spurs fan look bad.
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