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    No doubt.

    Defense isn't all about speed and athleticism, though. Splitter is on of the BEST paint defenders in the NBA. He doesn't block shots and can barely jump over a phone book, but he understands positioning and verticality.
    I understand that defense isn't all about speed and athleticism-- especially for big men who don't have to make long point A to point B rotations or keep up with the fastest guys in the league on every possession (Splitter doesn't have to defend guards).

    However, I'm more concerned about lateral quickness and foot-speed more so than straight line speed/jumping ability. Those two, along with being smart ( no dumb fouls; smart rotations, disciplined close outs), are important attributes to have in order to be a decent perimeter defender. Anderson lacks both. IMO
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    Attributes needed to defend adequately in the interior are different than the attributes needed to defend on the perimeter.

    Not sure why people are comparing Duncan and Westbrooks defense. Both of their responsibilities are entirely different on the defensive end.

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    I understand that defense isn't all about speed and athleticism-- especially for big men who don't have to make long point A to point B rotations or keep up with the fastest guys in the league on every possession (Splitter doesn't have to defend guards).

    However, i'm more concerned about lateral quickness and foots-peed more so than straight line speed/jumping ability. Those two are important attributes to have in order to be a decent perimeter defender. Anderson lacks both. IMO
    agreed, anderson is never gonna be a good-great defender

    he'll always be poor-below average defender due to his lack of lateral quickness and it's not gonna get him consistent playing time with the spurs, thats for sure

    obviously the guy is talented offensively and is a playmaker but he has be at least average defensively to stay on the floor

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    In 35 minutes against Duke and occasionaly matched up against the #2 pick Jabari Parker and Rodney Hood: 15 pts (7/13), 10 rbs, 7asts, 5 stls, 6 to

    http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/...2-19-duke.html

    Kid is gonna fine in the NBA and well be a steal.

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    In 35 minutes against Duke and occasionaly matched up against the #2 pick Jabari Parker and Rodney Hood: 15 pts (7/13), 10 rbs, 7asts, 5 stls, 6 to

    http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/...2-19-duke.html

    Kid is gonna fine in the NBA and well be a steal.
    I don't think anyone is questioning his offensive ability. Kid could play on that end of the floor in college. There's no denying that.

    Will it efficiently translate to the NBA? Hopefully and possibly. Only time will tell. Low risk, high reward for Spurs with the 30th pick. Hopefully Spurs end up with a steal with this kid.
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    Attributes needed to defend adequately in the interior are different than the attributes needed to defend on the perimeter.

    Not sure why people are comparing Duncan and Westbrooks defense. Both of their responsibilities are entirely different on the defensive end.
    Not comparing their D, comparing their IQs. IQ goes a long way over extreme athleticism. Tell me how many defenders like Bruce or Cooper that come along that have both on the wing as a defender.

    My ceiling on Anderson's Defense and Offense is Hedo. If he turns out to be the Hedo that helped lead the Magic to the Finals, this will be a steal for the Spurs.

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    Paydirt! http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...spurs-at-no-30 Spurs just drafted Magic Johnson!

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    I know they play different positions, but kind of reminds me of Andre Miller, deliberate, slow but smart, effective, old school game.

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    People say Boris Diaw, but to me he fits the mold of a Hedo Turkoglu. Which is always a perfect fit in the Spurs system. I don't think he's the below average shooter he's made out to be and when the Spurs staff get a hold of him, his 3 point shot will probably get a lot better.

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    People say Boris Diaw, but to me he fits the mold of a Hedo Turkoglu. Which is always a perfect fit in the Spurs system. I don't think he's the below average shooter he's made out to be and when the Spurs staff get a hold of him, his 3 point shot will probably get a lot better.
    As long as his at ude is better (no bagging games as "injured" and hanging out at gentleman's establishments) and stays in better shape.

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    All the sportscasters today are saying the biggest steal of the draft was Kyle Anderson by the Spurs.

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    This really was a steal. At #30 you shouldn't be getting a guy who could potentially lead your second unit without a hitch. Of course there's Ginobili there already, but now you have another point of attack.

    I like the Diaw comparisons, but he's more of a perimeter guy than Diaw, who loves to post up. Defense obviously will be a problem needing a solution, but he's like a Jared Dudley guy who just knows where to be. Would you rather have a super-athletic guy three steps off from his mark or a super-smart guy who's already there?

    He'll be a big matchup problem if he pans out. Unlike Diaw, who runs an offense through the post, Anderson runs it from up top. If he can get to guarding PFs, he'd be pulling them outside constantly.

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    I really think he's more of a Paul Pierce kind of player, very deliberate with what he's doing but with extremely better passing and rebounding. With him no movement is wasted, he's using angles and his length to get where he needs to go on offense and defense. He is not super quick but he has good footwork and length to play defense at an average to above average clip and will improve, his length also helps with his ability to steal the ball. His release is super high but he doesn't jump that high, kinda like Pierce, angled shooting but we're not looking for a shooter and he's competent enough to hit shots when the ball swings back to him. Chip will improve his shot, maybe improve his mechanics to speed up his shot.

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    Primary creator on the bench, will defend wings. Allows Mills/Joseph + possibly Denmon to defend PGs and not have to be creators (not their strengths).
    Will struggle to defend initially (like basically all rookies) but will rebound really well. Conditioning/athleticism is an issue, should improve over time- Fat is potential in disguise so should get better defensively as he trains better (Jordan Adams was also tubby, UCLA might just not be great at getting athletes in optimal condition) and ages. Has length to make up for lack of athleticism against most backup SFs(I'd guess this is the position he defends). Not a huge issue as we have a decent SF now and in the future to defend long wings/4s (Kawhi, Livio) and Green can cover well.

    Unlikely to play a ton as a rookie. Spurs will continue to rest Manu and Mills/Beli/Slowmo will play a bit as bench perimeter trio.
    Except, you know, he can't create at the NBA level.

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    Except, you know, he can't create at the NBA level.
    And you know this how? The only sample we see is from his college days, and he absolutely can there, sometimes against opposing players that were drafted much higher than him (see Jabari Parker, Aaron Gordon). Let's at least see what he can do in the summer league first.
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    He doesn't worst 30th pick ever. No upside.

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    I just don't see him playing too much

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    And you know this how? The only sample we see is from his college days, and he absolutely can there, sometimes against opposing players that were drafted much higher than him (see Jabari Parker, Aaron Gordon). Let's at least see what he can do in the summer league first.
    Dude dribbles slower than Kawhi Leonard and Kawhi can't create. What he does have is good passing instincts. I'm confident that he could perform an over-the-top high low to Duncan or Splitter. He showed that he's not afraid to make tight passes to back door cutters either, but he flat out cannot dribble and he has no post game. He's like the Danny Green of 4s.

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    Dude dribbles slower than Kawhi Leonard and Kawhi can't create. What he does have is good passing instincts. I'm confident that he could perform an over-the-top high low to Duncan or Splitter. He showed that he's not afraid to make tight passes to back door cutters either, but he flat out cannot dribble and he has no post game. He's like the Danny Green of 4s.
    What? If Green had Anderson's ball skills, he'd be a top-five two-guard, and if Kyle had Green's quickness and defensive skills, he'd have been a top-five pick.

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    What? If Green had Anderson's ball skills, he'd be a top-five two-guard, and if Kyle had Green's quickness and defensive skills, he'd have been a top-five pick.
    Yeah you're highly over-estimating Anderson's ball skills. He's going to be a spot up shooter in his first year with the Spurs during garbage time and for good reason. He doesn't bring anything else to the table (yet).

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    That's assuming he can even get his shot off against NBA talent. Dude shoots slower than molasses

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    Yeah you're highly over-estimating Anderson's ball skills. He's going to be a spot up shooter in his first year with the Spurs during garbage time and for good reason. He doesn't bring anything else to the table (yet).
    You're underestimating his skills. He's not a guard. He dribbles well for a combo-forward, and he can get better at it. He's also a fantastic rebounder. He's arguably the third-best on the team right now.

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    lol everyone became an Anderson expert the second he was drafted.

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    Yeah you're highly over-estimating Anderson's ball skills. He's going to be a spot up shooter in his first year with the Spurs during garbage time and for good reason. He doesn't bring anything else to the table (yet).
    If Spurs were looking for a spot up shooter, they wouldn't have drafted Anderson. That got Kyle because he fits the system, and might be a player who can contribute about 10 minutes a night during the regular season as a Boris Diaw-lite player coming in off the bench.

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    That's assuming he can even get his shot off against NBA talent. Dude shoots slower than molasses
    I don't understand the relevance of pointing out his most obvious weakness that everyone is aware of. The Spurs knew he was slow. His nickname is Slowmo. That is priced into the purchase at 30. The Spurs feel that this attribute was too heavily weighted by other teams. You don't find diamonds in the rough unless they're rough.

    Laughing at RC if KA doesn't pan out? Sure. But, at this point, you're premature.

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